Park Life 71 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 They (Iran) are already trying to make mileage from the election fiasco. Now trying to used it as ammunition against the EU for their nuclear program....... it would be laughable if it wasn't likely to work. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8128858.stm I think they already have a nuke fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Show trial incoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 They (Iran) are already trying to make mileage from the election fiasco. Now trying to used it as ammunition against the EU for their nuclear program....... it would be laughable if it wasn't likely to work. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8128858.stm I think they already have a nuke fwiw. news to me oh elf-meister they have a nuclear reactor fo' sure but no sign of a bucket of instant sunshine yet............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 They (Iran) are already trying to make mileage from the election fiasco. Now trying to used it as ammunition against the EU for their nuclear program....... it would be laughable if it wasn't likely to work. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8128858.stm I think they already have a nuke fwiw. news to me oh elf-meister they have a nuclear reactor fo' sure but no sign of a bucket of instant sunshine yet............ They have one bomb they can drop or set off.....I have this from a very good Russian source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 reckon they are going to try the ol' Trojan Horse trick on Netanyahooo? maybe hijack an El Al plane, quick modification job and allow the brave Zionists to "rescue it" and take it back home..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 reckon they are going to try the ol' Trojan Horse trick on Netanyahooo? maybe hijack an El Al plane, quick modification job and allow the brave Zionists to "rescue it" and take it back home..................... Yup. Without a doubt Iran (or the Dinnerjacket brigade at least) would kill every single Palestinian in a nuclear holocaust if it furthered their political ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 reckon they are going to try the ol' Trojan Horse trick on Netanyahooo? maybe hijack an El Al plane, quick modification job and allow the brave Zionists to "rescue it" and take it back home..................... Yup. Without a doubt Iran (or the Dinnerjacket brigade at least) would kill every single Palestinian in a nuclear holocaust if it furthered their political ends. Poppycock!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 reckon they are going to try the ol' Trojan Horse trick on Netanyahooo? maybe hijack an El Al plane, quick modification job and allow the brave Zionists to "rescue it" and take it back home..................... Yup. Without a doubt Iran (or the Dinnerjacket brigade at least) would kill every single Palestinian in a nuclear holocaust if it furthered their political ends. Poppycock!! Instead of all those weapons they supply they could be sending a lot of aid with the same money. And look at the historical (even recent) issues, Iran would likely be fighting with whatever country controlled the area, if it was part of an "Arab" state. Iran's interest in the area is one of convenience, no more no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 wellll - it is in their back yard - a bit like the Yanks in C America or the Rooshans in the Caucasus people get concerned about the activities of their neighbours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 wellll - it is in their back yard - a bit like the Yanks in C America or the Rooshans in the Caucasus people get concerned about the activities of their neighbours Aye and Iran historically tries to kick the shit out of their Arab "neighbours" wherever possible (in fact it's funny you should mention the Caucasus in a discussion about Iran and what it would like to control again). Actually Iran (or it's Persian fore-runner at least) has captured and ruled the area almost to the current Israel/Palestine eastern border before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 and vice versa The arabs have often overrun Persia (or large parts of it) the place has a very long history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Have Iran attacked anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Have Iran attacked anyone? The Greeks but it was a long time ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Have Iran attacked anyone? The Greeks but it was a long time ago Took em a week to get the better of 300 apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Share Posted July 8, 2009 they had Ashley managing them.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Have Iran attacked anyone? They haven't got their nuke yet, give them time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 "the most free election held anywhere in the world" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11080 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 It's the delusion that I cannot understand. How, when the world is watching and their people have access to foreign media sources, can they make such incongruous claims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Iran learns from past to crush dissent Supporters of Mir Hossein Mousavi 18.6.09 Mass protests in the days following the election have been stopped or disrupted By Jon Leyne BBC Tehran correspondent As opposition demonstrators came out in force after Iran's disputed presidential election, one exhilarated protester declared that his country was waking up. Two nights ago someone told me that Tehran was now in a coma. The mood swing could not be more dramatic, as the security and intelligence forces move to regain control. Normally gregarious Iranians are afraid to speak in public places for fear that their words might be misinterpreted and relayed back to the authorities. In the immediate aftermath of the disputed election result, the Iranian government appeared wrong-footed, astonished by the strength of protests. An uncompromising speech by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei on 19 June - a week after the election - signalled that any doubts were over. What has happened since then has been described as a crackdown. But it is clear that the leaders of the Islamic Republic have taken their own lessons from the way they took power in 1979. Burning police station in Tehran 11.2.79 Clerics are paying attention to the street anger, similar to that in 1979 The unrest that led to the fall of the Shah spiralled out of control. Any time a demonstrator was shot there were more protests at the funeral and at the "arbayeen", the 40-day anniversary of the death. Indecision on the part of the Shah only made his position weaker. This time the Iranian security forces are trying to use the military principle of "minimum force". They have been largely, though not entirely, avoiding the use of live fire. Instead the police and the government's Basij militia have tried to spread fear, with mass arrests, repeated warnings in the media against unauthorised demonstrations, plenty of violence against demonstrators, but mostly not lethal force. When protesters are killed, the families are prevented from holding public mourning ceremonies. It has also become increasingly clear that the Revolutionary Guards are crucial in the crackdown. Control of security In a weekend news conference the head of the guards, Gen Mohammad Ali Jafari, came out publicly for the first time and announced that the guards had been given the task of controlling the internal security situation. "This event pushed us into a new phase of the revolution," he said ominously. "We have to understand all its dimensions." In other words - the Revolutionary Guards are in control. That is the culmination of a trend that began as long ago as 1989, when Ayatollah Khamenei succeeded Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic Republic. Lacking the religious credentials, or the charisma, of his predecessor, Mr Khamenei built up a power base in the Revolutionary Guards. Since Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was first elected four years ago, commentators have seen an acceleration of that trend, with the guards now assigned multi-billion dollar contracts to help secure their loyalty. Plain clothes police beat a protester 14.6.09 Demonstrators have been on the receiving end of violence As much as two years ago, some western diplomats were talking about a slow and silent military coup taking place. The power of the clergy has been steadily diminished. So it should be no surprise that many senior ayatollahs and many members of parliament - the majlis - are deeply uneasy about what is going on. For the moment, opposition and government have reached deadlock. Public resentment means that even now, sporadic protests are continuing and there is a sense of burning anger amongst many Iranians about the election and what happened afterwards. Even now, enough protesters gathering together on the streets could potentially overwhelm the security forces, or at least make them increase the use of force in ways that could be counter-productive to the regime. But there is no clear strategy on how to achieve that. At the same time the government faces the possibility of further challenges to its legitimacy, from the clerics and from the parliament. Consolidating power is going to be difficult. For the foreseeable future this is going to be a government that relies on force or the threat of force. The Islamic Republic will look much more like a traditional military dictatorship. Elusive enemy Ideally for them a new foreign threat might emerge. Already the government has tried to portray the protests as instigated by the West. But President Barack Obama makes an elusive enemy. On Thursday US forces even released five Iranian diplomats held in Iraq, removing a long-running sore between the two countries. It is still possible that Mr Ahmadinejad's government will restore order and appear to rule as before. There is no doubt he has a hard core of several million intensely loyal supporters, including members of the Revolutionary Guards and the Basij militia. But the Islamic Republic has been badly damaged, already change has begun, and it is hard to see how it will end. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8143279.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share Posted July 10, 2009 It's the delusion that I cannot understand. How, when the world is watching and their people have access to foreign media sources, can they make such incongruous claims? lets see............... some other ridiculous statements "The British Parliament is the envy of the World" "We're a top class football club" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8175764.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Raped in jail for protesting - no big deal of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 It's not getting any quieter over there - Dinner jacket and his mates are starting to act like the late lamented Shah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Top Iran reform figures on trial Opposition supporters have denounced the sessions as "show trials" The trial has begun in Iran of a number of senior opposition figures following June's disputed presidential election. The defendants, who include former ministers in the 1997-2005 Khatami government, are accused of conspiring with foreign powers to organise unrest. Two leading economists are also on trial, Saeed Leylaz and Kian Tajbaksh. It is the fourth such trial since the disputed re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a conservative, sparked pro-reform street protests. BBC Tehran correspondent Jon Leyne - who was expelled after the elections - says the trial looks like a public denunciation of President Mohammed Khatami's time in power, with the government trying to frighten the opposition into silence. IRAN UNREST12 June Presidential election saw incumbent Mahmoud Ahmadinejad re-elected with 63% of vote Main challenger Mir Hossein Mousavi called for result to be annulled, alleging poll fraud Mass street protests saw at least 30 people killed and foreign media restricted Hardliners are currently also pressing for the arrest of the two leading opposition candidates in the election, Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi. The court proceedings are open only to Iranian news agencies and have been denounced as "show trials" by opposition leaders. The 20 people in the dock on Tuesday included former Deputy Interior Minister Mostafa Tajzadeh, former Deputy Foreign Minister Mohsen Aminzadeh and former government spokesman Abdollah Ramezanzadeh, reports said. The leading reformist Saeed Hajjarian, a former city councillor and a close aide to former president, Mr Khatami, was also in court. A statement was read out for him by another defendant, apparently for health reasons, saying sorry for "major mistakes" he had made in his analysis of the election. "I apologise to the great Iranian nation... and resign from the Islamic Iran Participation Front (the main opposition party, also known as Mosharekat) and announce my complete adherence to the constitution and... to the supreme leader," he was quoted saying. Opposition groups alleged widespread vote-rigging in the June election, which Mr Ahmadinejad won by a landslide. Post-election protests saw the largest mass demonstrations in Iran since the 1979 revolution, which brought to power the current Islamic system of government. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8219782.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Shouldn't really let people vote anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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