Guest Stevie Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. Are you any good at creative writing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Parky uses those '3 word story' threads for most of his ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Parky uses those '3 word story' threads for most of his ideas. Shhhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I sort of do write for a living at times. Am currently writing a paper on kidney cancer. Thats the thing about writing, its easy to do something else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I sort of do write for a living at times. Am currently writing a paper on kidney cancer. Thats the thing about writing, its easy to do something else.... I imagine you have quite a gift for making those boring papers semi-interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. It was possible in the past. I know Jez Robinson, the bloke behind ALS, he basically started off the fanzine with no prior writing experience and ended up working for the local and national press. Nowadays though because jobs are so thin on the ground you need to be well qualified or related to someone with their foot already in the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. It was possible in the past. I know Jez Robinson, the bloke behind ALS, he basically started off the fanzine with no prior writing experience and ended up working for the local and national press. Nowadays though because jobs are so thin on the ground you need to be well qualified or related to someone with their foot already in the door. I've now done 3 corporate books and working on my 4th, I have no kind of writing qualification whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. It was possible in the past. I know Jez Robinson, the bloke behind ALS, he basically started off the fanzine with no prior writing experience and ended up working for the local and national press. Nowadays though because jobs are so thin on the ground you need to be well qualified or related to someone with their foot already in the door. I've now done 3 corporate books and working on my 4th, I have no kind of writing qualification whatsoever. What's a corporate book ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. Are you a journalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. It was possible in the past. I know Jez Robinson, the bloke behind ALS, he basically started off the fanzine with no prior writing experience and ended up working for the local and national press. Nowadays though because jobs are so thin on the ground you need to be well qualified or related to someone with their foot already in the door. I've now done 3 corporate books and working on my 4th, I have no kind of writing qualification whatsoever. What's a corporate book ? A company annual if you like. Normally with high design values (hardback) and telling the story of where a company is, where it came from and where it wants to go. Companies add this kind of output to their profile footprints and use it to engage new client bases or keep the current client base informed of its developing values and ideation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 There's a difference between writing for a living and being a writer. I'm living proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. It was possible in the past. I know Jez Robinson, the bloke behind ALS, he basically started off the fanzine with no prior writing experience and ended up working for the local and national press. Nowadays though because jobs are so thin on the ground you need to be well qualified or related to someone with their foot already in the door. I've now done 3 corporate books and working on my 4th, I have no kind of writing qualification whatsoever. Aye, but that's a completely different kettle of fish to working for a newspaper or magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. Are you a journalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15742 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 A company annual if you like. Normally with high design values (hardback) and telling the story of where a company is, where it came from and where it wants to go. Companies add this kind of output to their profile footprints and use it to engage new client bases or keep the current client base informed of its developing values and ideation. Jesus, I never realised the bullshit of our professional lives was quite so closely linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. It was possible in the past. I know Jez Robinson, the bloke behind ALS, he basically started off the fanzine with no prior writing experience and ended up working for the local and national press. Nowadays though because jobs are so thin on the ground you need to be well qualified or related to someone with their foot already in the door. I've now done 3 corporate books and working on my 4th, I have no kind of writing qualification whatsoever. Corporate books eh I'm getting an image of a young Rolf Harris type in German clothes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 A company annual if you like. Normally with high design values (hardback) and telling the story of where a company is, where it came from and where it wants to go. Companies add this kind of output to their profile footprints and use it to engage new client bases or keep the current client base informed of its developing values and ideation. Jesus, I never realised the bullshit of our professional lives was quite so closely linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. It was possible in the past. I know Jez Robinson, the bloke behind ALS, he basically started off the fanzine with no prior writing experience and ended up working for the local and national press. Nowadays though because jobs are so thin on the ground you need to be well qualified or related to someone with their foot already in the door. I've now done 3 corporate books and working on my 4th, I have no kind of writing qualification whatsoever. Aye, but that's a completely different kettle of fish to working for a newspaper or magazine. I have written for at least a half dozen mags. Was it paid work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 There's a difference between writing for a living and being a writer. I'm living proof. All this writing for money is holding up the novel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. It was possible in the past. I know Jez Robinson, the bloke behind ALS, he basically started off the fanzine with no prior writing experience and ended up working for the local and national press. Nowadays though because jobs are so thin on the ground you need to be well qualified or related to someone with their foot already in the door. I've now done 3 corporate books and working on my 4th, I have no kind of writing qualification whatsoever. Aye, but that's a completely different kettle of fish to working for a newspaper or magazine. I have written for at least a half dozen mags. Was it paid work? I don't do it for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it. Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it. Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it. My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase. You don't need a degree. Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about? You needed a media qualification I know that for an absolute nailed on fact, certainly to get a job at Thomson House. Football would be what I would like to write about, or be a travel reporter, I'm not as well travelled as the likes of that cunt on here who's old forget his name, you know who I mean, but who is, I've been about a bit though. I'd be a good news reporter for a trashy paper as well, who need sensationalist stories for non-events. NCTJ qualifications are more important than a degree nowadays but the courses cost upwards of £1000 if I remember correctly. Trouble is even if you have the time and money to do the course the chances of you getting a job in journalism at the minute are slim. All you need is an aptitude for discursive writing and some will power, the rest is cobblers. How I wish that was true I'm living proof. It was possible in the past. I know Jez Robinson, the bloke behind ALS, he basically started off the fanzine with no prior writing experience and ended up working for the local and national press. Nowadays though because jobs are so thin on the ground you need to be well qualified or related to someone with their foot already in the door. I've now done 3 corporate books and working on my 4th, I have no kind of writing qualification whatsoever. What's a corporate book ? A company annual if you like. Normally with high design values (hardback) and telling the story of where a company is, where it came from and where it wants to go. Companies add this kind of output to their profile footprints and use it to engage new client bases or keep the current client base informed of its developing values and ideation. Ah! Marketing then, your right, no qualifications needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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