The Fish 10663 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 You used to be able to get roughly sensible player ratings from most of the papers when we were in the Premiership, but I can't find any rating thing for the Championship... well not one that's based on anything other than the fervent frothing of Sky fans. any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 You used to be able to get roughly sensible player ratings from most of the papers when we were in the Premiership, but I can't find any rating thing for the Championship... well not one that's based on anything other than the fervent frothing of Sky fans. any suggestions? You sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10663 Posted August 18, 2009 Author Share Posted August 18, 2009 Closer to reality than the Sky.com ratings and that's fer damned sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Closer to reality than the Sky.com ratings and that's fer damned sure. Not sure how you can say that when they differ so widely from paper to paper. Oliver's were the best though. 8s and 9s if you won 5s and 6s if you lost. I think it might have been Wullie who pointed out that one season he gave Speed at least a 7 and usually an 8 or 9, i.e. world player of the year form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Speed was good, just not that good.... Can't beleive anyone would take anything Alan Oliver had to say at anything like face value.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Speed was good, just not that good.... Can't beleive anyone would take anything Alan Oliver had to say at anything like face value.... With a face like that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10663 Posted August 18, 2009 Author Share Posted August 18, 2009 I guess I agreed with the ratings in the broadsheets and so found them reasonable. It's for a spreadsheet I cooked up, to try and chart our best performers. That's why I asked on here after the Reading game why there hadn't been the normal player rating part of the match thread. I figured I could get an approximation from here, but it was not to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I guess I agreed with the ratings in the broadsheets and so found them reasonable. It's for a spreadsheet I cooked up, to try and chart our best performers. That's why I asked on here after the Reading game why there hadn't been the normal player rating part of the match thread. I figured I could get an approximation from here, but it was not to be. I'm not even sure half the people who write about us even see the full match all the time. I don't know why you'd want to compile the thoughts of someone else using a system as abitrary as marks out of ten to see who's had the best season. Sorry, that wasn't much help, was it? The Journal mebbies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6452 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Closer to reality than the Sky.com ratings and that's fer damned sure. Not sure how you can say that when they differ so widely from paper to paper. Oliver's were the best though. 8s and 9s if you won 5s and 6s if you lost. I think it might have been Wullie who pointed out that one season he gave Speed at least a 7 and usually an 8 or 9, i.e. world player of the year form. That is quite common. You tend to remember the good things players do when we win and the bad things players do when we lose. Regardless (generally) of performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10663 Posted August 18, 2009 Author Share Posted August 18, 2009 Does the Journal not subscribe to Alan Olivers school of rating? Of course there's no way to get an flawless rating, but I was hoping for something close to reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Closer to reality than the Sky.com ratings and that's fer damned sure. Not sure how you can say that when they differ so widely from paper to paper. Oliver's were the best though. 8s and 9s if you won 5s and 6s if you lost. I think it might have been Wullie who pointed out that one season he gave Speed at least a 7 and usually an 8 or 9, i.e. world player of the year form. That is quite common. You tend to remember the good things players do when we win and the bad things players do when we lose. Regardless (generally) of performances. Oliver's were ridiculous though. It's a bit more tempered elsewhere normally. You don't often see virtually the whole team getting 8s and 9s from a more neutral reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Didn't Anal give players who wouldn't talk to him(Robert, Butt, Carr) poor ratings, and give his pals(Speed) good one's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 He certainly had a hate campaign going on with Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10663 Posted August 18, 2009 Author Share Posted August 18, 2009 He certainly had a hate campaign going on with Robert. I can think of a few other that were guilty of that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 He was occasionally spot on about him though tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Did Robert accost him in his underpants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Funnily enough I was just thinking about that. Not even sure if he got on in that game as he had well and truly fallen out with Souness by then. Those duds were minging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10663 Posted August 18, 2009 Author Share Posted August 18, 2009 Funnily enough I was just thinking about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Souness always got glowing reports from Oliver as Souey knoew how to play the game and with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Souness always got glowing reports from Oliver as Souey knoew how to play the game and with him. Until they fell out that is. Also, Oliver and Roeder were proper bum chums iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I think I remember Souness speaking about it a great deal when he finished up. Always harping on about keeping the local press on your side or else they'll hound you out. Was it KK or Sam who didn't give Oliver any time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13760 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Souness always got glowing reports from Oliver as Souey knoew how to play the game and with him. Until they fell out that is. Also, Oliver and Roeder were proper bum chums iirc. I think they were. I certainly can't remember anything too critical of Roeder written by Oliver. Some might say Oliver's ratings were...wide of the mark :icon_lol: :icon_lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Souness always got glowing reports from Oliver as Souey knoew how to play the game and with him. Until they fell out that is. Also, Oliver and Roeder were proper bum chums iirc. I think they were. I certainly can't remember anything too critical of Roeder written by Oliver. Some might say Oliver's ratings were...wide of the mark :icon_lol: :icon_lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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