BNP wins seats

[Meenzer 15716]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

[AgentAxeman 189]

The jobs are also available to the indigenous British as well you know. Maybe if they were less lazy and more driven they get off their arses and apply for them? Instead of a society of "what does the country owe me" if we had a society of proactivity there'd be no jobs for immigrants because our population want to work.

 

 

hmmmmmmmmmmm, again, close but no cigar. whilst i will fully admit there are lazy bastards in this country i dont think its endemic of the population as a whole. I think im right in saying that there was virtually no unemployment in this country before the first mass wave of immigrants arrived in the late 60's. now there is mass unemployment. do the math man!

 

and also, the socialist powers that be effectively pay a lot of claimants to stay on the dole. whereby taking a job would mean a drop in income. the system is properly fucked up.

 

step 1 - create unemployment

step 2 - fill gaps in market with imported labour

step 3 - keep an underclass who can be relied upon to vote whomever pays the most dole every time

 

repeat ad infin...

 

in essence, i dont think its as cut and dried as you are trying to make it Fish

 

 

Capitalism was in boom in the 60's.

 

 

what about the 50's. dont think there was much unemployment then either. point being the unemployment level started to rise in the early 70's

[Park Life 71]

The jobs are also available to the indigenous British as well you know. Maybe if they were less lazy and more driven they get off their arses and apply for them? Instead of a society of "what does the country owe me" if we had a society of proactivity there'd be no jobs for immigrants because our population want to work.

 

 

hmmmmmmmmmmm, again, close but no cigar. whilst i will fully admit there are lazy bastards in this country i dont think its endemic of the population as a whole. I think im right in saying that there was virtually no unemployment in this country before the first mass wave of immigrants arrived in the late 60's. now there is mass unemployment. do the math man!

 

and also, the socialist powers that be effectively pay a lot of claimants to stay on the dole. whereby taking a job would mean a drop in income. the system is properly fucked up.

 

step 1 - create unemployment

step 2 - fill gaps in market with imported labour

step 3 - keep an underclass who can be relied upon to vote whomever pays the most dole every time

 

repeat ad infin...

 

in essence, i dont think its as cut and dried as you are trying to make it Fish

 

 

Capitalism was in boom in the 60's.

 

 

what about the 50's. dont think there was much unemployment then either. point being the unemployment level started to rise in the early 70's

 

We had hostage economies in Asia and Africa and China hadn't started to make everything.

[LeazesMag 0]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

do they demonstrate on the streets of Spain against the showing of the spanish flag, heckle Spanish troops when they return from a tour of duty, shout for the death of Spanish people and bomb shopping centres because they don't get their own way

[Park Life 71]

Leazes why am I forbidden to generalise about the lazy dole wallowing British, but you can about Muslims?

 

I'm not attempting to stop you, I said there are lazy Brits because there are. I said that those who are shown to not want to work should have benefits cut/stopped or restricted to a maximum amount so it doesn't pay them to choose not to work.

 

Muslims attempting to force their culture on us can fuck off.

 

Foreigners out to milk the benefit system and are not prepared to learn English can fuck off.

 

You can't defend these people being allowed to live in this country, which is what some of you are trying to do.

 

And we should put our house in order and realise the dangers of overpopulating the country, especially where there is already not enough money for education, the Health Service, defence etc etc...

 

How is the NHS gong to work?

 

 

do you advocate private health care for all regardless of if you can afford it or not ?

 

I refer you once again to my question.

[AgentAxeman 189]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

 

yeah but virtually all of them dont take anything in benefits as they are retired. in fact they are putting into the local economy at no cost to the tax payer.

 

edit: and as LM said they dont try and force there way of life on a resistant public

Edited January 29, 2010 by AgentAxeman

[Park Life 71]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

do they demonstrate on the streets of Spain against the showing of the spanish flag, heckle Spanish troops when they return from a tour of duty, shout for the death of Spanish people and bomb shopping centres because they don't get their own way

 

They can't cause they're not Spanish.

[Meenzer 15716]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

do they demonstrate on the streets of Spain against the showing of the spanish flag, heckle Spanish troops when they return from a tour of duty, shout for the death of Spanish people and bomb shopping centres because they don't get their own way

 

No, but then nor do 99.9+% of British Muslims. That's not really your point, though, is it?

[AgentAxeman 189]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

do they demonstrate on the streets of Spain against the showing of the spanish flag, heckle Spanish troops when they return from a tour of duty, shout for the death of Spanish people and bomb shopping centres because they don't get their own way

 

They can't cause they're not Spanish.

 

 

so by that logic, people from another country who move here arent British? yet they still can protest? bit confused by that statement Parky

[Meenzer 15716]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

 

yeah but virtually all of them dont take anything in benefits as they are retired. in fact they are putting into the local economy at no cost to the tax payer.

 

edit: and as LM said they dont try and force there way of life on a resistant public

Be honest now. Have you ever been in a situation where a British Muslim has tried to force their way of life on you? Honestly now?

[The Fish 10963]

AA I don't think it is cut and dried at all. It's an incredibly complicated and complex issue, sometime emotive sometimes contentious.

 

However whenever we left wing sandalistas bring broad viewpoints we're dismissed as "intellectuals" and "out of touch", when we simplify things, we're naive and idiotic.

 

I think healthy immigration and emigration are important for all nations, I think cultural identity is important to all nations, I believe integration is important and I think diversification is important. I want all these things but refuse to be contemptuous of an entire religion off the back of the behaviour of a few. I refuse to write off a people because of the irrational fear mongering that serves no purpose other than to sell news papers.

 

I tire of being called unpatriotic ecause how I love my country isn't the same way as the people who wan to shut borders and eject aslyum seekers do.

 

I am tired of facts and figures from one source being labelled sound an reliable, but another (similar) source is hillocks.

 

Leazes isn't interested in an exchange of ideals. He wants a platform from which to spew his hateful message. If he were Muslim he'd be a fan of ol'Hookferhands Hamza. Bilious and blinkered, inciteful without insight.

 

Most of all I'm annoyed that I still feel the need to answer his insanity

[Meenzer 15716]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

do they demonstrate on the streets of Spain against the showing of the spanish flag, heckle Spanish troops when they return from a tour of duty, shout for the death of Spanish people and bomb shopping centres because they don't get their own way

 

They can't cause they're not Spanish.

 

 

so by that logic, people from another country who move here arent British? yet they still can protest? bit confused by that statement Parky

 

No, you dolt. People who move to Spain to retire aren't Spanish; people who are born to Brits are British. It's not rocket science.

[Park Life 71]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

do they demonstrate on the streets of Spain against the showing of the spanish flag, heckle Spanish troops when they return from a tour of duty, shout for the death of Spanish people and bomb shopping centres because they don't get their own way

 

They can't cause they're not Spanish.

 

 

so by that logic, people from another country who move here arent British? yet they still can protest? bit confused by that statement Parky

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but nearly all expats still hold UK passports, whereas most Muslim protestors etc are British by birth. I see you and LM have deftly avoided the questions about the NHS and the various epochs of caring capitalism with regard to employment and labour. The pair of you need to read at least one book between you.

Edited January 29, 2010 by Park Life

[AgentAxeman 189]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

 

yeah but virtually all of them dont take anything in benefits as they are retired. in fact they are putting into the local economy at no cost to the tax payer.

 

edit: and as LM said they dont try and force there way of life on a resistant public

Be honest now. Have you ever been in a situation where a British Muslim has tried to force their way of life on you? Honestly now?

 

 

yes, i was told that eating bacon was against god (true story).

[Meenzer 15716]

France and Germany have lost their identity since adopting the euro. Discuss.

[LeazesMag 0]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

 

yeah but virtually all of them dont take anything in benefits as they are retired. in fact they are putting into the local economy at no cost to the tax payer.

 

edit: and as LM said they dont try and force there way of life on a resistant public

Be honest now. Have you ever been in a situation where a British Muslim has tried to force their way of life on you? Honestly now?

 

Give over. That is like saying just because you have never met an axe murderer they don't exist

[Meenzer 15716]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

 

yeah but virtually all of them dont take anything in benefits as they are retired. in fact they are putting into the local economy at no cost to the tax payer.

 

edit: and as LM said they dont try and force there way of life on a resistant public

Be honest now. Have you ever been in a situation where a British Muslim has tried to force their way of life on you? Honestly now?

 

 

yes, i was told that eating bacon was against god (true story).

 

And did a beardy chap block the aisles at Tesco to stop you eating bacon? I grew up being told that God existed in the first place. Bit of a bugger, that.

[Meenzer 15716]

It's lazy shorthand.

 

I like to think there are forums for football clubs like Malaga, say, where the LeazesMag equivalents bemoan the unwillingness of the tens of thousands of Brits on the Costa del Sol to make any effort to integrate beyond paying for their fried breakfasts in euros. Bunch of do-gooders that they are.

 

 

yeah but virtually all of them dont take anything in benefits as they are retired. in fact they are putting into the local economy at no cost to the tax payer.

 

edit: and as LM said they dont try and force there way of life on a resistant public

Be honest now. Have you ever been in a situation where a British Muslim has tried to force their way of life on you? Honestly now?

 

Give over. That is like saying just because you have never met an axe murderer they don't exist

 

No, it's like living in fear of axe murderers just because you read about them in a newspaper once.

[tooner 243]

tooner........how somebody thinks they know about NUFC never mind the BNP

 

 

hit a nerve did I?

 

haha not in the slightest. You may think you know all about the UK,which you don't, but I can state quite categorically your knowledge of NUFC is zilch in comparison to me..........

 

 

full agreement with you there LM, however that is not the topic and nor has it ever been my opinion that I know more about NUFC than you or anyone else on this board.......your rampant xenophobia is exceeded only by your level of douche-baggery

 

hit a nerve did I

 

 

not at all, but your attempt to draw attention away from your own prejudices and your knee jerk reactions to a percieved threat from immigrants, by pointing out that you know more about NUFC than I do makes you look like a even more of a complete twat

[Guest Stevie]

tooner........how somebody thinks they know about NUFC never mind the BNP

 

 

hit a nerve did I?

 

haha not in the slightest. You may think you know all about the UK,which you don't, but I can state quite categorically your knowledge of NUFC is zilch in comparison to me..........

 

 

full agreement with you there LM, however that is not the topic and nor has it ever been my opinion that I know more about NUFC than you or anyone else on this board.......your rampant xenophobia is exceeded only by your level of douche-baggery

 

hit a nerve did I

 

 

not at all, but your attempt to draw attention away from your own prejudices and your knee jerk reactions to a percieved threat from immigrants, by pointing out that you know more about NUFC than I do makes you look like a even more of a complete twat

I didn't realise yanks used twat as a derogatory term. I didn't even realise they used cunt as a derogatory term till Sam Ace Rothstein called Ginger a cunt when she kidnapped the kid.

[tooner 243]

tooner........how somebody thinks they know about NUFC never mind the BNP

 

 

hit a nerve did I?

 

haha not in the slightest. You may think you know all about the UK,which you don't, but I can state quite categorically your knowledge of NUFC is zilch in comparison to me..........

 

 

full agreement with you there LM, however that is not the topic and nor has it ever been my opinion that I know more about NUFC than you or anyone else on this board.......your rampant xenophobia is exceeded only by your level of douche-baggery

 

hit a nerve did I

 

 

not at all, but your attempt to draw attention away from your own prejudices and your knee jerk reactions to a percieved threat from immigrants, by pointing out that you know more about NUFC than I do makes you look like a even more of a complete twat

I didn't realise yanks used twat as a derogatory term. I didn't even realise they used cunt as a derogatory term till Sam Ace Rothstein called Ginger a cunt when she kidnapped the kid.

 

I feel like i'm beating a dead horse here stevie, there is a lot of things that occur outside the UK that you have no idea about. I've been using twat since i was a kid ( i would've said bairn but i had to look that one up when i first joined the board) when a guy my mom dated introduced me to the flying circus and to fawlty towers. crazy eh? (note the particular canadianism)

[Meenzer 15716]

Correct me if I'm wrong but nearly all expats still hold UK passports, whereas most Muslim protestors etc are British by birth. I see you and LM have deftly avoided the questions about the NHS and the various epochs of caring capitalism with regard to employment and labour. The pair of you need to read at least one book between you.

 

*MEEEEEEP* *MEEEEEEEP*

 

Endgame. You mentioned being brainwashed by books and similar left-wing propaganda. These people have life experience (though they won't tell us what). Please leave the thread.

[manc-mag 1]

Correct me if I'm wrong but nearly all expats still hold UK passports, whereas most Muslim protestors etc are British by birth. I see you and LM have deftly avoided the questions about the NHS and the various epochs of caring capitalism with regard to employment and labour. The pair of you need to read at least one book between you.

 

*MEEEEEEP* *MEEEEEEEP*

 

Endgame. You mentioned being brainwashed by books and similar left-wing propaganda. These people have life experience (though they won't tell us what). Please leave the thread.

 

[Guest Stevie]

tooner........how somebody thinks they know about NUFC never mind the BNP

 

 

hit a nerve did I?

 

haha not in the slightest. You may think you know all about the UK,which you don't, but I can state quite categorically your knowledge of NUFC is zilch in comparison to me..........

 

 

full agreement with you there LM, however that is not the topic and nor has it ever been my opinion that I know more about NUFC than you or anyone else on this board.......your rampant xenophobia is exceeded only by your level of douche-baggery

 

hit a nerve did I

 

 

not at all, but your attempt to draw attention away from your own prejudices and your knee jerk reactions to a percieved threat from immigrants, by pointing out that you know more about NUFC than I do makes you look like a even more of a complete twat

I didn't realise yanks used twat as a derogatory term. I didn't even realise they used cunt as a derogatory term till Sam Ace Rothstein called Ginger a cunt when she kidnapped the kid.

 

I feel like i'm beating a dead horse here stevie, there is a lot of things that occur outside the UK that you have no idea about. I've been using twat since i was a kid ( i would've said bairn but i had to look that one up when i first joined the board) when a guy my mom dated introduced me to the flying circus and to fawlty towers. crazy eh? (note the particular canadianism)

Was that big in America? I always thought it was shite. However I'm pretty sure John Cleese has never used the word twat on screen.

[Park Life 71]

Correct me if I'm wrong but nearly all expats still hold UK passports, whereas most Muslim protestors etc are British by birth. I see you and LM have deftly avoided the questions about the NHS and the various epochs of caring capitalism with regard to employment and labour. The pair of you need to read at least one book between you.

 

*MEEEEEEP* *MEEEEEEEP*

 

Endgame. You mentioned being brainwashed by books and similar left-wing propaganda. These people have life experience (though they won't tell us what). Please leave the thread.