Norbert Colon 0 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Well for a left back you could do worse than Dean Lewington from MK dons - solid as a rock and a really cultured left foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14046 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Joey Barton can piss off for all I care. How I laugh when I think of the memories he's provided us; the prison sentence, the McDonalds fiasco, dropkicking a Mackem, snapping Alonso. What a cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4856 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) Well for a left back you could do worse than Dean Lewington from MK dons - solid as a rock and a really cultured left foot I'd like us to try and nick joe mattock from leicester, young, pretty well rated and english Edited May 24, 2009 by Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Colon 0 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Well for a left back you could do worse than Dean Lewington from MK dons - solid as a rock and a really cultured left foot I'd like us to try and nick joe mattock from leicester, young, pretty well rated and english Never seen the lad - have seen lewington and he is consistently their standout player - i think he would come to us aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4856 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Well for a left back you could do worse than Dean Lewington from MK dons - solid as a rock and a really cultured left foot I'd like us to try and nick joe mattock from leicester, young, pretty well rated and english Never seen the lad - have seen lewington and he is consistently their standout player - i think he would come to us aswell seen mattock once or twice as well as hearing good things mostly, never seen lewington so can't comment my main knowledge as far as championship players goes is centred around burnley but they might be heading the other way tomorrow so we wouldn't get any of theirs, if not we could do worse than to try for several burnley always struggle to hold onto their better assests due to it being such a small place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Well for a left back you could do worse than Dean Lewington from MK dons - solid as a rock and a really cultured left foot I'd like us to try and nick joe mattock from leicester, young, pretty well rated and english Never seen the lad - have seen lewington and he is consistently their standout player - i think he would come to us aswell It would be a damning idictment of the club if he wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpossiblyDaft 1 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) Mattock is a decent player, pretty strong technically and knows when to get forward - but he's nowhere near the finished product, and his defensive positioning can sometimes be suspect (just watch the penalty he conceeded against Hereford). He's got bags of potential, but is no more than an average championship player at this point, and spending the £3m+ it would take to sign him would be a big gamble on youth when there is a lot of more ready-made talent in this league for that money. Our best defender by a mile is Tunchev, but he did his cruciate against Palace in the cup. Edited May 24, 2009 by ImpossiblyDaft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Well for a left back you could do worse than Dean Lewington from MK dons - solid as a rock and a really cultured left foot I'd like us to try and nick joe mattock from leicester, young, pretty well rated and english You put a comma after pretty then had to edit, didnt you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1255 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I will come at this from 2 angles. We are the biggest draw in the Champioinship without a doubt. Any player who cannot attain to Premiership standard or is looking for a club on a free could be tempted to join us in a hope to spring back up and get premiership status again. The only flip side of that is the like of Leeds/Sheff Wed should have done the same as that and it really hasnt worked out. The benefit we have over the likes of Leeds is that it looks like we might be able to afford players therefore being an attractive prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4856 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Well for a left back you could do worse than Dean Lewington from MK dons - solid as a rock and a really cultured left foot I'd like us to try and nick joe mattock from leicester, young, pretty well rated and english You put a comma after pretty then had to edit, didnt you? I was going to make a joke then but looked at a pic and realised he looks a bit of a gimp I actually put youngish then realised hes 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo 0 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I've got to admit I'm worried we're going to be stuck with this spineless lot... He had players in the comfort zone who knew they would be taking home their hefty salaries even if relegated. There are no penalties for going down, no wage cuts. These players will still be driving their Lamborghinis in the Championship. If Newcastle want to get rid of them, they will have to be paid off. How galling is that? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...ewcastle-0.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7485 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Surely it is standard fare to write a relegation clause into any footballing contract. Just about all the contracts of note* were signed before Mr 'Due Dilligence' strolled into town. If that's not the case for us it's a bloody travesty. * - Eg. High volume of notes. I'll be disappointed when Enrique leaves, possibly when Bassong does as well. Bassong though was too highly valued by many here, he was still what I would consider a raw talent - gave away some horrible fouls and got away with numerous grabs/shirt/arm tugs that should have resulted in penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo 0 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I'll be disappointed when Enrique leaves, possibly when Bassong does as well. Bassong though was too highly valued by many here, he was still what I would consider a raw talent - gave away some horrible fouls and got away with numerous grabs/shirt/arm tugs that should have resulted in penalties. I think we just appreciated that he did the basics well as he's the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7485 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Yeah, I definitely liked having him in the team and I'd keep him around for next season, don't get me wrong - but when you're playing next to Coloccini it's pretty easy to look like the quickest, strongest, best tackling defender in the land. The hype surrounding him doesn't help at all. When he came here he was talking about doing his best to try and crack it into the first team, now it seems he's reset his sights in line with the beat up media stories suggesting the likes of Arsenal are after him. Hopefully not N'Zogbia the second in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKers Edited May 25, 2009 by khay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Surely it is standard fare to write a relegation clause into any footballing contract. Just about all the contracts of note* were signed before Mr 'Due Dilligence' strolled into town. If that's not the case for us it's a bloody travesty. * - Eg. High volume of notes. I'll be disappointed when Enrique leaves, possibly when Bassong does as well. Bassong though was too highly valued by many here, he was still what I would consider a raw talent - gave away some horrible fouls and got away with numerous grabs/shirt/arm tugs that should have resulted in penalties. The thing is though they weren't. Although the spin by the board try to let you know different. They harp on about the financial mismanagement of the previous board and how high the wage bill is that they inherited, even though they are the ones who let Allardyce sign Smith, Barton, Geremi & Viduka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 It'll be hard to tell what happens with the squad. We don't even know who our manager will be (or our owner?). The main thing will be to get rid of the people who were so uncommitted to the cause, that it became an embaressment. I think .com are going to do a name and shame, but the likes of Smith, Viduka, Owen, Nacho, Barton, Nolan, Raylor, Cacapa, etc need to be fucked out of the club. I'd love to show them all how much they've made out of getting this club relegated, whilst the likes of Smith will waddle off on a free transfer to Blackburn/Bolton for a big signing on fee and another £50k per week. Some of the above just weren't good enough-the likes of Cacapa, Raylor, Nolan, Geremi-that's something that has to lie at the door of the managers who bought them. Did Cacapa and Geremi really warrant 2year+ contracts at their age? Many of the current lot-like Martins and Collocini will probably just head off to their previous leagues for a similar figure that they were initially signed for, but what we'll be left with will be the dross, like Shola and Kinnears two signings who are nowhere near good enough, and will probably strugle at Championship level. Will Shearer be able to recognise which players can do a job at that level/or be good enough for the PL in the future? Will he even want the job? Part of me thinks we may be better off trying to get Steve Coppel in. Someone who knows the league and can prove he can get teams promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I would start looking about the SPL for a few bargains. Aye many rip the piss on here but some of the players whose names have been banded about as of late went from the SPL to the Championship for peanuts such as Ross McCormack, Jason Scotland and Ricardo Fuller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Do we even have scouts at the club? If we have no manager, are there just random scouts on our payroll looking for players our next manager might not want. If so, who employed them? Kinnear? KK? Sam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Sol Campbell is out of contract. Could he do a job at Championship level? Big, experienced, knows Al from their England days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Sol Campbell is out of contract. Could he do a job at Championship level? Big, experienced, knows Al from their England days. He'll still get a decent payday somewhere. In January he was linked with La Liga sides was he not? I think he'll prefer the Spanish beaches rather than Blackpool beach tbh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22143 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 if shearer stays, i can see us pulling in some decent championship-standard players. the trick is to get in a couple of experienced old heads in and surround them with some pacy, younger players. sol campbell is a good shout. him and taylor at the back would do a job. nicky butt can probably mix it in the championship. someone like paul merson or teddy sheringham up front too - they were both different class when they helped take pompey up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter1875 0 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Here's my take on what road we should try to go with the squad. It's important to get rid of the aging well paid players that arent pulling their weight, and to sign players who have ambition and drive. Getting the wage cost down but keeping or raising the level of quality will obviously be key. I'd go far to get the hand on Giovani from Tottenham though after seeing how well he did with Ipswich. Tell him the team will be built around him, he's first of all after more playing time at this point. Newcastle should really be a good name to sell to players, even in Championship it should be easy to convince players that it's a team going to bounce straight back. 1 Steve Harper 2 Chris Gunter (Tottenham, season loan) 5 Steven Taylor 6 Dorian Dervite (Tottenham £2.5m) 3 Daniel Fox (Coventry £2m) 7 Christian Bolanos (Start £2m) 4 Kevin Nolan 8 Danny Guthrie 14 Robert Koren (WBA £3m) or Lorenzo Davids (NEC £3m) 9 Marc Janko (Red Bull Salzburg £4m) 10 Giovani Dos Santos (Tottenham £5m) -------------- 13 Tim Krul, 12 Fraser Forster 16 Ryan Taylor, 30 Edgar David 28 Tamas Kadar, 35 Ben Tozer 20 Rudolph Austin (Brann £1.5m) 27 Kaz Lua Lua, 22 Omar Daley (Bradford £750k) 18 Andy Carroll 19 Nile Ranger sell, loan out or release: Fabricio Coloccini - £5m Jose Enrique - £4m Cacapa - Joey Barton - £3m Obafemi Martins - £6m Michael Owen - Damien Duff - Sebastian Bassong - £6m Alan Smith - Jonas Gutierrez - £5m Xisco – loan out to Primera Liga Geremi - Habib Beye - £1.5m Nicky Butt - Shola Ameobi - £1.5m Peter Løvenkrands - £750k Mark Viduka - Omar fucking Daley? Have you ever seen him play? Janko wouldn't come to the Championship, and Dos Santos is far too lightweight for the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janu 0 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) Which of these players can we realistically sign in the summer? We need at least 3 defenders, 4 midfielders and 2 forwards imo. Shortlist: GK: Ross Turnbull (Middlesbrough) Keiren Westwood (Coventry City) Ben Foster (Man Utd) - Loan DEF: Joe Mattock (Leicester City) Daniel Fox (Coventry City) Gábor Gyepes (Cardiff City) Mark Beevers (Sheff Wed) Kyle Naughton (Sheff Utd) Liam Rosenior (Reading) Chris Armstrong (Reading) Ozcar Wendt (FC København) Michael Mancienne (Chelsea) – Loan Emiliano Insua (Liverpool) - Loan MID: Joe Ledley (Cardiff City) Fabian Delph (Leeds Utd) Stephen Hunt (Reading) Jordi Gomez (Espanyol) Chris Brunt (WBA) James Morrison (WBA) Kris Commons (Derby) Aron Gunnarsson (Coventry City) Per Ciljan Skjelbred (Rosenborg BK) Atiba Hutchinson (FC København) Darron Gibson (Man Utd) – Loan Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal) - Loan FOR: Ross McCormack (Cardiff City) Kevin Doyle (Reading) Marlon King (Wigan) Jermaine Beckford (Leeds Utd) Søren Larsen (Toulouse) - Loan Fraizer Campbell (Man Utd) – Loan Carlos Vela (Arsenal) - Loan I think most players from the Scandinavian leagues would consider it a step up playing in the Championship, plus the Shearer-effect (e.g. Skjelbred)... Edited May 25, 2009 by janu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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