LeazesMag 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 i don't give a shit about what the band members say, that's a fact and has no bearing on my (lack of) aesthetic appreciation of Green Day's music Green Day's pretention is in their musical rhetoric whilst Radiohead's isn't we all know Thom Yorke's a cunt...no shit...he's written some great songs though gobbledeegook only thing that matters is that you like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) i don't give a shit about what the band members say, that's a fact and has no bearing on my (lack of) aesthetic appreciation of Green Day's music Green Day's pretention is in their musical rhetoric whilst Radiohead's isn't we all know Thom Yorke's a cunt...no shit...he's written some great songs though What a Legend. Posting this list in one breath and having the audacity to call a band who do songs like Geek Stink Breath pretentious with the next. Edited May 14, 2009 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Onion 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Never mind Tom's waffle. Judge the art, not the artist*. Street Spirit is a fucking class song. *Unless we're talking about U2 obviously who are just cunts and fair game in every respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 i don't give a shit about what the band members say, that's a fact and has no bearing on my (lack of) aesthetic appreciation of Green Day's music Green Day's pretention is in their musical rhetoric whilst Radiohead's isn't we all know Thom Yorke's a cunt...no shit...he's written some great songs though gobbledeegook only thing that matters is that you like it Exactly. Anyway, he's got a fucking cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggiespaws 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Listened to it once, all the way through so far. Not sure tbh. Seems a bit soft for them.... maybe it'll grow on me. As for them being pretentious? Are you serious Oh and the opening drum beat for Do you know your enemy sounds like the beginning of I am the resurrection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 ''Protest songs or rebel songs, whatever you want to call them should come from the same place as like a love song, so that the person can make up their own mind'' Pretentious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13760 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Sloop John will look back in 15 years and realise what a twat he was. I can't remember the last time I listened to music with such self-consciousness. Also, fwiw, I enjoyed a fair few of the albums on Sloop's list and had them recommended to me by the "Ironic Hipster" crowd but I enjoyed them on musical merit rather than some deep-seated desire to shun the mainstream or whatever it is he hopes to achieve by filling his record collection with acceptable records. Bollocks to any scene, just rock out. Honestly, looking at John's list, is there any album you'd put on just to listen to and hopelessly sing along? They all seem like intensive listens with the possible exceptions of Wilco and Annie. Some of my favourite stuff is Blondie because I can put it on and hopelessly sing like a twat to it. Well, and they're pretty much perfect pop tracks but it's mostly the first thing. Edited May 14, 2009 by Stiva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I think the only thing I really listen to on Sloops top 10 list is Captain Beefheart. A lot of people regard Don Vliet as a consciously avant garde performer however to most people he is just insane, literally mad as a box of frogs. In most aspects of his life I doubt he has ever gone out of his way - even with his paintings and sculptures - to push the boundaries, he is simply mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Oh and the opening drum beat for Do you know your enemy sounds like the beginning of I am the resurrection There is an extra bass drum beat in Know you enemy but I know what you mean, it's literally exactly the same without that extra drum beat, I wonder if that's what it's for? To be honest though a lot of drum introductions probably clash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13760 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Oh and the opening drum beat for Do you know your enemy sounds like the beginning of I am the resurrection There is an extra bass drum beat in Know you enemy but I know what you mean, it's literally exactly the same without that extra drum beat, I wonder if that's what it's for? To be honest though a lot of drum introductions probably clash. Pretty much. There's loads of songs that use the intro from "Be My Baby", for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloopJohn 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Sloop John will look back in 15 years and realise what a twat he was. I can't remember the last time I listened to music with such self-consciousness. Also, fwiw, I enjoyed a fair few of the albums on Sloop's list and had them recommended to me by the "Ironic Hipster" crowd but I enjoyed them on musical merit rather than some deep-seated desire to shun the mainstream or whatever it is he hopes to achieve by filling his record collection with acceptable records. Bollocks to any scene, just rock out. Honestly, looking at John's list, is there any album you'd put on just to listen to and hopelessly sing along? They all seem like intensive listens with the possible exceptions of Wilco and Annie. Some of my favourite stuff is Blondie because I can put it on and hopelessly sing like a twat to it. Well, and they're pretty much perfect pop tracks but it's mostly the first thing. fennesz - endless summer avey tare & panda bear - spirit they're gone, spirit they've vanished manatees - icarus, the sunclimber lightning bolt - hypermagic mountain six organs of admittance - school of the flower jesu - jesu carla bozulich - evangelista stars of the lid - the tired sounds of stars of the lid tim hecker - harmony in ultraviolet lia jianhong - san sheng shi red house painters - old ramon murcof - remembranza pocahaunted - the beast that you are wilderness - wilderness beach house - beach house pantha du prince - this bliss pan sonic - aaltopiiri mu - afro finger gel akron / family - akron / family david thomas broughton - the complete guide to insufficiency keith fullerton whitman - lisbon sun 0))) - white2 polmo polpo - like hearts swelling gillian welch - time (the revelator) grouper - dragging a dear deer up a hill the pipettes - we are the pipettes atavist / nadja - 12012291920 / 1414101 supersilent - 6 doveman - with my right hand i raise the dead wilco - yankee hotel foxtrot bardo pond - ticket crystals apse - spirit sonic youth - murray street emeralds - solar bridge venetian snares - rossz csillag alatt született madvillian - madvilliany kode9 & the spaceape - memories of the future james blackshaw - litany of echoes sun kil moon - april louis sclavis - l'imparfait des langues pan sonic - kesto jim o'rourke - insignificance magik markers - boss ghost - hypnotic underworld birchville cat motel - gunpowder temple of heaven tarentel - ghetto beats on the surface of the sun cyrus - from the shadows scott walker - the drift rivulets - debridement natural snow buildings - the dance of the moon & the sun autechre - confield burial - burial brightback morninglight - brightback morninglight edan - beauty and the beat annie - anniemal coil - the ape of naples tom waits - alice dalek - absence these are all records I can happily sing along too and how on earth do you know I listen to music self-consciously? maybe I do enjoy a lot of these records like you enjoy blondie? i don't give a shit about what the band members say, that's a fact and has no bearing on my (lack of) aesthetic appreciation of Green Day's music Green Day's pretention is in their musical rhetoric whilst Radiohead's isn't we all know Thom Yorke's a cunt...no shit...he's written some great songs though What a Legend. Posting this list in one breath and having the audacity to call a band who do songs like Geek Stink Breath pretentious with the next. have you seen the video for When September Ends? Edited May 14, 2009 by SloopJohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Director: Michael Perlmutter. So you are judging a band's music on their music videos and at the same time calling the band pretentious ? I haven't seen the video and I don't care to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggiespaws 0 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Working from home this morning so I think I'll give it another listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggiespaws 0 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Oh and the opening drum beat for Do you know your enemy sounds like the beginning of I am the resurrection There is an extra bass drum beat in Know you enemy but I know what you mean, it's literally exactly the same without that extra drum beat, I wonder if that's what it's for? To be honest though a lot of drum introductions probably clash. Yeah, I've heard the same drum intro used elsewhere (can't remember the song atm though). Tbh I can't see Green Day 'borrowing' the drum intro from a Stone Roses song (although I listen to both bands so I guess they could too). It's just a coincidence imo. Made my ears prick up when I heard it for the 1st time on the radio though. Was expecting IATR not Green Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 I don't think this is as good as American Idiot, but some tracks are growing on me, I like the title track and 21 guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 866 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Got it on Friday. 21st Century Breakdown and East Jesus Nowhere are the best songs on there and I quite like both the Gloria songs. The Static Age, the second half of American Eulogy, 21 Guns and Peacemaker are pretty good too. The others are kind of hit and miss and I think the album is missing an epic-style song like Jesus of Suburbia or Homecoming from American Idiot. On average I'd say it's better (AI had some right dross, like Are We The Waiting For This Song To End and Wake Me Up When It Does Already) than the previous but its good songs don't stand out as much. Class new sig Tom btw, I was planning to change mine once we finally do go down and throw something from the title track in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggiespaws 0 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Oh and the opening drum beat for Do you know your enemy sounds like the beginning of I am the resurrection There is an extra bass drum beat in Know you enemy but I know what you mean, it's literally exactly the same without that extra drum beat, I wonder if that's what it's for? To be honest though a lot of drum introductions probably clash. I'm not sure there is an extra beat. It sounds identical to me. Still not 100% sure about the album yet. I stand by my original statement - seems a bit soft for them. Agree with the earlier comment about it missing an epic song. I'd be interested to see what the new stuff sounds like live though. Also agree with LM. I don't think this is as good as AI. Mind you, it was always going to be difficult to top. Did anyone catch them on T4 on Sunday? I missed the 1st 12mins before recording the rest. Now playing the album in the office - loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Green Day LIVE @ The BBC Pretty decent watch. They play :- 21st Century Breakdown, Before the Lobotomy, East Jesus Nowhere - all from the new album and 'She' from Dookie. Strangely 'She' is by far the best performance, Billie Joe totally fucks up the guitar solo too and just bursts out laughing, class . Worth a watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 have you seen this Tom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCFcDy94xc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Aye. Good though. Still I think I prefer the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 there's a shortage of songs from American Idiot on youtube, studio versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Hmm well that's probably due to copyright reasons I suppose! Check out some Woodstock madness anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 interesting.......not done this before but has anybody ever downloaded some of these things from youtube on your hard disk ? Just looked at how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 The video with sound or just the sound? I have done it once or twice for obscure songs I had to find for rehearsals but just the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 The video with sound or just the sound? I have done it once or twice for obscure songs I had to find for rehearsals but just the sound. I don't know, I will go and see what it does with a couple of oldies I'd like these files are clean etc I take it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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