Fop 1 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Call for gyms to help fitness addicts http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat...000/8012279.stm Fitness centres should do more to help people who do a dangerous amount of exercise, according to an eating disorder charity. Beat has told Newsbeat that health clubs should train staff to spot and advise members who are over-exercising. Doctors say up to 75 per cent of sufferers also have eating disorders and are risking serious health issues. Compulsive exercisers feel forced to exercise, often for hours every day, in order to burn calories. Typically they will continue to exercise through illness and feel extreme guilt if they miss a workout. Lynsey Bowman is a fit and healthy 19-year-old but she used to be anorexic. At my worst I was getting up and doing maybe a hundred sit-ups, runs, bike rides, walks, whatever I could do Lynsey Bowman She told Newsbeat: "My parents suddenly took control of my food, so that's when I turned to exercise because as far as I could see that's the only way I could still eat and lose weight." Aged 16 her weight dropped to six stone. She was rushed into A&E because her heart rate had fallen dangerously low due to malnutrition and over-exercise. She said: "At my worst I was getting up and doing maybe a hundred sit-ups, runs, bike rides, walks, whatever I could do just as long as I wasn't sitting down." Tighter checks Lynsey did a lot of exercise in her bedroom so her parents wouldn't know, but many sufferers burn their calories at the gym. Susan Ringwood is from beat and says staff at health centres should be trained to spot and advise compulsive exercisers. She told Newsbeat: "We would like to see the exercise industry and the gyms in particular have some guidelines in place to help people who might be at risk." Gym owner Mario is not convinced that fitness centres can help The charity also wants gyms to take a record of people who might have a history of eating disorders. "If you've got a heart complaint or asthma it's marked in your notes when you join. We'd like the gyms to do the same with eating disorders." Doing too much exercise puts a dangerous amount of pressure on your body. Muscles and bones are often damaged and if they're not given time to heal it can result in long-term damage, like osteoporosis, arthritis and heart problems. 'Nanny state' Not everyone thinks health clubs should be made to help sufferers though. Mario Pederzolli runs Fitrooms in south London. He said: "A member in a gym working out - that's only a very small part of their week. "Who's to say what they'll be doing elsewhere? At the end of the day… it's about the individual rather than a nanny state blanket rule for everybody." At the moment there are no guidelines for dealing with compulsive exercisers but the Fitness Industry Association, which represents around half the UK's gyms, says staff can and should act if members are making themselves ill through exercise. Doctors say doing three to four 45 minute sessions a week is healthy, but any more than that can be damaging. Anyone who is worried about over-exercising is advised to speak to their GP. http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/health/n...000/8012162.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I started going about a month ago. 3 times a week. I do ah hour and a half mainly cross training major muskles. Cycling machines when there are fit birds on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I started going about a month ago. 3 times a week. I do ah hour and a half mainly cross training major muskles. Cycling machines when there are fit birds on them. The same machine? Park arrested for trying to get a 'backie'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 any more than 3-4 45minute sessions is unhealthy? I have a disorder so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I started going about a month ago. 3 times a week. I do ah hour and a half mainly cross training major muskles. Cycling machines when there are fit birds on them. The same machine? Park arrested for trying to get a 'backie'! It's all in the jiggle innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 any more than 3-4 45minute sessions is unhealthy? I have a disorder so. I think that's bollocks, I can do two hours and feel fine if using medium weights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Too right it is. I do 45 minutes 3 times mid-week. An hour on the weekend. Football once a week. Squash once or twice a week. And then I cycle into work occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyff 0 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Bloody hell. Why do most of us have to become addicted to fags/booze/food? I would love it, as no doubt my local Gym would, if I was just a little bit addicted to going to the gym! Shame I can't be fooking arsed half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I love the way it's always up to some organisation to sort people's problems out for them. Same with booze, food, tabs, drugs, sex etc. Always someone else's fault & someone else's shit to sort out. If Parky wants to enjoy a few beers while he runs on a treadmill high as a kite with his knob stuck in a donut, that's none of the gym's business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I love the way it's always up to some organisation to sort people's problems out for them. Same with booze, food, tabs, drugs, sex etc. Always someone else's fault & someone else's shit to sort out. If Parky wants to enjoy a few beers while he runs on a treadmill high as a kite with his knob stuck in a donut, that's none of the gym's business. Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 I love the way it's always up to some organisation to sort people's problems out for them. Same with booze, food, tabs, drugs, sex etc. Always someone else's fault & someone else's shit to sort out. If Parky wants to enjoy a few beers while he runs on a treadmill high as a kite with his knob stuck in a donut, that's none of the gym's business. Alcoobesinarcogastroualismity is a serious and growing problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bob Almighty! 0 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 This definitely wont work, different people have different tolerances where strength training and cardio are concerned, one person could spend 2 hours in the gym and be fine, the next person might need to stop after say 45 minutes. There cant really be set guidelines for this type of thing. I generally just tend to have a rest day between workouts, say mon/wed/fri for weight training with maybe some light cardio on my off days, with both days rest at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15884 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 This ^^ It's about the rest as much as the exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 depends on whether you play any forms of sport as well. I play footy 3 times a week, and rugby twice(once for a proper game, once for an hour and a halfs training). i only work my upper body with medium weights once a week and thats at the flat. i don't need a great deal of cardio training. though in the off season i go jogging and do some sprint training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 45 minutes 3-4 times a week dangerous that must be wrong I know you can over train but not at that level of exercise shirley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 45 minutes 3-4 times a week dangerous that must be wrong I know you can over train but not at that level of exercise shirley? I suppose if you were eating fuck all then it could be, but if you were eating that little then other (blindingly obvious) things should be picked up long before that became an issue. But if you're fit and healthy then it's nothing like dangerous (or even enough depending on your goals/aims), or even necessarily lead to over-training even if you were doing very specific things. Besides digging a ditch every day is far close to a natural level of exercise and energy expenditure than sitting in an office etc. is. Just another bizarre health idea, I'm sure eventually there'll be a charity dedicated to wandering handing out leaflets to people that bend over to tie there shoelace without adoption the correct posture/a campaign to ban shoelaces due to the "unacceptable" 3 people a year their tweak their back tying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7354 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Can we change the name of this thread to. . . 'I spend all week in the gym, dont you know?' thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 Children 'not exercising enough' Exercise is good for long-term health Most children do not exercise enough to keep themselves healthy and prevent obesity, a government survey shows. The finding is based on more than 260,000 people in England who responded to the Change4Life campaign poll. The results showed nearly three-quarters (72%) of children do not take part in the recommended hour of daily activity outside school. Change4Life was launched in January to tackle soaring rates of obesity by promoting healthy eating and exercise. EXERCISE RECOMMENDATIONS Children and young people should achieve a total of at least 60 minutes of at least moderate intensity physical activity each day At least twice a week this should include activities to improve bone health, muscle strength and flexibility Activity can either be all in one go, or through several shorter bursts Its latest poll also found 45% of youngsters watched TV or played non-active video games before school. Only 22% did something active after their evening meal. Public Health Minister Dawn Primarolo said: "Our survey shows that kids just aren't getting up and about as much as they should. "If we're going to cut obesity levels our children need to be active for at least 60 minutes a day. "By eating better and moving more, we can all live longer and healthier lives." Huge challenge Tam Fry, of the National Obesity Forum, said he was not at all surprised by the findings. He said: "Children are more dedicated to sitting in their room playing on their computers and watching television than taking exercise. "Unless we do something to make play more enjoyable then they are not going to get the balance right between energy going in and energy going out. "However, it is a huge challenge to come up with ways to make physical activity more fun, something that children's imaginations can latch on to." Mr Fry said it was not acceptable to expect children simply to go down to their local park, when in many instances they were run down, and potentially unsafe. He said concerted action was required to provide children with stimulating places where they would want to take exercise. Dr Ian Campbell, medical director of the charity Weight Concern, said it was vital that parents led by example. "More exercise benefits us all. For most children obesity is entirely preventable and an active life starts at home. Or preferably in the garden." Change4Life is launching a new advert aimed at encouraging families to work together to improve their lifestyles. It stresses that inactivity can lead to a build up of fat which has been implicated in diseases such as type 2 diabetes, cancer and heart disease. As part of the campaign, families have been sent support packs designed to help them make changes to their daily routine. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8015875.stm "Unless we do something to make play more enjoyable then they are not going to get the balance right between energy going in and energy going out. FFS, no to being allowed on the Playstation + kicked outside into the (evil) sunshine = play But no, clearly we need a public enquiry into how to make children's play more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Can we change the name of this thread to. . . 'I spend all week in the gym, dont you know?' thread I have been 5 times this week. Yeah, thats right, FUCKING HARDCORE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Why is this the British media obsessed with health issues? They never cease to tell people what's good for them, according to the fashion of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bob Almighty! 0 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Can we change the name of this thread to. . . 'I spend all week in the gym, dont you know?' thread I have been 5 times this week. Yeah, thats right, FUCKING HARDCORE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 Can we change the name of this thread to. . . 'I spend all week in the gym, dont you know?' thread I have been 5 times this week. Yeah, thats right, FUCKING HARDCORE! Poncing around sipping mineral water is ok, you can do that at least 7 time a week for 1 hour at a time before it becomes dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7354 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 My mates brag that they do 100 reps on the weights. If you can do more than 15 reps its not heavy enough tbh! Girls do 100 reps to tone their thighs The same lads boast that they can bench 100kg on the machine. They dont realise that by pushing their back into the seat and their feet into the floor its more like 60k and if they tried 100kg of free weights their arms would most likely snap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I really enjoy it when I go. Get some podcasts going and it's kinda relaxing. But I tend to go in phases and my weight has fluctuated a lot over the past few years because of that and not playing proper football anymore. I'm in fatso mode again, there's far too much temptation for just being lazy and doing fuck all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7354 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 My weight tends to fluctuate between being 12 1/2 stone and fit or 13 stone with moobs. Half a stone makes all the difference for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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