Recommend me something to watch!

[Monkeys Fist 42418]

47 minutes ago, Renton said:

but you have to take it in context, they were unique for the time

I remember going to see it in 1977 with my Dad and brother- it was far and away the most amazing thing I’d seen at the cinema. 
 

The opening theme music, the scrolling text, then the huge Imperial Star Cruiser ominously appearing. 

 

Darth Vader, the cool as fuck looking stormtroopers, fucking lasers everywhere, mad robots… it was extraordinary! 
 

Bear in mind, until then, family films were either Disney cartoons once in a blue moon, films about a fucking VW Beetle with “personality”, or James Bond* ( which, at this point, was Roger Moore). 
 

It blew me away- didn’t have a fucking clue what the story was meant to be, didn’t care. 
 

[Alex 35077]

The three original Star Wars movies were great but you have to judge them for what they are, ie they’re essentially kids’ films. 
Also, I saw Alien recently and I still love it. 

[Monkeys Fist 42418]

7 minutes ago, Alex said:

they’re essentially family films. 

Something for the kids…

 Something for the mams…

 

something for the dads…

[Holden McGroin 6583]

17 hours ago, Alex said:

The three original Star Wars movies were great but you have to judge them for what they are, ie they’re essentially kids’ films. 
Also, I saw Alien recently and I still love it. 

Alien is a great suspense horror. Aliens is still the blueprint for great action movie. The new Alien Romulus movie looks like it’s following these two but I we’ll see.

 

 The original three Star Wars were great movies. The majority of movies that followed never reached those heights - bar Rogue One.

 

i think they’ve made some decent Tv series. Mandalorian was excellent along with Andor. The rest are watchable bar Obi Wan and Acolyte. There was actually one good episode in Acolyte. The rest was terrible. 

[Monkeys Fist 42418]

39 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

Mandalorian was excellent

It was- spaghetti western in space, basically. 
 

The Book of Boba Fett was pretty decent too. 

[Dazzler 9743]

22 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said:

I remember going to see it in 1977 with my Dad and brother- it was far and away the most amazing thing I’d seen at the cinema. 
 

The opening theme music, the scrolling text, then the huge Imperial Star Cruiser ominously appearing. 

 

Darth Vader, the cool as fuck looking stormtroopers, fucking lasers everywhere, mad robots… it was extraordinary! 
 

Bear in mind, until then, family films were either Disney cartoons once in a blue moon, films about a fucking VW Beetle with “personality”, or James Bond* ( which, at this point, was Roger Moore). 
 

It blew me away- didn’t have a fucking clue what the story was meant to be, didn’t care. 
 

I was born 10 years after you remember going to the pictures to see this just in case you needed help feeling old 

[RobinRobin 11263]

1 hour ago, Dazzler said:

I was born 10 years after you remember going to the pictures to see this just in case you needed help feeling old 

He's younger than me so you can

[Monkeys Fist 42418]

7 hours ago, Dazzler said:

I was born 10 years after you remember going to the pictures to see this just in case you needed help feeling old 

When I was born, Jumpin’ Jack Flash by the Stones was No.1. 
 

[spongebob toonpants 3995]

21 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

When I was born, Jumpin’ Jack Flash by the Stones was No.1. 
 

When I was born Kon Tiki by the Shadows was No.1 and the Stones hadn't even formed

[Gemmill 44853]

Beethoven's 9th for @RobinRobin

[RobinRobin 11263]

8 hours ago, Gemmill said:

Beethoven's 9th for @RobinRobin

 

It was actually

 

 

[The Fish 10856]

Most of the Star Wars stuff is terrible, not just because it's aimed at kids, but objectively terrible. Mandalorian was decent, as was Andor. Rogue One was better than any of the Star Wars films that came after the first released trilogy, I'd say it's better than the 3rd of that lot as well. 

 

I think the issue is that there's a huge appetite for this stuff, but instead of marketing it straight at that fanbase and using that buzz to attract more people, they try to make it appeal to everyone, which it won't.

 

Same thing is happening with the Marvel movies. They started with some of their lesser known IP and delivered to the comparatively small market something that it wanted. As it grew, they're now trying and failing to keep pace with similarly obscure characters marketed to a wider audience. And of course everything has to be tied together.

 

 

 

[Dazzler 9743]

30 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Most of the Star Wars stuff is terrible, not just because it's aimed at kids, but objectively terrible. Mandalorian was decent, as was Andor. Rogue One was better than any of the Star Wars films that came after the first released trilogy, I'd say it's better than the 3rd of that lot as well. 

 

I think the issue is that there's a huge appetite for this stuff, but instead of marketing it straight at that fanbase and using that buzz to attract more people, they try to make it appeal to everyone, which it won't.

 

Same thing is happening with the Marvel movies. They started with some of their lesser known IP and delivered to the comparatively small market something that it wanted. As it grew, they're now trying and failing to keep pace with similarly obscure characters marketed to a wider audience. And of course everything has to be tied together.

 

 

 

I think with marvel it tried, admirably, to be more inclusive but it came at the cost of quality IMO. Let’s force she-hulk out there with zero context because it’s a female badass superhero and that’s all that matters really. She hulk is fucking mint and they dropped the ball hard with that character. 
 

Hopefully, deadpool 3 can help repair some of the damage, and the new captain America trailer gives me hope for the future films as it looks really decent.

 

Plus a new daredevil series which includes the punisher stands to be good so long as they allow it to be as brutal as the seasons that came before.

[Renton 21615]

15 minutes ago, Dazzler said:

I think with marvel it tried, admirably, to be more inclusive but it came at the cost of quality IMO. Let’s force she-hulk out there with zero context because it’s a female badass superhero and that’s all that matters really. She hulk is fucking mint and they dropped the ball hard with that character. 
 

Hopefully, deadpool 3 can help repair some of the damage, and the new captain America trailer gives me hope for the future films as it looks really decent.

 

Plus a new daredevil series which includes the punisher stands to be good so long as they allow it to be as brutal as the seasons that came before.

 

She Hulk!?

Get tae fuck man. 

[The Fish 10856]

1 minute ago, Renton said:

 

She Hulk!?

Get tae fuck man. 

 

Her comics are good. Way bette than the portrayal on the tv show, which was a bit of a meta mess

[Renton 21615]

Actually quite enjoyed episode 5 of the Acolyte, 30 minutes of light sabre fighting.

 

House of Dragon series end episode dropped on Monday. Absolute shite man. They've set the scene for the coming battles and war but just ended it there. In 2 years time, when S3 is released, if I'm alive, I won't have a scooby who anyone is or what has happened. Again. Makes more sense just to wait a decade and watch the complete box sets of these series. 

[thebrokendoll 9203]

anybody watch the channel 5 documentary on lucy letby on monday?

quite powerful stuff I thought, seems to be growing concern on how safe her trial was.

I do remember thinking at the time that her defence team was beyond useless and failed to call as witnesses experts whose opinions counteracted those of the prosecution.

no doubt if she did indeed kill and attempt to kill these infants then she more than warrants her numerous whole life terms, but fucking hell, imagine facing that if you're innocent?

anyway, thought it was well made, thought provoking and cast considerable doubt on the entire trial.

 

[The Fish 10856]

18 minutes ago, Dazzler said:

I think with marvel it tried, admirably, to be more inclusive but it came at the cost of quality IMO. Let’s force she-hulk out there with zero context because it’s a female badass superhero and that’s all that matters really. She hulk is fucking mint and they dropped the ball hard with that character. 
 

Hopefully, deadpool 3 can help repair some of the damage, and the new captain America trailer gives me hope for the future films as it looks really decent.

 

Plus a new daredevil series which includes the punisher stands to be good so long as they allow it to be as brutal as the seasons that came before.

 

Yeah, I mean there are plenty of really good female characters, or gay characters, or whatever. Unfortunately, the writing for their screen adaptations have been pretty poor. I thought Ms Marvel was pretty well done, although I clearly wasn't the target market. The other issue is the neck bearded incels who think themselves the gatekeepers of what Marvel films/tv should look like. Review bombing the shows, which means any legit criticism is lost among a sea of cheeto dust and cry wanks.

[Dazzler 9743]

Just now, The Fish said:

 

Her comics are good. Way bette than the portrayal on the tv show, which was a bit of a meta mess

Exactly! The whole point I was making was that the source material is class but the series was completely terrible.

[Dazzler 9743]

5 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

Yeah, I mean there are plenty of really good female characters, or gay characters, or whatever. Unfortunately, the writing for their screen adaptations have been pretty poor. I thought Ms Marvel was pretty well done, although I clearly wasn't the target market. The other issue is the neck bearded incels who think themselves the gatekeepers of what Marvel films/tv should look like. Review bombing the shows, which means any legit criticism is lost among a sea of cheeto dust and cry wanks.

They should just look at black panther as the template for taking a minority marvel character and making a film that does the character justice. 
 

It just feels like an assembly line now to churn out as much content trying to reach as many demographics as possible and missing all of them.

 

Aye Ms Marvel was okay for what it was, I’m sure my daughter will love it in a few years as she hits her teenage angst phase.

[The Fish 10856]

9 minutes ago, Dazzler said:

Exactly! The whole point I was making was that the source material is class but the series was completely terrible.

It's frustrating as the stories are already there, tons of them. Stories that could speak to whatever societal issue the filmmakers want to address, or whatever arc they want to cover. Instead they're rushing something together which doesn't have the tone or pacing that the originals have. 

 

Daredevil on Netflix got it right. Arguably so did Luke Cage and Jessica Jones. The early Marvel films got it right. But everything post-Endgame has been pretty fucking bad, to be honest. (Spiderman - No Way Home aside). No confidence in Thunderbolts, the FF movie, etc.  Edit - And there were really good films that were a real departure from the source material like Ragnarok and Guardians. So you don't have to treat the comics as fucking gospel.

 

Even Blade, which should be low-hanging fruit sounds like it's lost in the reeds. And now they've announced Downey Jnr is playing Doom. Which is just misplaced fan service in my opinion.

Edited August 7 by The Fish

[Renton 21615]

10 minutes ago, The Fish said:

The other issue is the neck bearded incels

 

Yeah, perhaps just avoid genres that attract this type of person.

She and Hulk and Ms Marvel though? Genuinely thought you were both joking. 

[The Fish 10856]

4 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Yeah, perhaps just avoid genres that attract this type of person.

She and Hulk and Ms Marvel though? Genuinely thought you were both joking. 

I would do, but I like the stuff that these mooks are infecting with their toxicity.

 

If we start picking at the names of superheroes, we're in real danger. Most are fucking stupid, even the most famous ones. It's just familiarity that's made them seem less ridiculous. 

Edited August 7 by The Fish

[Renton 21615]

It's like Street Fighter. I liked it when it was 8 playable characters and 4 bosses. Now there are dozens of characters (most of which you need to pay to unlock). Fuck off, my brain can't handle it. Just stick with the classics. Although perhaps resist the temptation to reboot/remake films based on a single character dozens of times over (Spider man). 

[Dazzler 9743]

11 minutes ago, The Fish said:

It's frustrating as the stories are already there, tons of them. Stories that could speak to whatever societal issue the filmmakers want to address, or whatever arc they want to cover. Instead they're rushing something together which doesn't have the tone or pacing that the originals have. 

 

Daredevil on Netflix got it right. Arguably so did Luke Cage and Jessica Jones. The early Marvel films got it right. But everything post-Endgame has been pretty fucking bad, to be honest. (Spiderman - No Way Home aside). No confidence in Thunderbolts, the FF movie, etc.  Edit - And there were really good films that were a real departure from the source material like Ragnarok and Guardians. So you don't have to treat the comics as fucking gospel.

 

Even Blade, which should be low-hanging fruit sounds like it's lost in the reeds. And now they've announced Downey Jnr is playing Doom. Which is just misplaced fan service in my opinion.

The infamous iron man arc is the logic they are using, but even that would rely on Downey Jr being dead and replaced by Dr Doom, following a redemption arc which also relies on him being a complete bastard for a long time which won’t work as RDJ is beloved - that’s why their version of civil war was messy because Iron Man was the big bad of that comic series and a complete cunt.

 

They already have the multiverse angle to bring back an alternate Tony Stark played by RDJ if they really wanted to (and literally teased in the Dr Strange sequel), but that would be too easy.

 

I did like Moon Knight and the Captain America and Winter Soldier series but I’ve pretty much checked out since. Also, Guardians 3 was absolutely class tbf, but Gunn just gets it. His vision of DC will be class if Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are anything to go by.