Michael Jackson

[Nyff 0]

Look at the fucking clip of some of the posts in here..

 

Ow!

 

 

As wrong as it is, I am fighting the urge to sign up and troll the hell out of that forum

[Billy Castell 0]

Oh yeah. Sorry about that. Basically, our Michael Jackson thread is not as funny as this one, and one guy is accusing me of not having any respect because I stated I did not know whether he bummed that 1st kid or not.

 

I can't think why he accused you of lacking respect!

 

Pah! Not exactly Jerry Sadowidz is it? You seen his jokes about Gary Glitter?

 

P.S. You're not the only one. I'd think of every double entendre about his music touching me as a child etc. possible.

Edited June 26, 2009 by Billy Castell

[peasepud 59]

To quote Tooj from Newcastle-Online.

 

My take on the whole thing.

 

Was shocked last night when I got a text and thought it was just my mate taking the piss and I turned Sky News on only to see in utter disbelief rumours that he had died. Then when the news came in that he had died I must admit it didn't seem real, I was a bit taken back by it, as this was actually surreal, seeing someone as big as that in popular culture to die out of the blue, well it's something I really can't say that I've experienced before. Not on this stage anyway, as I wasn't even born when the likes of Lennon and Elvis died.

 

I will always be a big fan of his music, I grew up on Motown and my dad used to play Jackson records all of the time, so I've always been an admirer of his music and his dancing. I really think he is one of the greatest vocalists to have ever lived, that in my opinion cannot be doubted

 

I still don't believe he did molester those children, although I do think the situation he put himself in and the children on his ranch in was wrong. Well to me it is without doubt wrong as I would not even dream of being in such a scenario. However to him this seemed perfectly acceptable, that is the problem, the man was mentally ill. But due to his fame and celebrity he could do things like these and people would let him, simply because of who he was. It's a shame that for all of his talent for years he was not of sound mind (IMO of course) due to various events in his life that had happened to him. I by no means am defending him, but his viewpoint to mine is completely different, simply due to the obvious mental problems he was having.

 

The sad thing in all of this is now three children have to grow up without a father, no child that age should have to go through losing their dad, who in his own way obviously cared for them. They are the real people we have to feel sorry for in all of this.

 

Plus I also hate the fact I felt I had to make that post on those allegations and I can't just sit and pay tribute to one of the greatest entertainers of my lifetime, one whom I grew up and idolised.

 

I always thought that he (tooJ) was you?

[Fop 1]

All the celebratory/politician public statements are quite amusing.

 

 

 

They all want a piece of him and his talent, and want to be seen saying something, but are incredibly careful not go too far in case their are seen as condoning the other stuff.

[Tooj 17]

To quote Tooj from Newcastle-Online.

 

My take on the whole thing.

 

Was shocked last night when I got a text and thought it was just my mate taking the piss and I turned Sky News on only to see in utter disbelief rumours that he had died. Then when the news came in that he had died I must admit it didn't seem real, I was a bit taken back by it, as this was actually surreal, seeing someone as big as that in popular culture to die out of the blue, well it's something I really can't say that I've experienced before. Not on this stage anyway, as I wasn't even born when the likes of Lennon and Elvis died.

 

I will always be a big fan of his music, I grew up on Motown and my dad used to play Jackson records all of the time, so I've always been an admirer of his music and his dancing. I really think he is one of the greatest vocalists to have ever lived, that in my opinion cannot be doubted

 

I still don't believe he did molester those children, although I do think the situation he put himself in and the children on his ranch in was wrong. Well to me it is without doubt wrong as I would not even dream of being in such a scenario. However to him this seemed perfectly acceptable, that is the problem, the man was mentally ill. But due to his fame and celebrity he could do things like these and people would let him, simply because of who he was. It's a shame that for all of his talent for years he was not of sound mind (IMO of course) due to various events in his life that had happened to him. I by no means am defending him, but his viewpoint to mine is completely different, simply due to the obvious mental problems he was having.

 

The sad thing in all of this is now three children have to grow up without a father, no child that age should have to go through losing their dad, who in his own way obviously cared for them. They are the real people we have to feel sorry for in all of this.

 

Plus I also hate the fact I felt I had to make that post on those allegations and I can't just sit and pay tribute to one of the greatest entertainers of my lifetime, one whom I grew up and idolised.

 

I always thought that he (tooJ) was you?

He is man. I was just doing a snakehips/marvellous marvin kind of thing.

[paddy 17]

To quote Tooj from Newcastle-Online.

 

My take on the whole thing.

 

Was shocked last night when I got a text and thought it was just my mate taking the piss and I turned Sky News on only to see in utter disbelief rumours that he had died. Then when the news came in that he had died I must admit it didn't seem real, I was a bit taken back by it, as this was actually surreal, seeing someone as big as that in popular culture to die out of the blue, well it's something I really can't say that I've experienced before. Not on this stage anyway, as I wasn't even born when the likes of Lennon and Elvis died.

 

I will always be a big fan of his music, I grew up on Motown and my dad used to play Jackson records all of the time, so I've always been an admirer of his music and his dancing. I really think he is one of the greatest vocalists to have ever lived, that in my opinion cannot be doubted

 

I still don't believe he did molester those children, although I do think the situation he put himself in and the children on his ranch in was wrong. Well to me it is without doubt wrong as I would not even dream of being in such a scenario. However to him this seemed perfectly acceptable, that is the problem, the man was mentally ill. But due to his fame and celebrity he could do things like these and people would let him, simply because of who he was. It's a shame that for all of his talent for years he was not of sound mind (IMO of course) due to various events in his life that had happened to him. I by no means am defending him, but his viewpoint to mine is completely different, simply due to the obvious mental problems he was having.

 

The sad thing in all of this is now three children have to grow up without a father, no child that age should have to go through losing their dad, who in his own way obviously cared for them. They are the real people we have to feel sorry for in all of this.

 

Plus I also hate the fact I felt I had to make that post on those allegations and I can't just sit and pay tribute to one of the greatest entertainers of my lifetime, one whom I grew up and idolised.

 

I always thought that he (tooJ) was you?

 

 

woosh-tastic

[Happy Face 29]

Environmental groups have insisted Jacko should not be buried or cremated. All that plastic should be recycled they say.

[PaddockLad 17645]

Environmental groups have insisted Jacko should not be buried or cremated. All that plastic should be recycled they say.

 

[Tom 14013]

To be honest I thought the media had gone a little far in filming his corpse on a stretcher being brought out of a helicopter, covered up or not.

[Tooj 17]

To be honest I thought the media had gone a little far in filming his corpse on a stretcher being brought out of a helicopter, covered up or not.

Not justifying it by any means but you could expect it.

[Tom 14013]

Yeah It was expected but it's still despicable.

[Renton 21985]

Yeah It was expected but it's still despicable.

 

 

All the sick jokes on here and that's despicable?

[Park Life 71]

Jordi chilling.

[Tom 14013]

Yeah It was expected but it's still despicable.

 

 

All the sick jokes on here and that's despicable?

 

I don't think a man's dead body on world wide television is comparable to jokes on an internet forum.

[Ketsbaia 0]

That's nowt, one photographer got a good photo of him looking very much dead while being given CPR

 

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/06/75724/index.html

[ewerk 31195]

That's nowt, one photographer got a good photo of him looking very much dead while being given CPR

 

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/06/75724/index.html

 

I guess CPR isn't as easy as ABC.

[Renton 21985]

Yeah It was expected but it's still despicable.

 

 

All the sick jokes on here and that's despicable?

 

I don't think a man's dead body on world wide television is comparable to jokes on an internet forum.

 

I don't have a problem with either. Would you have a problem with seeing his coffin at a funeral?

[Fop 1]

Can Michael Jackson's demons be explained?

 

No one knows exactly where Michael Jackson's problems stem from. But in the eyes of those who study behaviour, feelings and motivations, his unorthodox upbringing could go a long way to explain his troubled adult life.

 

Michael Jackson, who has died at 50, is known to have been a man who struggled with a host of inner demons.

 

Here, psychologists weigh up how the extraordinary childhood experiences of someone such as Jackson might shape a person in later life.

 

BEING BEATEN AS A CHILD

 

Michael Jackson's father Joe admitted to the BBC in 2003 that he whipped his son as a child.

The child star at work in 1972...

 

Violence occasioned by a parent on a child leaves lasting psychological and physical impact, says Peter Sharp, chartered psychologist at the British Psychological Society.

 

"Young people in receipt of physical violence have difficulty forming and maintaining long-term relationships," he says.

 

"They're 'anxious-avoidant', which means they will often take on what they know they can be successful in, therefore avoid challenges outside their comfort zones and may try to provide their worth by excelling and over-excelling in one particular area."

 

If that person thinks that to have affirmation and validity, they need to be successful at something, he adds, there is a risk that this is the only thing about them they define as worthy.

HAVING A UNIQUE GIFT

 

Peter Congdon is a psychologist who works with extremely intelligent or gifted children.

 

"It's well known that the best preparation for growing up is to live fully as a child. Parents of clever or talented children shouldn't forget this."

...and at rest

 

Accelerated mental development, for example, slows down social and mental growth and the result can be a lop-sided and maladjusted individual.

 

Parental expectations bring undue pressure on children - one of Mr Congdon's clients is a boy who is being groomed to become an actor and already he is talking about buying his parents a house.

 

Another man took his teenage child to the swimming baths every day at 4am in an effort to make her an Olympic champion, but it was making her unhappy.

 

Sometimes the pressure can be overwhelming, he says. "Philosopher JS Mill was taught Latin at three, Greek at four, wrote his first history book at 16 and aged 19 had a mental breakdown."

 

Jay Belsky, director of the Institute for the Study of Children, Families and Social Issues at Birkbeck College, University of College London, says: "With a gift, the issue becomes 'Am I loved because I sing and dance or because I'm worthy of being loved?'

 

"I think the child figures that out, not necessarily in a conscious way but does it register? Certainly."

 

BEING AN IMPRESSIONABLE CHILD

 

Children vary in their sensitivity to things, says Prof Belsky, and you might think of Michael Jackson as one who benefited from being impressionable.

 

"You might think of him as a kid who was highly malleable for better or worse. Better in the sense that he could take advantage of the musical lessons and dance lessons and that kind of guidance, where for another kid it might be water off a duck's back."

 

But this same quality may have counted against him when he took alleged comments about his appearance to heart, he says.

 

Young people who have issues about their appearance often take those hang-ups into later life, says Mr Sharp.

 

"One of the things about teenage years is that young people frequently define themselves in terms of image and if they don't negotiate the transition to adulthood successfully then they take these concerns about the way they look with them."

BEING A CHILD STAR

 

Research into childhood fame is still at an early stage, says Kairen Cullen, but from her experience as an educational psychologist, the route to fame seems to be key to how well individuals deal with the effects.

 

"If fame is sought, either directly or vicariously, as in the case of parents for their children, frequently difficulties, usually of an intra-and inter-personal nature, develop.

 

Police hold back Michael Jackson fans outside Madame Tussauds, 1985

Public adoration and private isolation

 

"Relationships with others can be problematic because the individual develops an exaggerated sense of self, their importance in the world and their effect upon others.

 

"Processes of idealisation can unfold and the individual can find it very difficult to live up to others' expectations and projections."

 

For those youngsters with unique talents who are "discovered", they are not living out the dreams of others, but realising their unique selves, so discovery could actually enhance their psychological health.

HAVING A LARGE, CLOSE FAMILY

 

As the seventh child in a large family, Michael Jackson was not lacking in the company of other children. But big families can multiply sibling rivalries, which need not be detrimental to a child's development.

 

"You can have a healthy sibling rivalry in which the older child is someone who you can compete with and reach for and as you struggle to do so, he or she is encouraging you and enabling you," says Prof Belsky.

 

"But if the sibling is demeaning and bullying, then what could be wonderfully facilitating can be destructive."

 

A child with an older sibling can be inspired by his or her accomplishments in music, dancing or basketball, for example, says the psychology professor. The child may want to be like that or better.

 

A skilled parent should monitor this sensitively, using the gap in their abilities as a way of motivating the younger child rather than mocking it.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8121599.stm

[Tom 14013]

Sold:750 million albums

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Marvellous Marvin Magler 0]

Apparently he was taking a huge fit when the paramedics first arrived on the scene.

 

His convulsions were so bad it prompted one paramedic to say, "I just can't, I just can't, I just can't control his feet."

[ewerk 31195]

Apparently he was taking a huge fit when the paramedics first arrived on the scene.

 

His convulsions were so bad it prompted one paramedic to say, "I just can't, I just can't, I just can't control his feet."

 

Shamone you.

[Ayatollah Hermione 14048]

Apparently he was taking a huge fit when the paramedics first arrived on the scene.

 

His convulsions were so bad it prompted one paramedic to say, "I just can't, I just can't, I just can't control his feet."

 

 

Christ

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

Frankie Boyle's Daily Record column:

 

So the Michael Jackson roller coaster has stopped. Looks like he got enough.

 

Apparently he died after walking into a pub in Paisley and saying “Do you wanna be starting something?” We can all learn something from Michael’s life. For example, it looks like oxygen tents are a big waste of money.

 

Why did no one pick up on it when he had shown all the signs of a heart attack? Wheezing noises, jerking of the arms, ashen complexion? I suppose to be fair he has been showing all those symptoms since the mid eighties. Had Jackson’s staff noticed something was wrong earlier he might have been saved, but when they saw him grab his left arm, go stiff and yelp they just thought he was practising his moves for Beat It. It’s not known what triggered the heart attack, but High School M usical 3 was on cable at the time. In many ways he was a tragic figure. Let’s be honest, he had more personal issues than Batman.Who could have imagined that the monster he transformed into in “Thriller” would look less weird than what he transformed into in real life? It’s got to be a tossup whether he get cremated or recycled. His postmortem will look like the Roswell autopsy.

 

I was a big Michael Jackson fan when I was 8. I didn't know it at the time, but I was his 'type.'

For his London concerts Michael Jackson advertised for children in wheelchairs or with missing legs! What parent would agree to that? Look what happened with kids who could run away! Those tickets sold out in minutes. An interesting attitude we have to paedophilia in this country, “ We don’t want paedophiles round here! Unless they’ve really worked on their choreography…”

 

He was a legend and his funeral will be amazing. Ironically the funeral will be the first time in years his children haven’t been forced to wear veils.With the amount of money the concert tickets have made I wouldn’t be surprised if they still wheeled him on. It would add an interesting touch to I’ll Be There. Michael Jackson was apparently refusing to eat ahead of his O2 gigs. He now weighed less than nine stone and the only thing he would eat willingly was nachos. Nachos being the name of a young Mexican boy. It’s said that Jackson had developed a phobia about being fat. Not like him to worry about his looks. Apparently when the news broke Jackson’s father rushed straight to the hospital, just to check if the medics needed a hand with beating Michael’s chest.

 

Jackson’s family said they were moved to see that the hospital staff were all wearing black. Actually, they were all wearing white as usual, but that family had always had a little trouble admitting the difference. The man may be gone but he has left a musical legacy that will be around for hundreds of years. As will his face.

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