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Charlotte fucked it by pulling that shit to frame Freddie with the Leanne murder. It was so stupid, she should have murdered Frankie that night because everyone left suspected everyone but her. 

 

Once she'd done that and Freddie realised what she'd done, there was no chance a traitor could win. 

 

The seer thing didn't help but I think Charlotte's misplay is what really knacked the ending. 

 

I still thought it was great telly though. 

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41 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Spoilers coming... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Charlotte fucked it by pulling that shit to frame Freddie with the Leanne murder. It was so stupid, she should have murdered Frankie that night because everyone left suspected everyone but her. 

 

Once she'd done that and Freddie realised what she'd done, there was no chance a traitor could win. 

 

The seer thing didn't help but I think Charlotte's misplay is what really knacked the ending. 

 

I still thought it was great telly though. 

 

Okay now I'm allowed to speak. Yes to all that. Charlotte tried to be too clever, Freddie understandably dropped her in it and cos Alexander had helped Frankie she won the seer and sussed out Charlotte. 

 

BUT the two new rule changes ruined it. The Seer just makes it a random chance to out a traitor. In this case the last traitor. As the seer does not have to reveal their own nature, this gives them a huge advantage. Charlotte was fucked. 

 

AND even worse is now in the final showdown nobody reveals what they are. What's the point in that? It's in everybody's interest to go down to the final 2 as that reduces the chance of a traitor AND it increases the pot for the 2 winners. This will happen every time now. And this time, because there were no traitors left, there was no suspense at all. Contrast that with S2 with Harry eviscerating Molly. 

 

Finally, imo the two most irritating contestants won, especially Leanne. Hey guys, surprise, I'm not a nail technician, I'm an ex squaddie! Amazing. Oh and Charlotte, I'm not even Welsh! Most Welsh people pretend not to be Welsh. Fucking hell, pointless. 

 

Honestly, look at it objectively, they needlessly made this series shit. Hope they rethink the next one. Next up, the fucking Apprentice. :suicide:

 

 

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3 hours ago, Alex said:

The two series of that are pure, fucking unadulterated brilliance imo

 

Aye, I'd not watched it in years then just caught it again. It just hits the notes just right, Some canny acting talent came through there too.

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13 hours ago, Renton said:

 

Okay now I'm allowed to speak. Yes to all that. Charlotte tried to be too clever, Freddie understandably dropped her in it and cos Alexander had helped Frankie she won the seer and sussed out Charlotte. 

 

BUT the two new rule changes ruined it. The Seer just makes it a random chance to out a traitor. In this case the last traitor. As the seer does not have to reveal their own nature, this gives them a huge advantage. Charlotte was fucked. 

 

AND even worse is now in the final showdown nobody reveals what they are. What's the point in that? It's in everybody's interest to go down to the final 2 as that reduces the chance of a traitor AND it increases the pot for the 2 winners. This will happen every time now. And this time, because there were no traitors left, there was no suspense at all. Contrast that with S2 with Harry eviscerating Molly. 

 

Finally, imo the two most irritating contestants won, especially Leanne. Hey guys, surprise, I'm not a nail technician, I'm an ex squaddie! Amazing. Oh and Charlotte, I'm not even Welsh! Most Welsh people pretend not to be Welsh. Fucking hell, pointless. 

 

Honestly, look at it objectively, they needlessly made this series shit. Hope they rethink the next one. Next up, the fucking Apprentice. :suicide:

 

 

 

I didn't like Leanne either. Didn't mind Jake though. 

 

I do think events conspired to make the seer a bad idea specifically for this season, but it might work in future. I wonder if they'll scrap it though. 

 

I think they should probably not fuck with the formula too much though. Definite signs this season that they might be tempted to tinker and they'll break it if they do too much. 

 

I didn't mind them not saying if they were a traitor or not in the final though. I don't think that made much difference. As soon as they all voted to banish in the final bit, that's the point they should have realised that they were all faithful. The fact they went again was baffling, but I suppose your head is just all over the place if you're in the show in that situation. 

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2 hours ago, Gemmill said:

 

I didn't like Leanne either. Didn't mind Jake though. 

 

I do think events conspired to make the seer a bad idea specifically for this season, but it might work in future. I wonder if they'll scrap it though. 

 

I think they should probably not fuck with the formula too much though. Definite signs this season that they might be tempted to tinker and they'll break it if they do too much. 

 

I didn't mind them not saying if they were a traitor or not in the final though. I don't think that made much difference. As soon as they all voted to banish in the final bit, that's the point they should have realised that they were all faithful. The fact they went again was baffling, but I suppose your head is just all over the place if you're in the show in that situation. 

 

Not really, the traitor knows if they vote to end and the other two don't they are outed. So they vote to continue, and on it goes. And everyone knows the less people the more they pocket. Ultimately what you want for a suspenseful ending is TFF in the last 3 like last year. The seer doesn't help in a help in achieving this imo. 

To continue being interesting the production team also has to be careful in who they enrol. I think they did an okay job this year as before (save for Leanne who I really did not like), I just hope it doesn't descend into the usual Love Island crap. 

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