Smooth Operator 10 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 'Tagging plan' for absent fathers Absent fathers who fail to pay child maintenance could be tagged, made to surrender their passports, forced to carry out community work, and be barred from running their own firms, it has been reported. The plans are part of a shake-up designed to revamp the Child Support Agency, according to the Daily Mirror. The newspaper said it had seen documents showing the Department for Work and Pensions was exploring such ideas as removal of passports, disqualification from becoming a company director and restrictions of liberty such as unpaid work or electronically-monitored curfews. Twelve years after the CSA was set up, about 70% of absent fathers are still believed to be refusing to pay child maintenance, the paper noted. Leading civil servants are said to have warned Home Secretary Charles Clarke that there should be a "proportionate" balance between the seriousness of the offence and the penalty. They add that there is a need to recognise criminal safeguards may be necessary where sanctions impose quasi-criminal penalties. This would mean giving parents the right of appeal before they are punished as well as the chance to appear before special courts. A spokeswoman for the Department for Work and Pensions said only: "The Department is carrying out a root and branch review of the CSA, but no final decisions have been made." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 "disqualification from becoming a company director " WOW - that's really going to work on charva's in Sunderland....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Twelve years after the CSA was set up, about 70% of absent fathers are still believed to be refusing to pay child maintenance, the paper noted.53387[/snapback] A resounding success then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 And now...... from the same people (roll of drums) IDENTITY CARDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 And now...... from the same people (roll of drums) IDENTITY CARDS 53393[/snapback] Going to cost £500 each according to the Sunday Times. Bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I'll probably get the one for Asprilla's Foreskin by mistake and never be able to travel again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I'll probably get the one for Asprilla's Foreskin by mistake and never be able to travel again 53421[/snapback] *ahem* There's not a blemish on my records! I can travel freely as a citizen of good repute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I'll probably get the one for Asprilla's Foreskin by mistake and never be able to travel again 53421[/snapback] *ahem* There's not a blemish on my records! I can travel freely as a citizen of good repute. 53440[/snapback] which false passport do you use? Osama Bin laden's??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Just imagine how much it's going to cost for all of the Professor's identity cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Just imagine how much it's going to cost for all of the Professor's identity cards. 53476[/snapback] They'll have to be extra wide to accomodate all the letters after his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 he's as rich as Croessus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I don't have a problem with Identity cards and find the majority of arguments against them a little alarmist, tbh this shake up however is yet another quick fix, instead of reducing the number of dead-beat-dads, have extra repercussions invented to punish them. put in the same box as ASBOs in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) 'Tagging plan' for absent fathers Absent fathers who fail to pay child maintenance could be tagged, made to surrender their passports, forced to carry out community work, and be barred from running their own firms, it has been reported. The plans are part of a shake-up designed to revamp the Child Support Agency, according to the Daily Mirror. The newspaper said it had seen documents showing the Department for Work and Pensions was exploring such ideas as removal of passports, disqualification from becoming a company director and restrictions of liberty such as unpaid work or electronically-monitored curfews. Twelve years after the CSA was set up, about 70% of absent fathers are still believed to be refusing to pay child maintenance, the paper noted. Leading civil servants are said to have warned Home Secretary Charles Clarke that there should be a "proportionate" balance between the seriousness of the offence and the penalty. They add that there is a need to recognise criminal safeguards may be necessary where sanctions impose quasi-criminal penalties. This would mean giving parents the right of appeal before they are punished as well as the chance to appear before special courts. A spokeswoman for the Department for Work and Pensions said only: "The Department is carrying out a root and branch review of the CSA, but no final decisions have been made." 53387[/snapback] Nothing for you to worry about being a Jaffa. Add that to the fact your lass is over 45 and to old to have bairns anyway and you've definitely got nowt to worry about Edited November 7, 2005 by Wacky Jnr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Operator 10 Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) Nothing for you to worry about being a Jaffa. Add that to the fact your lass is over 45 and to old to have bairns anyway and you've definitely got nowt to worry about 53668[/snapback] Like my mother used to tell me when I was a bairn Wacky, had your tongue if you've got nowt constructive to say! Edited November 7, 2005 by Smooth Operator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) Like my mother used to tell me when I was a bairn Wacky, had your tongue if you've got nowt constructive to say! 53669[/snapback] Not my fault you're shooting blanks son, makes your user name sound a bit seedless, i mean needless though Edited November 7, 2005 by Wacky Jnr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Operator 10 Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 What the fuck makes you think i'm trying to fertilise? I'm the right side of 30, unlike yourself. As the Stones once sang, time is on my side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) What the fuck makes you think i'm trying to fertilise? 53680[/snapback] Trying Edited November 7, 2005 by Wacky Jnr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I don't have a problem with Identity cards and find the majority of arguments against them a little alarmist, tbh 53653[/snapback] You're right of course, the question is whether there is reason for alarm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I don't have a problem with Identity cards and find the majority of arguments against them a little alarmist, tbh 53653[/snapback] You're right of course, the question is whether there is reason for alarm. 53735[/snapback] £500 a throw (according to Renton) is a canny argument against if you ask me. That would equate to about £30,000,000,000 for the UK if my maths is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I don't have a problem with Identity cards and find the majority of arguments against them a little alarmist, tbh 53653[/snapback] You're right of course, the question is whether there is reason for alarm. 53735[/snapback] £500 a throw (according to Renton) is a canny argument against if you ask me. That would equate to about £30,000,000,000 for the UK if my maths is right. 53737[/snapback] Totally agree - why should we pay such a ridiculous amount for something which the majority of the population doesn't want and an identification process which is flawed. Tax anyone?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I don't have a problem with Identity cards and find the majority of arguments against them a little alarmist, tbh 53653[/snapback] You're right of course, the question is whether there is reason for alarm. 53735[/snapback] £500 a throw (according to Renton) is a canny argument against if you ask me. That would equate to about £30,000,000,000 for the UK if my maths is right. 53737[/snapback] £29,999,999,500 actually. Craig and Gol wouldnt need one each. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I don't have a problem with Identity cards and find the majority of arguments against them a little alarmist, tbh 53653[/snapback] You're right of course, the question is whether there is reason for alarm. 53735[/snapback] £500 a throw (according to Renton) is a canny argument against if you ask me. That would equate to about £30,000,000,000 for the UK if my maths is right. 53737[/snapback] £29,999,999,500 actually. Craig and Gol wouldnt need one each. Obviously. 53749[/snapback] Bastid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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