Writing for a living

[Guest Stevie]

I appreciate it's not the same as being chief football correspondent for the Daily Telegraph but loads of people on here could do Lee Ryder's job imo. The same people probably already earn more than he does though.

I agree 100%. I can think of at least five who would be more entertaining and a better all round journalist than him. A key thing I would bring to a roll like that would be direct questions, not worrying about offending people, which are absolutely vital in any free journalistic publication.

[Christmas Tree 4858]

A lad I used to play football with wrote poetry. I was an avid lit' student at the time and thought his stuff was awful.

 

He's now (20 years later) had loads of stuff published and is fairly well known in littererchewer circles

 

I still think it's fairly pap like.

 

*clears throat*

 

*strikes 'the pose'*

 

*adopts the Jonny Gielgud voice*

 

 

 

On yonder hill, stood a cow.

It must have shifted, caus it's not there now.

 

 

Gielgud was an awful reader mind - he was accused of 'singing', much to his annoyance. Richard Burton was the boyo

 

I came across some of my own pathetic attempts a couple of years ago, cringed, and quickly got rid of the evidence

 

I used to use Paul Gambachini in nearly all my radio adverts. I have never come across anyone who could get so many words into a 30 second radio commercial or who could walk into a studio in london, have one practise reading the times in the style of a furniture ad and then completing the ad in one take.

 

The worst was Christopher Biggins. Nearly died trying to do a gambachini script.

[Christmas Tree 4858]

I appreciate it's not the same as being chief football correspondent for the Daily Telegraph but loads of people on here could do Lee Ryder's job imo. The same people probably already earn more than he does though.

I agree 100%. I can think of at least five who would be more entertaining and a better all round journalist than him. A key thing I would bring to a roll like that would be direct questions, not worrying about offending people, which are absolutely vital in any free journalistic publication.

 

 

It would be a good story, but alas your last!

[Guest Stevie]

I appreciate it's not the same as being chief football correspondent for the Daily Telegraph but loads of people on here could do Lee Ryder's job imo. The same people probably already earn more than he does though.

I agree 100%. I can think of at least five who would be more entertaining and a better all round journalist than him. A key thing I would bring to a roll like that would be direct questions, not worrying about offending people, which are absolutely vital in any free journalistic publication.

 

 

It would be a good story, but alas your last!

It must be difficult writing impartially about something you love though.

[Isegrim 9910]

Did HTT ever finish his book on NUFC btw?

 

The abstract was class.

[Christmas Tree 4858]

I appreciate it's not the same as being chief football correspondent for the Daily Telegraph but loads of people on here could do Lee Ryder's job imo. The same people probably already earn more than he does though.

I agree 100%. I can think of at least five who would be more entertaining and a better all round journalist than him. A key thing I would bring to a roll like that would be direct questions, not worrying about offending people, which are absolutely vital in any free journalistic publication.

 

 

It would be a good story, but alas your last!

It must be difficult writing impartially about something you love though.

 

 

Got to play the game as in essence you are just a minnion selling advertising space. The big boys at the top table dont want you upsetting people. If your luck and good and have played the game, you eventually get to a red top or such where you have more licence to tell it like it is.

[Guest alex]

I appreciate it's not the same as being chief football correspondent for the Daily Telegraph but loads of people on here could do Lee Ryder's job imo. The same people probably already earn more than he does though.

I agree 100%. I can think of at least five who would be more entertaining and a better all round journalist than him. A key thing I would bring to a roll like that would be direct questions, not worrying about offending people, which are absolutely vital in any free journalistic publication.

Your application just went in the bin

[Meenzer 15742]

My dream job as a boy was a dustbin man.

 

Purely because it looked like fun riding on the back of the lorry.

 

Thank god I didn't follow through with that.

 

Must be a 'southern/northern' thing. It was always considered a canny job up here to be working the bins.

Dahn sarf, starting out as a binman can lead to things like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX6P8Wde5ag

 

[Christmas Tree 4858]

My dream job as a boy was a dustbin man.

 

Purely because it looked like fun riding on the back of the lorry.

 

Thank god I didn't follow through with that.

 

Must be a 'southern/northern' thing. It was always considered a canny job up here to be working the bins.

Dahn sarf, starting out as a binman can lead to things like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX6P8Wde5ag

 

 

 

Yep, you cant beat a musical bin man.

 

[Guest Stevie]

I appreciate it's not the same as being chief football correspondent for the Daily Telegraph but loads of people on here could do Lee Ryder's job imo. The same people probably already earn more than he does though.

I agree 100%. I can think of at least five who would be more entertaining and a better all round journalist than him. A key thing I would bring to a roll like that would be direct questions, not worrying about offending people, which are absolutely vital in any free journalistic publication.

Your application just went in the bin

Haha, I make schoolboy errors quite often when I'm typing fast, what used to amaze me though with Alan Oliver, was the amount of times his glaring gramatical and spelling errors managed to beat the copy checkers, so you can imagine what his draft pieces looked like. Same with this Lee Ryder.

[donaldstott 0]

I appreciate it's not the same as being chief football correspondent for the Daily Telegraph but loads of people on here could do Lee Ryder's job imo. The same people probably already earn more than he does though.

I agree 100%. I can think of at least five who would be more entertaining and a better all round journalist than him. A key thing I would bring to a roll like that would be direct questions, not worrying about offending people, which are absolutely vital in any free journalistic publication.

Your application just went in the bin

Haha, I make schoolboy errors quite often when I'm typing fast, what used to amaze me though with Alan Oliver, was the amount of times his glaring gramatical and spelling errors managed to beat the copy checkers, so you can imagine what his draft pieces looked like. Same with this Lee Ryder.

 

Oliver used to telephone his match reports in, so you can blame (at least some) of his gramatical mistakes on the work experience child on the other end of the phone. He was the only journalist who turned up to the match without a laptop.

[Guest Stevie]

I appreciate it's not the same as being chief football correspondent for the Daily Telegraph but loads of people on here could do Lee Ryder's job imo. The same people probably already earn more than he does though.

I agree 100%. I can think of at least five who would be more entertaining and a better all round journalist than him. A key thing I would bring to a roll like that would be direct questions, not worrying about offending people, which are absolutely vital in any free journalistic publication.

Your application just went in the bin

Haha, I make schoolboy errors quite often when I'm typing fast, what used to amaze me though with Alan Oliver, was the amount of times his glaring gramatical and spelling errors managed to beat the copy checkers, so you can imagine what his draft pieces looked like. Same with this Lee Ryder.

 

Oliver used to telephone his match reports in, so you can blame (at least some) of his gramatical mistakes on the work experience child on the other end of the phone. He was the only journalist who turned up to the match without a laptop.

Aye...but they have a professional copy checking team, who's only role is to check for grammar and spelling. The Journal have a team of about seven who just check for mistakes, and the main part of their job starts about 9pm and ends at 1am.

[peasepud 59]

I appreciate it's not the same as being chief football correspondent for the Daily Telegraph but loads of people on here could do Lee Ryder's job imo. The same people probably already earn more than he does though.

I agree 100%. I can think of at least five who would be more entertaining and a better all round journalist than him. A key thing I would bring to a roll like that would be direct questions, not worrying about offending people, which are absolutely vital in any free journalistic publication.

Your application just went in the bin

Haha, I make schoolboy errors quite often when I'm typing fast, what used to amaze me though with Alan Oliver, was the amount of times his glaring gramatical and spelling errors managed to beat the copy checkers, so you can imagine what his draft pieces looked like. Same with this Lee Ryder.

 

Oliver used to telephone his match reports in, so you can blame (at least some) of his gramatical mistakes on the work experience child on the other end of the phone. He was the only journalist who turned up to the match without a laptop.

 

I can only assume Ryders are written in crayon

[Ketsbaia 0]

I appreciate it's not the same as being chief football correspondent for the Daily Telegraph but loads of people on here could do Lee Ryder's job imo. The same people probably already earn more than he does though.

I agree 100%. I can think of at least five who would be more entertaining and a better all round journalist than him. A key thing I would bring to a roll like that would be direct questions, not worrying about offending people, which are absolutely vital in any free journalistic publication.

Your application just went in the bin

Haha, I make schoolboy errors quite often when I'm typing fast, what used to amaze me though with Alan Oliver, was the amount of times his glaring gramatical and spelling errors managed to beat the copy checkers, so you can imagine what his draft pieces looked like. Same with this Lee Ryder.

 

Oliver used to telephone his match reports in, so you can blame (at least some) of his gramatical mistakes on the work experience child on the other end of the phone. He was the only journalist who turned up to the match without a laptop.

Aye...but they have a professional copy checking team, who's only role is to check for grammar and spelling. The Journal have a team of about seven who just check for mistakes, and the main part of their job starts about 9pm and ends at 1am.

 

Being ex-chief sub on the uni newspaper I can pretty much guarantee that would be four hours of sheer hell

[JawD 99]

Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it.

 

Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it.

 

Id love to be able to right some good kids stuff, especially for my bairn. I reckon I could put something together as good as the Gruffalo etc if I had someone decent to do the illustration. I've just go tthat kinda imaginative brain.

 

Night Monkey Day Monkey is better than the Gruffalo though

[soccermom 0]

I've always wanted to write a screen play. I've got the main body of the story, the twists and the end, and I jot the odd extra thing down now and again to add to it, but I've never actually put it all into order. Think Adam Sandler-esque film, but an original storyline. I'm quite lucky cos my bro's best mate is a film editor so I could get help from him, but its just that actual jump to do it. Ultimately I think that I'm scared of failing at something I really want to do, so if I keep it at arms length it's always a possibility rather than a failed attempt.

[Park Life 71]

Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it.

 

Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it.

Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it.

 

My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase.

 

You don't need a degree.

 

Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about?

[Tooj 17]

Does anyone have any knowledge of how hard / easy it is to get into and whether there is much money to be made for the average joe with a half decent book. I have always wanted to write childrens stories (think gruffalo), but have never really looked into it.

 

Anyone else have a dream job that is not impossible but seems so improbable that they don't go for it.

Everyone here would probably say their dream job as a bairn was to be a footballer, but you need so much luck, focus and dedication. It isn't all about talent, I bet there are people in this forum with more natural ability than some professional footballers, you just need everything to click in to place, not just in football but in any job where there are infinitely fewer opportunities than people willing to do it.

 

My ambition was to be a journalist of sorts, I don't think that could ever happen now, I'd need to go and get a degree for one, and fuck that, but good luck in whatever dream you chase.

 

You don't need a degree.

 

Apart from footie what would you like to write about or have some degree of knowledge about?

[Park Life 71]

I've always wanted to write a screen play. I've got the main body of the story, the twists and the end, and I jot the odd extra thing down now and again to add to it, but I've never actually put it all into order. Think Adam Sandler-esque film, but an original storyline. I'm quite lucky cos my bro's best mate is a film editor so I could get help from him, but its just that actual jump to do it. Ultimately I think that I'm scared of failing at something I really want to do, so if I keep it at arms length it's always a possibility rather than a failed attempt.

 

Just try it.

 

9.99 of all scripts get rejected so its not like you have anything to fear.

[Christmas Tree 4858]

Two things are strange with regard to this

 

1. How many people don't push ahead with their dream.

 

2. If 99.9% get rejected, how does some of the shot that gets to big screen get through.

 

Soccermom & jawd. Anthony Robbins- Awaken the giant within. Go get it :-)

[Park Life 71]

Two things are strange with regard to this

 

1. How many people don't push ahead with their dream.

 

2. If 99.9% get rejected, how does some of the shot that gets to big screen get through.

 

Soccermom & jawd. Anthony Robbins- Awaken the giant within. Go get it :-)

 

Film community is very small and it's as important to know people as have a killer script.

[Christmas Tree 4858]

Two things are strange with regard to this

 

1. How many people don't push ahead with their dream.

 

2. If 99.9% get rejected, how does some of the shot that gets to big screen get through.

 

Soccermom & jawd. Anthony Robbins- Awaken the giant within. Go get it :-)

 

Film community is very small and it's as important to know people as have a killer script.

 

A lad who used towork as a producer on some of my ads, apparently went on to write a film called dog soldiers with one of his mates. I think the had to go to some strange country to get a grant to get it made. Think he also got a job producing on the 2nd unit.

 

Just an average joe with a script that finally broke in.

[Jill 0]

a film called dog soldiers

 

Terrible film.

[JawD 99]

Two things are strange with regard to this

 

1. How many people don't push ahead with their dream.

 

2. If 99.9% get rejected, how does some of the shot that gets to big screen get through.

 

Soccermom & jawd. Anthony Robbins- Awaken the giant within. Go get it :-)

 

I can't read that to my bairn man!

[Guest alex]

Two things are strange with regard to this

 

1. How many people don't push ahead with their dream.

 

2. If 99.9% get rejected, how does some of the shot that gets to big screen get through.

 

Soccermom & jawd. Anthony Robbins- Awaken the giant within. Go get it :-)

 

Film community is very small and it's as important to know people as have a killer script.

 

A lad who used towork as a producer on some of my ads, apparently went on to write a film called dog soldiers with one of his mates. I think the had to go to some strange country to get a grant to get it made. Think he also got a job producing on the 2nd unit.

 

Just an average joe with a script that finally broke in.

Don't know about the funding but it was actually filmed in Luxembourg iirc (rather bizarrely as it's set in Scotland). Same geezer did the Descent which did quite well. I preferred Dog Soldiers, purely for its daftness. Canny film imo.