LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 Looking forward to seeing Dave view this thread. Fuck me, what it's like to be an 81 year old senile fool on an internet forum eh? what's it like to be fool who can't read someone's profile, never mind reading their posts and admitting they got everything right about the old despicable board ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 Good Post = Anything that conforms to Leazes narrow view of the world regardless of quality or relevance aye, or his most extreme example of it: "Good post, Fop" = Christ, now I really am getting desperate. ah diddums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 An invaluable resource. British Soldier - Heroic Angel beyond reproach Gays - canny lads but not appropriate shower buddies/soldiers/parents/role models. Anyone who ever said nuclear weapons weren't a good idea - Soviet spy. are you referring to my post about Clare Short ? I'm right you know. Again, although you may not "agree" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 (edited) He gets a hard press Leazes, although am surprised there was no translation of there's Dave watching again. I like him but he brings a lot of it on himself. Shame because he's got some good craic, especially about NUFC down the years. Never hear it now though. All you ever hear is about Shepherd, Dave and Terrorists(Muslims) He's the kind of fella who could write about some glorious memories, and do so with passion and colour, and in so doing really add perspective to younger fans who weren't around to see Keegan's rescue of the club, let alone any kind of trophy success. But instead he is stuck on some crusade, yearning for everybody to irrationally forget about the bad times under Shepherd and Hall and look upon those times with rose tinted glasses. you bite every time I'm still right though. Aren't I. Which is why it's so easy even if I don't intend to. Edited February 3, 2010 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 An invaluable resource. British Soldier - Heroic Angel beyond reproach Gays - canny lads but not appropriate shower buddies/soldiers/parents/role models. Anyone who ever said nuclear weapons weren't a good idea - Soviet spy. are you referring to my post about Clare Short ? I'm right you know. Again, although you may not "agree" Tony Benn as well - which really shows your ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 An invaluable resource. British Soldier - Heroic Angel beyond reproach Gays - canny lads but not appropriate shower buddies/soldiers/parents/role models. Anyone who ever said nuclear weapons weren't a good idea - Soviet spy. are you referring to my post about Clare Short ? I'm right you know. Again, although you may not "agree" Tony Benn as well - which really shows your ignorance. Remind me what I said about Clare Short, and Tony Benn too if you like, make sure you read the posts properly. If you seriously think CND had nothing to do with Soviet Russia and its old eastern satellite countries, it is you who is ignorant my friend. Seriouisly ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 What you getting at Leazes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 (edited) I was too young to fully understand CND as it was an 80s thing, but I didn't think it was politically influenced, I just thought it was ordinary people campaigning for nuclear disarmament, because of the unimaginable threat of nuclear destruction. Edited February 3, 2010 by Stevie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 I was too young to fully understand CND as it was an 80s thing, but I didn't think it was politically influenced, I just thought it was ordinary people campaigning for nuclear disarmament, because of the unimaginable threat of nuclear destruction. CND certainly was politicially influenced Stevie. Lots of gullible people jumped onto it but it contained lots of Soviet Russia sympathisers and supporters, including Russian ones...... Soviet Russia would have been very pleased if we had dropped all our nuclear weapons ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 I was too young to fully understand CND as it was an 80s thing, but I didn't think it was politically influenced, I just thought it was ordinary people campaigning for nuclear disarmament, because of the unimaginable threat of nuclear destruction. CND certainly was politicially influenced Stevie. Lots of gullible people jumped onto it but it contained lots of Soviet Russia sympathisers and supporters, including Russian ones...... Soviet Russia would have been very pleased if we had dropped all our nuclear weapons ....... Just as we'd be pleased if Russia dropped all of their surely? Surely the aims of CMD were unilateral disarmament. I don't know why we'd have supporters of USSR here, was a bit of a boom the late 80s here, and they were queuing for stale bread for hours. The world could see socialism in their form was never working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 (edited) I was too young to fully understand CND as it was an 80s thing, but I didn't think it was politically influenced, I just thought it was ordinary people campaigning for nuclear disarmament, because of the unimaginable threat of nuclear destruction. CND certainly was politicially influenced Stevie. Lots of gullible people jumped onto it but it contained lots of Soviet Russia sympathisers and supporters, including Russian ones...... Soviet Russia would have been very pleased if we had dropped all our nuclear weapons ....... Just as we'd be pleased if Russia dropped all of their surely? Surely the aims of CMD were unilateral disarmament. I don't know why we'd have supporters of USSR here, was a bit of a boom the late 80s here, and they were queuing for stale bread for hours. The world could see socialism in their form was never working. of course we would, but witness Russia's continued and expanding presence in europe resulting in the old eastern bloc and spread of their communist regime.......we needed weapons to defend but they were only too happy to use their military offensively and had shown it many times. The unilateral disarmament was the key phrase. CND supporters thought if we laid down our weapons, the Russians would have laid down theirs BTW mate, this started from the end of the 2nd world war and effectively ended in 1985 ie "perestroika" - it was the beginning of the end anyway. Edited February 3, 2010 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 No they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 I was too young to fully understand CND as it was an 80s thing, but I didn't think it was politically influenced, I just thought it was ordinary people campaigning for nuclear disarmament, because of the unimaginable threat of nuclear destruction. CND certainly was politicially influenced Stevie. Lots of gullible people jumped onto it but it contained lots of Soviet Russia sympathisers and supporters, including Russian ones...... Soviet Russia would have been very pleased if we had dropped all our nuclear weapons ....... If you think for one nanosecond that but for british nuclear weapons, the Soviet Union would have invaded or done anything different ever then I think you're daft. The reasons the cold war ended was economic - on both sides - it was all just a complete waste of time in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 No they didn't. yes they did ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 I was too young to fully understand CND as it was an 80s thing, but I didn't think it was politically influenced, I just thought it was ordinary people campaigning for nuclear disarmament, because of the unimaginable threat of nuclear destruction. CND certainly was politicially influenced Stevie. Lots of gullible people jumped onto it but it contained lots of Soviet Russia sympathisers and supporters, including Russian ones...... Soviet Russia would have been very pleased if we had dropped all our nuclear weapons ....... Just as we'd be pleased if Russia dropped all of their surely? Surely the aims of CMD were unilateral disarmament. I don't know why we'd have supporters of USSR here, was a bit of a boom the late 80s here, and they were queuing for stale bread for hours. The world could see socialism in their form was never working. of course we would, but witness Russia's continued and expanding presence in europe resulting in the old eastern bloc and spread of their communist regime.......we needed weapons to defend but they were only too happy to use their military offensively and had shown it many times. The unilateral disarmament was the key phrase. CND supporters thought if we laid down our weapons, the Russians would have laid down theirs BTW mate, this started from the end of the 2nd world war and effectively ended in 1985 ie "perestroika" - it was the beginning of the end anyway. Where when and how did they use military force after WWII? Then compare that with US military operations post WWII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 I was too young to fully understand CND as it was an 80s thing, but I didn't think it was politically influenced, I just thought it was ordinary people campaigning for nuclear disarmament, because of the unimaginable threat of nuclear destruction. CND certainly was politicially influenced Stevie. Lots of gullible people jumped onto it but it contained lots of Soviet Russia sympathisers and supporters, including Russian ones...... Soviet Russia would have been very pleased if we had dropped all our nuclear weapons ....... If you think for one nanosecond that but for british nuclear weapons, the Soviet Union would have invaded or done anything different ever then I think you're daft. The reasons the cold war ended was economic - on both sides - it was all just a complete waste of time in the end. ah. The end of the communist dream. Please explain why the Russians invaded all of eastern europe ....... CND were gullible fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 The unilateral disarmament was the key phrase. CND supporters thought if we laid down our weapons, the Russians would have laid down theirs Some did - some just thought they wera a waste of money which was proven the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 What you getting at Leazes? That old lark about CND being funded by the commies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 No they didn't. yes they did ! Can you supply anything to back that up? By 'that' I mean that CND believed the Soviet Union would get rid of all their weapons once the UK had done the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 I was too young to fully understand CND as it was an 80s thing, but I didn't think it was politically influenced, I just thought it was ordinary people campaigning for nuclear disarmament, because of the unimaginable threat of nuclear destruction. CND certainly was politicially influenced Stevie. Lots of gullible people jumped onto it but it contained lots of Soviet Russia sympathisers and supporters, including Russian ones...... Soviet Russia would have been very pleased if we had dropped all our nuclear weapons ....... Just as we'd be pleased if Russia dropped all of their surely? Surely the aims of CMD were unilateral disarmament. I don't know why we'd have supporters of USSR here, was a bit of a boom the late 80s here, and they were queuing for stale bread for hours. The world could see socialism in their form was never working. of course we would, but witness Russia's continued and expanding presence in europe resulting in the old eastern bloc and spread of their communist regime.......we needed weapons to defend but they were only too happy to use their military offensively and had shown it many times. The unilateral disarmament was the key phrase. CND supporters thought if we laid down our weapons, the Russians would have laid down theirs BTW mate, this started from the end of the 2nd world war and effectively ended in 1985 ie "perestroika" - it was the beginning of the end anyway. Where when and how did they use military force after WWII? Then compare that with US military operations post WWII. We aren't talking about the US we are talking about the spread of Russian forces in eastern europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 ah. The end of the communist dream. Please explain why the Russians invaded all of eastern europe ....... CND were gullible fools. They didn't invade anywhere post 1945 - they just stayed in the countries theyd liberated from Gemany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 We aren't talking about the US we are talking about the spread of Russian forces in eastern europe. So why weren't the US deterred by the Russian weapons? - the point is the deterrent was a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 No they didn't. yes they did ! Can you supply anything to back that up? By 'that' I mean that CND believed the Soviet Union would get rid of all their weapons once the UK had done the same. Do you mean I should be looking for a comment by Kruschev promising to give up its arsenal if we did the same ? The CND "wanted" unilateral disarmement because they were gullible. The Russians would never have laid down their military machine back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Losing it in his dotage tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 We aren't talking about the US we are talking about the spread of Russian forces in eastern europe. So why weren't the US deterred by the Russian weapons? - the point is the deterrent was a lie. is this your anti west stance kicking in again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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