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[donaldstott 0]

Just got my results. 2:1 in BA (Hons) Journalism from Mackem Poly

 

If I didn't have an interview tomorrow i'd be out on the lash right now.

 

That's exactly the same result, course and dirty makem poly degree that I have..

 

We can probably talk at length about how shite the course is then

 

I'm fairly sure that when I did it it was the first year it was ever run. They cobbled together bits of media studies and Media production with a bit of journalism.

 

I have to say that concentrating on the basics of print journlism and getting that spot on would have been infinitely more useful in terms of preparing me for the world of work.

 

Is the job in journalism?

 

Sounds like it hasn't changed a bit

 

It's for a sixth month internship at the Sunderland Echo contributing to a multimedia journalism project they're running.

 

Good luck mate, it's very tough at the moment (there are loads of experienced people out of work) so getting experience like that will be vital.

The pay is shit, but the job is great.

[Park Life 71]

I had to have an interview with some cunt from Camb Uni before I got my 1st.

 

You have a first from Cambridge? What subject if you don't mind me asking?

 

Congratulations Skol and (belatedly) Smogeordie.

 

No, I don't.

 

There was some controversy with my final paper which was resolved by some old duffer from Cambridge Uni they called in. I had to sit with him one to one and talk about my ideas (having forgotten most of it ). Lovely bloke, I think he was deaf which helped.

 

Controversy?

 

Was it about the Jews, Parky?

 

 

Was it in history Parky?

 

You boys won't be happy till they lock me up innit?

[Guest alex]

I had to have an interview with some cunt from Camb Uni before I got my 1st.

 

You have a first from Cambridge? What subject if you don't mind me asking?

 

Congratulations Skol and (belatedly) Smogeordie.

 

No, I don't.

 

There was some controversy with my final paper which was resolved by some old duffer from Cambridge Uni they called in. I had to sit with him one to one and talk about my ideas (having forgotten most of it ). Lovely bloke, I think he was deaf which helped.

 

Controversy?

 

Was it about the Jews, Parky?

 

 

It was about the re-reading of the work Samuel Beckett, foregrounded by a textual analysis using the deconstructionist techniques of Derrida, Nietzsche and Foucalt if you must know. To this day I don't really know what it was about.

That's the best way for literary theory. No one can actually tie down what it's all about anyway, least of all understand it. Which is the beauty of writing about it and also why reading it is so painful.

[Ketsbaia 0]

Just got my results. 2:1 in BA (Hons) Journalism from Mackem Poly

 

If I didn't have an interview tomorrow i'd be out on the lash right now.

 

That's exactly the same result, course and dirty makem poly degree that I have..

 

We can probably talk at length about how shite the course is then

 

I'm fairly sure that when I did it it was the first year it was ever run. They cobbled together bits of media studies and Media production with a bit of journalism.

 

I have to say that concentrating on the basics of print journlism and getting that spot on would have been infinitely more useful in terms of preparing me for the world of work.

 

Is the job in journalism?

 

Sounds like it hasn't changed a bit

 

It's for a sixth month internship at the Sunderland Echo contributing to a multimedia journalism project they're running.

 

Good luck mate, it's very tough at the moment (there are loads of experienced people out of work) so getting experience like that will be vital.

The pay is shit, but the job is great.

 

Aye, it seems nigh on impossible to get a job in journalism at the minute. I've applied for the few trainee reporter roles that have popped up around the country but they've been getting around 200 applicants so I don't really stand a chance.

 

I've got another interview at CBI in a few weeks too, for a PR/Journalism role so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[Park Life 71]

Just got my results. 2:1 in BA (Hons) Journalism from Mackem Poly

 

If I didn't have an interview tomorrow i'd be out on the lash right now.

 

That's exactly the same result, course and dirty makem poly degree that I have..

 

We can probably talk at length about how shite the course is then

 

I'm fairly sure that when I did it it was the first year it was ever run. They cobbled together bits of media studies and Media production with a bit of journalism.

 

I have to say that concentrating on the basics of print journlism and getting that spot on would have been infinitely more useful in terms of preparing me for the world of work.

 

Is the job in journalism?

 

Sounds like it hasn't changed a bit

 

It's for a sixth month internship at the Sunderland Echo contributing to a multimedia journalism project they're running.

 

Good luck mate, it's very tough at the moment (there are loads of experienced people out of work) so getting experience like that will be vital.

The pay is shit, but the job is great.

 

Aye, it seems nigh on impossible to get a job in journalism at the minute. I've applied for the few trainee reporter roles that have popped up around the country but they've been getting around 200 applicants so I don't really stand a chance.

 

I've got another interview at CBI in a few weeks too, for a PR/Journalism role so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

 

Write articles and send them all over the place is another way.

[Ketsbaia 0]

Just got my results. 2:1 in BA (Hons) Journalism from Mackem Poly

 

If I didn't have an interview tomorrow i'd be out on the lash right now.

 

That's exactly the same result, course and dirty makem poly degree that I have..

 

We can probably talk at length about how shite the course is then

 

I'm fairly sure that when I did it it was the first year it was ever run. They cobbled together bits of media studies and Media production with a bit of journalism.

 

I have to say that concentrating on the basics of print journlism and getting that spot on would have been infinitely more useful in terms of preparing me for the world of work.

 

Is the job in journalism?

 

Sounds like it hasn't changed a bit

 

It's for a sixth month internship at the Sunderland Echo contributing to a multimedia journalism project they're running.

 

Good luck mate, it's very tough at the moment (there are loads of experienced people out of work) so getting experience like that will be vital.

The pay is shit, but the job is great.

 

Aye, it seems nigh on impossible to get a job in journalism at the minute. I've applied for the few trainee reporter roles that have popped up around the country but they've been getting around 200 applicants so I don't really stand a chance.

 

I've got another interview at CBI in a few weeks too, for a PR/Journalism role so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

 

Write articles and send them all over the place is another way.

 

If it was that simple then there wouldn't be loads of highly experience professionals on the scrap heap.

[Park Life 71]

Just got my results. 2:1 in BA (Hons) Journalism from Mackem Poly

 

If I didn't have an interview tomorrow i'd be out on the lash right now.

 

That's exactly the same result, course and dirty makem poly degree that I have..

 

We can probably talk at length about how shite the course is then

 

I'm fairly sure that when I did it it was the first year it was ever run. They cobbled together bits of media studies and Media production with a bit of journalism.

 

I have to say that concentrating on the basics of print journlism and getting that spot on would have been infinitely more useful in terms of preparing me for the world of work.

 

Is the job in journalism?

 

Sounds like it hasn't changed a bit

 

It's for a sixth month internship at the Sunderland Echo contributing to a multimedia journalism project they're running.

 

Good luck mate, it's very tough at the moment (there are loads of experienced people out of work) so getting experience like that will be vital.

The pay is shit, but the job is great.

 

Aye, it seems nigh on impossible to get a job in journalism at the minute. I've applied for the few trainee reporter roles that have popped up around the country but they've been getting around 200 applicants so I don't really stand a chance.

 

I've got another interview at CBI in a few weeks too, for a PR/Journalism role so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

 

Write articles and send them all over the place is another way.

 

If it was that simple then there wouldn't be loads of highly experience professionals on the scrap heap.

 

 

 

It won't help you thinking like that.

[The Fish 11080]

Just got my results. 2:1 in BA (Hons) Journalism from Mackem Poly

 

If I didn't have an interview tomorrow i'd be out on the lash right now.

 

That's exactly the same result, course and dirty makem poly degree that I have..

 

We can probably talk at length about how shite the course is then

 

I'm fairly sure that when I did it it was the first year it was ever run. They cobbled together bits of media studies and Media production with a bit of journalism.

 

I have to say that concentrating on the basics of print journlism and getting that spot on would have been infinitely more useful in terms of preparing me for the world of work.

 

Is the job in journalism?

 

Sounds like it hasn't changed a bit

 

It's for a sixth month internship at the Sunderland Echo contributing to a multimedia journalism project they're running.

 

Good luck mate, it's very tough at the moment (there are loads of experienced people out of work) so getting experience like that will be vital.

The pay is shit, but the job is great.

 

Aye, it seems nigh on impossible to get a job in journalism at the minute. I've applied for the few trainee reporter roles that have popped up around the country but they've been getting around 200 applicants so I don't really stand a chance.

 

I've got another interview at CBI in a few weeks too, for a PR/Journalism role so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

 

Write articles and send them all over the place is another way.

 

If it was that simple then there wouldn't be loads of highly experience professionals on the scrap heap.

 

 

 

It won't help you thinking like that.

 

 

No harm in getting articles out there though, but I wouldn't rely on it.

[Ketsbaia 0]

Obviously it's something i'm doing. I still write quite a bit for the FSF so it's not as if i'm not keeping myself busy and putting my work out there. However, it's not foolproof.

[Park Life 71]

Obviously it's something i'm doing. I still write quite a bit for the FSF so it's not as if i'm not keeping myself busy and putting my work out there. However, it's not foolproof.

 

I don't remember saying it was foolproof or easy. Just trying to help.

 

What areas do you want to write about/interested in?

[Ketsbaia 0]

Obviously it's something i'm doing. I still write quite a bit for the FSF so it's not as if i'm not keeping myself busy and putting my work out there. However, it's not foolproof.

 

I don't remember saying it was foolproof or easy. Just trying to help.

 

What areas do you want to write about/interested in?

 

I'm just remembering another conversation we had a few months back when you effectively said as much

 

Sports reporting and/or feature writing are what i'd eventually like to do but at the minute i'm willing to try my hand at just about anything.

[Happy Face 29]

Just got my results. 2:1 in BA (Hons) Journalism from Mackem Poly

 

If I didn't have an interview tomorrow i'd be out on the lash right now.

 

That's exactly the same result, course and dirty makem poly degree that I have..

 

We can probably talk at length about how shite the course is then

 

I'm fairly sure that when I did it it was the first year it was ever run. They cobbled together bits of media studies and Media production with a bit of journalism.

 

I have to say that concentrating on the basics of print journlism and getting that spot on would have been infinitely more useful in terms of preparing me for the world of work.

 

Is the job in journalism?

 

Sounds like it hasn't changed a bit

 

It's for a sixth month internship at the Sunderland Echo contributing to a multimedia journalism project they're running.

 

Good luck mate, it's very tough at the moment (there are loads of experienced people out of work) so getting experience like that will be vital.

The pay is shit, but the job is great.

 

Might as well do a degree in Blacksmithery.

 

[The Fish 11080]

Obviously it's something i'm doing. I still write quite a bit for the FSF so it's not as if i'm not keeping myself busy and putting my work out there. However, it's not foolproof.

 

I don't remember saying it was foolproof or easy. Just trying to help.

 

What areas do you want to write about/interested in?

 

I'm just remembering another conversation we had a few months back when you effectively said as much

 

Sports reporting and/or feature writing are what i'd eventually like to do but at the minute i'm willing to try my hand at just about anything.

 

 

Not a great time in any job market, but I hear that Journalist jobs are rocking horse shit rare.

 

 

hope this helps

 

(I can see if my mates in the business have any advice on what to do in the lean times?)

[donaldstott 0]

Obviously it's something i'm doing. I still write quite a bit for the FSF so it's not as if i'm not keeping myself busy and putting my work out there. However, it's not foolproof.

 

I don't remember saying it was foolproof or easy. Just trying to help.

 

What areas do you want to write about/interested in?

 

I'm just remembering another conversation we had a few months back when you effectively said as much

 

Sports reporting and/or feature writing are what i'd eventually like to do but at the minute i'm willing to try my hand at just about anything.

 

If I'm honest I would forget about sports reporting for the time being... More chance of being gang raped by a bus full of playboy bunnies than getting a job in that.

 

Start with news and features and take it from there, a couple of old colleauges (including me) made the move from news in to sport after several years experience. Most of them are now out of a job but that's a different story.

[Andrew 4969]

Bit late like but congrats smog, I've applied to go back to uni next year following my unceremonious booting in february

[Renton 22490]

Obviously it's something i'm doing. I still write quite a bit for the FSF so it's not as if i'm not keeping myself busy and putting my work out there. However, it's not foolproof.

 

I don't remember saying it was foolproof or easy. Just trying to help.

 

What areas do you want to write about/interested in?

 

I'm just remembering another conversation we had a few months back when you effectively said as much

 

Sports reporting and/or feature writing are what i'd eventually like to do but at the minute i'm willing to try my hand at just about anything.

 

If I'm honest I would forget about sports reporting for the time being... More chance of being gang raped by a bus full of playboy bunnies than getting a job in that.

 

Start with news and features and take it from there, a couple of old colleauges (including me) made the move from news in to sport after several years experience. Most of them are now out of a job but that's a different story.

 

Can I be really rude and ask what the pay is like in journalism (in a general sense). I get the impression it is quite poor, is this true?

[Park Life 71]

Obviously it's something i'm doing. I still write quite a bit for the FSF so it's not as if i'm not keeping myself busy and putting my work out there. However, it's not foolproof.

 

I don't remember saying it was foolproof or easy. Just trying to help.

 

What areas do you want to write about/interested in?

 

I'm just remembering another conversation we had a few months back when you effectively said as much

 

Sports reporting and/or feature writing are what i'd eventually like to do but at the minute i'm willing to try my hand at just about anything.

 

If it's sports reporting you have to specialise in one area ideally and don't just say football. Try and find a sporting area that is a little undersubscribed and by that I don't mean fencing or table tennis. You can get to the football desk later, the first goal is to get into the office.

 

Try and get into a newspaper and magazine perhaps not even as writer, that is the best way to get to know the people in there and who you need to impress and at the same time you are in a key position to strike (a few people are ill and the need to send someone to Marseilles in the morning etc..)

 

Start working on a second language as you can jump many a queue if you can be hired to live/report from somewhere in Europe.

 

Do you have any other area of expertise outside of sports if so, this is what I'd start banging out unsolicited articles about and hit smaller organisations with smaller budgets who are on the look out for cheap copy.

 

Try and forget all the shit you've just spent three years learning (getting key points into the first para and whatnot).

 

I don't know where you live but move to London.

Edited July 2, 2009 by Park Life

[donaldstott 0]

Obviously it's something i'm doing. I still write quite a bit for the FSF so it's not as if i'm not keeping myself busy and putting my work out there. However, it's not foolproof.

 

I don't remember saying it was foolproof or easy. Just trying to help.

 

What areas do you want to write about/interested in?

 

I'm just remembering another conversation we had a few months back when you effectively said as much

 

Sports reporting and/or feature writing are what i'd eventually like to do but at the minute i'm willing to try my hand at just about anything.

 

If I'm honest I would forget about sports reporting for the time being... More chance of being gang raped by a bus full of playboy bunnies than getting a job in that.

 

Start with news and features and take it from there, a couple of old colleauges (including me) made the move from news in to sport after several years experience. Most of them are now out of a job but that's a different story.

 

Can I be really rude and ask what the pay is like in journalism (in a general sense). I get the impression it is quite poor, is this true?

 

I only know about the radio side but I started on something like £12k and eventually after 4 years it crept up towards 15k. I went for a job interview at a radio station in Ipswich for a job as news editor. Given that it would involve moving down south I asked for 21k, they basically laughed at me and told me that would make me the best paid news editor in the group.

 

Don't get me wrong there are people earning an awful lot more than that but it's a question of how long you can wait before the BBC or a national come knocking.

 

I now work in PR.

[donaldstott 0]

I don't know where you live but move to London.

 

A good bit of advice, although it does make paying the bills that little bit more stressful.

 

Get good at networking, most of the people I know have a second string to their bow, be it writing for otheer publications, reporting on foreign stations or doing some freelance PR work.

[Gemmill 47212]

I would just turn up at Thomson House and tell them you're here take over from the cretinous Lee Ryder. Take some of your GCSE coursework to prove you're the better man.

[Park Life 71]

I would just turn up at Thomson House and tell them you're here take over from the cretinous Lee Ryder. Take some of your GCSE coursework to prove you're the better man.

[Renton 22490]

Obviously it's something i'm doing. I still write quite a bit for the FSF so it's not as if i'm not keeping myself busy and putting my work out there. However, it's not foolproof.

 

I don't remember saying it was foolproof or easy. Just trying to help.

 

What areas do you want to write about/interested in?

 

I'm just remembering another conversation we had a few months back when you effectively said as much

 

Sports reporting and/or feature writing are what i'd eventually like to do but at the minute i'm willing to try my hand at just about anything.

 

If I'm honest I would forget about sports reporting for the time being... More chance of being gang raped by a bus full of playboy bunnies than getting a job in that.

 

Start with news and features and take it from there, a couple of old colleauges (including me) made the move from news in to sport after several years experience. Most of them are now out of a job but that's a different story.

 

Can I be really rude and ask what the pay is like in journalism (in a general sense). I get the impression it is quite poor, is this true?

 

I only know about the radio side but I started on something like £12k and eventually after 4 years it crept up towards 15k. I went for a job interview at a radio station in Ipswich for a job as news editor. Given that it would involve moving down south I asked for 21k, they basically laughed at me and told me that would make me the best paid news editor in the group.

 

Don't get me wrong there are people earning an awful lot more than that but it's a question of how long you can wait before the BBC or a national come knocking.

 

I now work in PR.

 

Cheers, that's pretty much what I would have guessed at. Definitely a career more motivated by job satisfaction than money then.

[donaldstott 0]

Obviously it's something i'm doing. I still write quite a bit for the FSF so it's not as if i'm not keeping myself busy and putting my work out there. However, it's not foolproof.

 

I don't remember saying it was foolproof or easy. Just trying to help.

 

What areas do you want to write about/interested in?

 

I'm just remembering another conversation we had a few months back when you effectively said as much

 

Sports reporting and/or feature writing are what i'd eventually like to do but at the minute i'm willing to try my hand at just about anything.

 

If I'm honest I would forget about sports reporting for the time being... More chance of being gang raped by a bus full of playboy bunnies than getting a job in that.

 

Start with news and features and take it from there, a couple of old colleauges (including me) made the move from news in to sport after several years experience. Most of them are now out of a job but that's a different story.

 

Can I be really rude and ask what the pay is like in journalism (in a general sense). I get the impression it is quite poor, is this true?

 

I only know about the radio side but I started on something like £12k and eventually after 4 years it crept up towards 15k. I went for a job interview at a radio station in Ipswich for a job as news editor. Given that it would involve moving down south I asked for 21k, they basically laughed at me and told me that would make me the best paid news editor in the group.

 

Don't get me wrong there are people earning an awful lot more than that but it's a question of how long you can wait before the BBC or a national come knocking.

 

I now work in PR.

 

Cheers, that's pretty much what I would have guessed at. Definitely a career more motivated by job satisfaction than money then.

 

Too right. I loved the job, one day I'd be interviewing the father of a murdered girl, then a girl band, then footballers on a Friday.

 

The problem was that i had to work a second job, so 16-20 hour days were not unusual and even then i was struggling to pay the bills.

[The Fish 11080]

I don't know where you live but move to London.

 

A good bit of advice, although it does make paying the bills that little bit more stressful.

 

Get good at networking, most of the people I know have a second string to their bow, be it writing for otheer publications, reporting on foreign stations or doing some freelance PR work.

 

to be honest that's just good practise for everyone entering the job market.

[Ketsbaia 0]

Obviously it's something i'm doing. I still write quite a bit for the FSF so it's not as if i'm not keeping myself busy and putting my work out there. However, it's not foolproof.

 

I don't remember saying it was foolproof or easy. Just trying to help.

 

What areas do you want to write about/interested in?

 

I'm just remembering another conversation we had a few months back when you effectively said as much

 

Sports reporting and/or feature writing are what i'd eventually like to do but at the minute i'm willing to try my hand at just about anything.

 

If I'm honest I would forget about sports reporting for the time being... More chance of being gang raped by a bus full of playboy bunnies than getting a job in that.

 

Start with news and features and take it from there, a couple of old colleauges (including me) made the move from news in to sport after several years experience. Most of them are now out of a job but that's a different story.

 

Aye, sport always seems to be something you move into rather than start in so i'm ready to do my time on the news desk writing about cowboys builders and cats stuck up trees. It would be nice to be derided on here and other boards for my shoddy NUFC reporting one day though

 

PR is something i'm actively looking to get into too as there seems to be more chance of a job but even they're closing ranks at the minute. Any suggestions?