accadacca 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Name Age P No. Apps G Y R Shola Ameobi 30k Joey Barton 60k Nicky Butt 50k Andrew Carroll 10k Fabricio Coloccini 60k Ryan Donaldson 5k Damien Duff 60k Jose Enrique 40k Geremi 50k Danny Guthrie 30k Jonas Gutierrez 60k Steve Harper 30k Tamas Kadar 10k Tim Krul 10k Kazenga LuaLua 5k Kevin Nolan 50k Nile Ranger 10k Alan Smith 60k Ryan Taylor 30k Steven Taylor 40k Francisco Tejeda "Xisco" 40k Ben Tozer 5k Frank Wiafe Danquah 5k Fraser Forster 5k Zamblera 5k Still running at £40m+ so still some outgoings to come. When will this nightmare end ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Personaly i dont think any of the young lads will be on more than a couple of grand except carroll maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6787 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 We need Butt and Colocini off the wages. Both can be replaced by cheaper, young and hungry players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 2003 - £45.2m 2004 - £44.9m 2005 - £50.2m 2006 - £52.2m 2007 - £62.5m 2008 - £70m 2009 - £71m 2010 - £50m (removed Owen, Martins, Duff, Beye, Geremi, Butt) 2011 - ? (removed Carroll, Campbell, Nolan, Enrique, Xisco so far) Wonder if we're under £40m yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) Which is the UK's most successful Premier League football club? On the basis of outputs versus inputs, you could argue it's Wolverhampton Wanderers. According to Deloitte's latest annual review of football finance, Wolves' wage bill in the year to May 2010 (which is the latest period for which the accounts are available) was £29.8m, which was the second lowest in the Premier League. And during the simultaneous season of 2009-10, Wolves's position in the league was 15th. And it had a comfortable eight point margin over the bottom three relegated clubs. That said, the stats also perhaps indicate that disproportionately low spending on players' wages is probably not a sustainable strategy - since in the season just ended, as stress-wrecked Wolves fans will know, the club only avoided relegation by a whisker, on that nail-biting final match day. Interestingly, Burnley - which spent even less on players' salaries than Wolves, just £22m - was relegated in 2009-10. And the club which spent a bit more, Birmingham, with a £37m wages bill, went down in the season just gone by. So, in case anyone doubted it, there is a clear correlation between survival in the top rank and a willingness and ability to pay those humungous players' salaries. That said, it's by no means a perfect correlation. West Ham's wage bill was a relatively high £54m in 2009-10, when it almost went down - and of course the Hammers were relegated this season. Another club that performed brilliantly on the basis of outputs generated from inputs - and it pains me to say this as a supporter of the neighbouring club - was Tottenham Hotspur. Spurs' wage bill in the year to June 2010 was £67m, 40% less than Arsenal, 49% less than Man Utd and a staggering 61% less than Chelsea - and that was the year it came fouth in the Premier League, precipitating the highs and lows of 2010-11 in the Champions League. Bottom of the league Which is the worst performing club on that model? Well it was Liverpool, which had the fourth largest wage bill at £121m, £10m more than Arsenal and £41m more than the next highest spender, Aston Villa. So its position in that season of seventh, below Villa, represented a serious flop - and would tend to rationalise why the fans were so desperate to see the then owners turfed out. Although Liverpool FC under Kenny Dalgleish's management enjoyed a revival in the latter part of last season, on the basis of the input-output stats, the club has to be seen as an underperformer unless and until it secures a top four league position. So how to assess the success of Chelsea, Manchester Utd, Manchester City and Arsenal? Well Chelsea's wage bill was a full 31% greater than the second highest payer, Man City. For that it won the double in 2009-10 and zip last year. Or to put it another way, the ability to pay huge wages to star players is probably a necessary but not sufficient condition for winning the Premier League. As for Man City, again it shows that money delivers results on the field. But relative to its neighbour, Manchester Utd, Man City's productivity - or premier league points generated per unit of spending on players' wages - is relatively low. Man Utd's wage bill was a fraction less than City's - from which it generated a vastly superior performance, of second in 2009-10 and champions last year. Here's another way of seeing Man City's low productivity. Each of Wolves's Premier League points in 2009-10 cost it £789,000 in wages, whereas each of Man City's points cost it £2m in wages. Wolves was more than twice as efficient as Man City. For what its worth, Chelsea was even less productive - each of its 86 points in 2009-10 cost it over £2m in salaries. What about my club, Arsenal? Well the evidence suggests that the manager Arsene Wenger continues to add value: Arsenal's wage bill was the fifth highest in the country at £111m, more than £20m a year less than Man City and Man Utd; in the concurrent season Arsenal came third, and last year we were fourth. Silverware However this is where I admit that my analysis is only of limited value, in that Premier League points per unit of expenditure is not a measure of success that most fans would recognise. Fans would say actually winning a trophy should count for something. And on that basis, given that Arsenal has not won the Premier League since 2003-4, you could argue that Wenger's productivity is fatuous. In fact, if you combine spending per unit of output with success in winning trophies, there is no doubt that Alex Ferguson is incomparably the most successful manager in the UK. Man Utd's wage bill per Premier League point is £1.6m, just a fraction more than Arsenal's £1.5m. Here's the thing: for the extra £100,000 per point, Man Utd were runners up in 2009/10 and champions in 2010/11. To be clear, Arsenal and Wenger cannot argue that they could not afford to spend the extra £20m shelled out by Man Utd on wages, at least not on Deloitte's analysis. Because Deloitte shows that Arsenal were the only club in 2008/9 and 2009/10 to make substantial pre-tax profits, of £46m and £56m respectively. No other club came within £40m of that profit. It is therefore possible to argue that Arsenal's cherished strategy of running its business on a financially sustainable basis is less in the interest of its supporters than its board may believe. If Arsenal's wage bill had been £20m higher (that is the same as Man Utd's), its profits £20m lower, and the club had actually won something, I doubt many Gooner fans would have complained. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/business-13711054 Arsenal model not in the interest of fans? Edited August 12, 2011 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Arsenal's wage bill was the fifth highest in the country at £111m, more than £20m a year less than Man City and Man Utd; in the concurrent season Arsenal came third, and last year we were fourth. I didn't realise the top clubs were spending well over 100m in wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) Arsenal's wage bill was the fifth highest in the country at £111m, more than £20m a year less than Man City and Man Utd; in the concurrent season Arsenal came third, and last year we were fourth. I didn't realise the top clubs were spending well over 100m in wages. £1.4bn a season the top flight salries. Average of £70m at each club per season Or £53k a week for an average PL player in a 25 man squad. Obviously the top 5 skew that, but we only have 3 players on that...one of them is shite and can't get a game....another is available for free. Edited August 12, 2011 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsweeney 0 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What ever happened to Accadacca? We could do with some of his positivity now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What ever happened to Accadacca? We could do with some of his positivity now. I saw this thread an thought oh FFS not him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4856 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What ever happened to Accadacca? We could do with some of his positivity now. I wonder!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7559 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What ever happened to Accadacca? We could do with some of his positivity now. I saw this thread an thought oh FFS not him again. Was hoping he'd be back with his prediction of us pissing the league. Worked last time anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What ever happened to Accadacca? We could do with some of his positivity now. I wonder!!! It's you then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4856 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What ever happened to Accadacca? We could do with some of his positivity now. I saw this thread an thought oh FFS not him again. I saw this thread and thought "get in, he's back". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4856 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What ever happened to Accadacca? We could do with some of his positivity now. I wonder!!! It's you then Not me, but Im guessing the constant naysayers were too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Honestly, I hoped it was him again. I'd want to apologise for giving him the shit I did. CT, I shall never apologise for the shit I give you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Honestly, I hoped it was him again. I'd want to apologise for giving him the shit I did. CT, I shall never apologise for the shit I give you. Was my thinking too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22187 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I'm guessing our combined wage bill now is about ten bob and a packet of regal king size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I'm guessing our combined wage bill now is about ten bob and a packet of regal king size Easy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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