The Mighty Wigan

[Renton 21996]

You get a side grafting and working as a team then there is no telling where confidence can take you. Remember the Norwich team of the early 90's who had a good couple of years? There were no stars in that side, I think Chris Sutton was the only one you could say went on to better things.

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Ruel Fox came here in his black and white socks.

 

Well, I liked him.

[Guest alex]

You get a side grafting and working as a team then there is no telling where confidence can take you. Remember the Norwich team of the early 90's who had a good couple of years? There were no stars in that side, I think Chris Sutton was the only one you could say went on to better things.

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Ruel Fox came here in his black and white socks.

 

Well, I liked him.

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Whey aye, Ruel! Forgot about him like

[David Kelly 1260]

They have done fantastic and all power to them but I still think they will finish in the bottom half though. They could quite easily not pick up a point in their next six or seven games.

And for all the decent football they may well have played they looked pretty poor against us and with the one exception of their goal they never really threatened our defence at all.

We were just shite that day.

[Optimistic Nut 189]

One thing in particular I've noticed (apart from the good football they've been playing) is that their back four look excellent.

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I think that's down to their style of defending though. They're very negative and defend as deep as possible as they know they'll be under the cosh a lot no matter what system they play. That's why they went out and signed de Zeeuw & Henchoz. Two very average centre-backs, but who are excellent in the air, so when balls do fly into their box, 9 times out of 10, they'll get rid of it. Put either of them at Arsenal, Man U, etc. and they'd be found out no problem.

[Renton 21996]

One thing in particular I've noticed (apart from the good football they've been playing) is that their back four look excellent.

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I think that's down to their style of defending though. They're very negative and defend as deep as possible as they know they'll be under the cosh a lot no matter what system they play. That's why they went out and signed de Zeeuw & Henchoz. Two very average centre-backs, but who are excellent in the air, so when balls do fly into their box, 9 times out of 10, they'll get rid of it. Put either of them at Arsenal, Man U, etc. and they'd be found out no problem.

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Yet they almost got a draw against Chelsea, and by all accounts looked the better team?

 

They're organised, use tactics, and have a great morale. That is the key.

[sweetleftpeg 0]

Ruel Fox was alright, but he wasn't that good really was he? It was about a work ethic and a team who believed in themselves. Didn't they beat Inter at home as well?

[Guest alex]

Ruel Fox was alright, but he wasn't that good really was he? It was about a work ethic and a team who believed in themselves. Didn't they beat Inter at home as well?

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I'm not sure but I can remember Villa (when David Platt was there) beating Inter at home 2-0 a couple of years earlier, only to lose 3-0 away

[sweetleftpeg 0]

Who beat Inter in a penalty shoot out? I have a vivid memory of a game on council tele with Bergkamp missing a penalty in a shoot out. I'm positive it wasn't a dream.

[Guest alex]

Who beat Inter in a penalty shoot out? I have a vivid memory of a game on council tele with Bergkamp missing a penalty in a shoot out. I'm positive it wasn't a dream.

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Dunno, thinking back didn't Narge (that's how they say Norwich in Norfolk ) lose to Inter? They might have won the home leg like.

[sweetleftpeg 0]

Maybe it wasn't a penalty shoot out but the cheating dutchman missed a penalty in the Villa home tie?

 

*Goes to investigate..*

[Rob W 0]

They have done fantastic and all power to them but I still think they will finish in the bottom half though.  They could quite easily not pick up a point in their next six or seven games.

And for all the decent football they may well have played they looked pretty poor against us and with the one exception of their goal they never really threatened our defence at all.

We were just shite that day.

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not just that day I'm afraid

[Rob W 0]

Ruel Fox was alright, but he wasn't that good really was he? It was about a work ethic and a team who believed in themselves. Didn't they beat Inter at home as well?

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I'm not sure but I can remember Villa (when David Platt was there) beating Inter at home 2-0 a couple of years earlier, only to lose 3-0 away

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Hmmm - I can remember an other team playing in Yurop who won away and then got beat at home and then slumped to the bottom the PL..............

 

 

people in glass houses

[Guest alex]

Ruel Fox was alright, but he wasn't that good really was he? It was about a work ethic and a team who believed in themselves. Didn't they beat Inter at home as well?

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I'm not sure but I can remember Villa (when David Platt was there) beating Inter at home 2-0 a couple of years earlier, only to lose 3-0 away

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Hmmm - I can remember an other team playing in Yurop who won away and then got beat at home and then slumped to the bottom the PL..............

 

 

people in glass houses

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I was more amused by the British (well English) press creaming themselves at the initial result, only for Inter to murder Villa at home.

[sweetleftpeg 0]

Norwich were beaten by Inter at home 1-0 with Bergkamp scoring a penalty. So I was totally off. They say it's the mind that goes first.

[BigAl 0]

Are Wigan that different to us, when we came back up to the top flight?

I mean at the time we didn't have any real big names in the side apart from a 32 year old Beardsley, who many thought was past it.

Cole was developing a reputation but the rest of the team were playing above themselves fuelled by the crowd, team spirit and Keegan.

Edited November 9, 2005 by BigAl

[Renton 21996]

Are Wigan that different to us, when we came back up to the top flight?

I mean at the time we didn't have any real big names in the side apart from a 32 year old Beardsley, who many thought was past it.

Cole was developing a reputation but the rest of the team were playing above themselves fuelled by the crowd, team spirit and Keegan.

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Well they haven't got the crowd or Keegan really, have they?

[Guest alex]

Are Wigan that different to us, when we came back up to the top flight?

I mean at the time we didn't have any real big names in the side apart from a 32 year old Beardsley, who many thought was past it.

Cole was developing a reputation but the rest of the team were playing above themselves fuelled by the crowd, team spirit and Keegan.

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Well they haven't got the crowd or Keegan really, have they?

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Can't quite see them breaking the world transfer record either

[BigAl 0]

Are Wigan that different to us, when we came back up to the top flight?

I mean at the time we didn't have any real big names in the side apart from a 32 year old Beardsley, who many thought was past it.

Cole was developing a reputation but the rest of the team were playing above themselves fuelled by the crowd, team spirit and Keegan.

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Well they haven't got the crowd or Keegan really, have they?

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Are Wigan that different to us, when we came back up to the top flight?

I mean at the time we didn't have any real big names in the side apart from a 32 year old Beardsley, who many thought was past it.

Cole was developing a reputation but the rest of the team were playing above themselves fuelled by the crowd, team spirit and Keegan.

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Well they haven't got the crowd or Keegan really, have they?

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Can't quite see them breaking the world transfer record either

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They are the same in as much as they surprised everyone how well they are doing, 12 months prior to our promotion we nearly went down to the old 3rd Division and were on the brink of being bankrupt.

Obviously things have vastly improved and Wigan are not on the same scale as us, but I find it refreshing that a team that is well coached and work hard can be high up in the Premiership.

Looking at there next half dozen fixtures the bubble could well burst, but so far so good and fair play to them.

[Tooj 17]

i think the reason their defensive record is so good as Jewell knows De Zeeuw and Henchoz have no pace whatsoever so this just defend deep for their lives and not exposing their lack of pace, that's why Owen was so ineffective against them earlier on this season

[Guest alex]

They are the same in as much as they surprised everyone how well they are doing, 12 months prior to our promotion we nearly went down to the old 3rd Division and were on the brink of being bankrupt.

Obviously things have vastly improved and Wigan are not on the same scale as us, but I find it refreshing that a team that is well coached and work hard can be high up in the Premiership.

Looking at there next half dozen fixtures the bubble could well burst, but so far so good and fair play to them.

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Fair enough, but I can't see them finishing 3rd like we did in our first season. Good luck to them though.

[BigAl 0]

They are the same in as much as they surprised everyone how well they are doing, 12 months prior to our promotion we nearly went down to the old 3rd Division and were on the brink of being bankrupt.

Obviously things have vastly improved and Wigan are not on the same scale as us, but I find it refreshing that a team that is well coached and work hard can be high up in the Premiership.

Looking at there next half dozen fixtures the bubble could well burst, but so far so good and fair play to them.

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Fair enough, but I can't see them finishing 3rd like we did in our first season. Good luck to them though.

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I agree with you there, 3rd would be a tall order.

Thinking back to those days it makes me feel great inside, it was just a total joy to watch and it made you feel so proud.

This is how we started the 94-95 season:

 

Leicester 1 NUFC 3

NUFC 4 Coventry 0

NUFC 5 Southampton 1

West Ham 1 NUFC 3

NUFC 4 Chelsea 2

Arsenal 2 NUFC 3

NUFC 1 Liverpool 1

Villa 0 NUFC 2

 

25 goals in 8 games fanfu--ing tastic!!!!!!!

[Tooj 17]

They are the same in as much as they surprised everyone how well they are doing, 12 months prior to our promotion we nearly went down to the old 3rd Division and were on the brink of being bankrupt.

Obviously things have vastly improved and Wigan are not on the same scale as us, but I find it refreshing that a team that is well coached and work hard can be high up in the Premiership.

Looking at there next half dozen fixtures the bubble could well burst, but so far so good and fair play to them.

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Fair enough, but I can't see them finishing 3rd like we did in our first season. Good luck to them though.

54375[/snapback]

 

I agree with you there, 3rd would be a tall order.

Thinking back to those days it makes me feel great inside, it was just a total joy to watch and it made you feel so proud.

This is how we started the 94-95 season:

 

Leicester 1 NUFC 3

NUFC 4 Coventry 0

NUFC 5 Southampton 1

West Ham 1 NUFC 3

NUFC 4 Chelsea 2

Arsenal 2 NUFC 3

NUFC 1 Liverpool 1

Villa 0 NUFC 2

 

25 goals in 8 games fanfu--ing tastic!!!!!!!

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and then Bilbao

[Renton 21996]

They are the same in as much as they surprised everyone how well they are doing, 12 months prior to our promotion we nearly went down to the old 3rd Division and were on the brink of being bankrupt.

Obviously things have vastly improved and Wigan are not on the same scale as us, but I find it refreshing that a team that is well coached and work hard can be high up in the Premiership.

Looking at there next half dozen fixtures the bubble could well burst, but so far so good and fair play to them.

54355[/snapback]

Fair enough, but I can't see them finishing 3rd like we did in our first season. Good luck to them though.

54375[/snapback]

 

I agree with you there, 3rd would be a tall order.

Thinking back to those days it makes me feel great inside, it was just a total joy to watch and it made you feel so proud.

This is how we started the 94-95 season:

 

Leicester 1 NUFC 3

NUFC 4 Coventry 0

NUFC 5 Southampton 1

West Ham 1 NUFC 3

NUFC 4 Chelsea 2

Arsenal 2 NUFC 3

NUFC 1 Liverpool 1

Villa 0 NUFC 2

 

25 goals in 8 games fanfu--ing tastic!!!!!!!

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and then Bilbao

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And finishing a disappointing 6th.....

 

But you're right. Those first 3 seasons in the PL were practically the best in living memory.

[Isegrim 9899]

They are the same in as much as they surprised everyone how well they are doing, 12 months prior to our promotion we nearly went down to the old 3rd Division and were on the brink of being bankrupt.

Obviously things have vastly improved and Wigan are not on the same scale as us, but I find it refreshing that a team that is well coached and work hard can be high up in the Premiership.

Looking at there next half dozen fixtures the bubble could well burst, but so far so good and fair play to them.

54355[/snapback]

Fair enough, but I can't see them finishing 3rd like we did in our first season. Good luck to them though.

54375[/snapback]

 

I agree with you there, 3rd would be a tall order.

Thinking back to those days it makes me feel great inside, it was just a total joy to watch and it made you feel so proud.

This is how we started the 94-95 season:

 

Leicester 1 NUFC 3

NUFC 4 Coventry 0

NUFC 5 Southampton 1

West Ham 1 NUFC 3

NUFC 4 Chelsea 2

Arsenal 2 NUFC 3

NUFC 1 Liverpool 1

Villa 0 NUFC 2

 

25 goals in 8 games fanfu--ing tastic!!!!!!!

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and then Bilbao

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And finishing a disappointing 6th.....

 

But you're right. Those first 3 seasons in the PL were practically the best in living memory.

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Though, who cares about enjoying football. I've learnt a couple of days ago that these seasons were not good because in a couple of games Newcastle weren't able to defend a lead...

[Craig 6700]

They are the same in as much as they surprised everyone how well they are doing, 12 months prior to our promotion we nearly went down to the old 3rd Division and were on the brink of being bankrupt.

Obviously things have vastly improved and Wigan are not on the same scale as us, but I find it refreshing that a team that is well coached and work hard can be high up in the Premiership.

Looking at there next half dozen fixtures the bubble could well burst, but so far so good and fair play to them.

54355[/snapback]

Fair enough, but I can't see them finishing 3rd like we did in our first season. Good luck to them though.

54375[/snapback]

 

I agree with you there, 3rd would be a tall order.

Thinking back to those days it makes me feel great inside, it was just a total joy to watch and it made you feel so proud.

This is how we started the 94-95 season:

 

Leicester 1 NUFC 3

NUFC 4 Coventry 0

NUFC 5 Southampton 1

West Ham 1 NUFC 3

NUFC 4 Chelsea 2

Arsenal 2 NUFC 3

NUFC 1 Liverpool 1

Villa 0 NUFC 2

 

25 goals in 8 games fanfu--ing tastic!!!!!!!

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and then Bilbao

54436[/snapback]

 

And finishing a disappointing 6th.....

 

But you're right. Those first 3 seasons in the PL were practically the best in living memory.

54478[/snapback]

 

Though, who cares about enjoying football. I've learnt a couple of days ago that these seasons were not good because in a couple of games Newcastle weren't able to defend a lead...

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Total manipulation of a point - no wonder you work in law Isegrim!