David Kelly 1245 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Keegan has definitely left us in the mire, I don't think there's any doubt about that. If he has stayed I think we would have more points now (possibly enough to already be safe or at least where Spurs are now). But the reason he left is the reason we are in the mire and that's Ashley and his band of merry mongers. Keegan doesn't deserve and special credit for leaving (a better option for us would have been for him to stay and attack them from within), I don't believe he was thinking with the fans best interests he was thinking about himself (which by the way is probably just exactly the same as anyone else in his position would do). But the arguments about him shouldn't deflect the blame away from where it truly lies. Ashley, through either incompentence or malicious intent, is making Shepherd look like a football genius. In two years he a stumbled from one tragedy to another and as long as he is here it is only likely to get worse. When the inevitable happens (we will go down next season if a miracle happens this one) I see us as less likely to come straight back up than we did last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Keegan left us in the mire?? Sorry, but that is just rubbish imo. The FACT! is that there was plenty of time to bring in a quality manager, buy good players and move the club forward. There is only one person responsible for the demise of this great club and that is Mike Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Ashley's presided over the two shortest managerial tenures in the club's history. And they were consecutive. Takes some fucking doing considering the history of the club He is the dark master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Keegan left us in the mire?? Sorry, but that is just rubbish imo. The FACT! is that there was plenty of time to bring in a quality manager, buy good players and move the club forward. There is only one person responsible for the demise of this great club and that is Mike Ashley. To think anything else is the purest driven madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Keegan left us in the mire?? Sorry, but that is just rubbish imo. The FACT! is that there was plenty of time to bring in a quality manager, buy good players and move the club forward. There is only one person responsible for the demise of this great club and that is Mike Ashley. Basically how I see it. You can blame x, y and z in the form of previous managers and the old board but whatever blames lies there is vastly overshadowed by what Ashley has done since taking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Keegan doesn't deserve and special credit for leaving (a better option for us would have been for him to stay and attack them from within), I don't believe he was thinking with the fans best interests he was thinking about himself (which by the way is probably just exactly the same as anyone else in his position would do). But the arguments about him shouldn't deflect the blame away from where it truly lies. The thing is how? He was clearly doing that with his post-Chelsea at home statement, but the summer was still what it was. He obviously was in a very limited position and had very little room for manoeuvre, hell Ashley still wouldn't back down over Wise's power even when Keegan left, so how was Keegan going to claw back the power he should have had if even that didn't work? Not to mention that if Keegan had stayed and the results had turned, it would have been all blamed on him anyway (which is why managers like to be able to actually manage). The reason we ended up with Kinnear was partly because of the "for sale" sign, but I think probably more to do with very few decent managers wanting to work in a situation like Keegan was in, one that was probably more prescriptive than Curbishly found himself in..... and he, of course, walked away from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Ashley didn't listen to KK and stuck by Wise...We got relegated. [Thread closed\] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Ashley didn't listen to KK and stuck by Wise...We got relegated. [Thread closed\] Not seventh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Ashley didn't listen to KK and stuck by Wise...We got relegated. [Thread closed\] Not seventh? 17th would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Sorry seems to be the hardest word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) It's just a sad sad situation And it's getting more and more absurd. Edit: Damn you have to be fast in this place. Edited March 23, 2009 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin 0 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Relax, Newcastle aren't going down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Relax, Newcastle aren't going down Phew, I was getting worried there for a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bob Almighty! 0 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 We CAN still qualify for europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Relax, Newcastle aren't going down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 If we do I might invest in a spartans season ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 If we do I might invest in a spartans season ticket Just get your Mam to buy you one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 It's just a sad sad situation And it's getting more and more absurd. Edit: Damn you have to be fast in this place. When I think of Newcastle these days this is the soundtrack.... The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides And a dark wind blows The government is corrupt And we're on so many drugs With the radio on and the curtains drawn We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine And the machine is bleeding to death The sun has fallen down And the billboards are all leering And the flags are all dead at the top of their poles It went like this The buildings tumbled in on themselves Mothers clutching babies picked through the rubble and pulled out their hair The skyline was beautiful on fire All twisted metal stretching upwards Everything washed in a thin orange haze I said, "Kiss me, you're beautiful.. These are truly the last days" You grabbed my hand and we fell into it Like a daydream or a fever We woke up one morning and fell a little further down For sure it's the valley of death I open up my wallet And it's full of blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Think someone in the NUFC website team has a sense of humour http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Welcome Fucking hell....... "Unbelievable end of season sale!" Toon Army 12th Man has been reduced from £30 to £10 To Paraphrase Del Boy, they're STILL charging a subscription fee? It's a bit strange to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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