accadacca 0 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 how many to reach the play offs i.e. 6th ? Sunderland got 105 points a few years back which was only beaten by Reading with 107 about 2 years ago ? Can we beat that ? Probably not, but could be fairly close. 138 points in total up for grabs with only 2 lost so far with 1/9th of the season gone. I can see no more than 6 teams getting points from us up here - lets say 2 losses and 4 draws = 55 points. Away from home I can see a minimum of 10 wins = 30 points, plus at least 6 draws. 36 + 55 = 91 and the title won. Before I am accused of being delusional, name me teams who will points at SJP and then name who we won't beat away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 If we don't win at Cardiff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid 0 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 More likely to lose away than home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Should be looking at this game by game i reckon, Not how many points you think we will get. This isn't as easy as the CCC was the last few years. Boro, West Brom, Cardiff all pushing for the top spots and a few other teams looking good so far. You can't judge how a league will go til about Xmas when it starts to take shape, Look at this time last season in the premiership or even the CCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsweeney 0 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 If we don't win at Cardiff... It's true though. If we don't win, all the doomsayers will come out. Mind you, I don't think we will at Cardiff. Indeed, I'll be very happy with a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Should be looking at this game by game i reckon, Not how many points you think we will get. This isn't as easy as the CCC was the last few years. Boro, West Brom, Cardiff all pushing for the top spots and a few other teams looking good so far. You can't judge how a league will go til about Xmas when it starts to take shape, Look at this time last season in the premiership or even the CCC. Exactly. These targets are a load of bollocks. Reading won the league with 106 points, West Brom won it with 81. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flair 0 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 well if there are 46games, then our target should be 92points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 well if there are 46games, then our target should be 92points. There's definitely 46 games anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Before I am accused of being delusional, name me teams who will points at SJP and then name who we won't beat away from home. It's got fuck all do to with who we should or shouldn't beat, with our strongest first eleven we should beat most, if not all teams in the Championship. The problem is keeping that first eleven fit and uninjured for the entire season you fucking flid. We don't have the cover so unless we have miraculously indestructible players we'll have to field a weakened team at some point when other teams will be more likely to beat us. Are you some sort of fucking vegetable?! Jesus Christ on a bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid 0 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Before I am accused of being delusional, name me teams who will points at SJP and then name who we won't beat away from home. 46? Jihad in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 how many to reach the play offs i.e. 6th ? Sunderland got 105 points a few years back which was only beaten by Reading with 107 about 2 years ago ? Can we beat that ? Probably not, but could be fairly close. 138 points in total up for grabs with only 2 lost so far with 1/9th of the season gone. I can see no more than 6 teams getting points from us up here - lets say 2 losses and 4 draws = 55 points. Away from home I can see a minimum of 10 wins = 30 points, plus at least 6 draws. 36 + 55 = 91 and the title won. Before I am accused of being delusional, name me teams who will points at SJP and then name who we won't beat away from home. Your still allowed to make threads????!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I don't think we'll beat West Brom away from home this season. Do I get a prize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Since the formation of the Premiership, the top two teams in Championship each season have achieved the following number of points: 1992/93 : 96 / 88 1993/94 : 90 / 83 1994/95 : 82 / 79 1995/96 : 83 / 79 1996/97 : 98 / 80 1997/98 : 94 / 91 1998/99 : 105 / 87 1999/00 : 91 / 89 2000/01 : 101 / 91 2001/02 : 99 / 89 2002/03 : 98 / 92 2003/04 : 94 / 86 2004/05 : 94 / 87 2005/06 : 106 / 90 2006/07 : 88 / 86 2007/08 : 81 / 79 2008/09 : 90 / 83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 That's quite a range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 And the team in 6th place has achieved: 1992/93 : 76 1993/94 : 71 1994/95 : 72 1995/96 : 71 1996/97 : 71 1997/98 : 74 1998/99 : 76 1999/00 : 76 2000/01 : 74 2001/02 : 75 2002/03 : 74 2003/04 : 73 2004/05 : 73 2005/06 : 75 2006/07 : 75 2007/08 : 70 2008/09 : 74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Since the formation of the Premiership, the top two teams in Championship each season have achieved the following number of points: 1992/93 : 96 / 88 1993/94 : 90 / 83 1994/95 : 82 / 79 1995/96 : 83 / 79 1996/97 : 98 / 80 1997/98 : 94 / 91 1998/99 : 105 / 87 1999/00 : 91 / 89 2000/01 : 101 / 91 2001/02 : 99 / 89 2002/03 : 98 / 92 2003/04 : 94 / 86 2004/05 : 94 / 87 2005/06 : 106 / 90 2006/07 : 88 / 86 2007/08 : 81 / 79 2008/09 : 90 / 83 Personally, I don't think these statistics mean a thing, just like the history of results against a particular team mean nowt on the day of the next match. I'm wondering what a few more victories will do for us. Will we get a fear factor surrounding us (a bit like Man U have), and other teams just trying not to be beaten rather than taking us on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flair 0 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Well going by those stats, 92 points which I have said would get us promoted either in 1st or 2nd place if that trend were to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22149 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 looks like 85-90 should be enough to secure a top 2 finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 That's quite a range. Aga-esque. Thats retaliation for your 'baby walker' joke yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman02uk 0 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I don't think we'll beat West Brom away from home this season. Do I get a prize? Blackpool will do us at their place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Before I am accused of being delusional, name me teams who will points at SJP and then name who we won't beat away from home. You are being delusional silly sod. Until the league has progessed further there can be no idea of what stengths the other teams have. You can't go on last seasons performences as in all probability they have been more active than we have during the transfer window, and we are wafer thin in some areas and injuries could wreak havoc for us as we are experiencing now to some degree. Cardiff will be a real test for us and you just know Chopra will be out to sink us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Can't see us losing another game. [/shackalackaboomboom] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 First game we lose, spaccadacca is going to get absolute pelters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4134 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 All those players who so have surprised us with their commitment, have actually been playing for a move and will now revert to type. Expect a return to the gutless inept performances we were so used to last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackandwhiteboy 0 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Before I am accused of being delusional, name me teams who will points at SJP and then name who we won't beat away from home. Problem is, this league is an unkown quantity for us so potentially any team could beat us anywhere. Out of the games we've played so far, the only team likely to be challenging for automatic promotion is West Brom and we only managed a draw against them. Plus, injuries, confidence and form all play a big part. With the players we had last season we should not have got relegated but we did. It's not simply a case of looking at our players v another sides players. Cardiff will give us a good idea of where we're at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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