IF We go down

[manc-mag 1]

Fact is, people like Renton - and he denies it now - have said that the club was run by shit directors who had "no plan" - and disagreed with me when I said the only "plan" that counts is backing your manager and buying the quality players, and you can't "plan" availability of quality players.

 

Leazes, prove that I ever talked about a 'plan'. If you can't then just accept you're talking about somebody else, Baggio most probably. I'm far more inclined to agree with your viewpoint than his as it happens. In fact regarding football matters, we have generally agreed with the exception of the Hall family and Shepherd. What irritates me most is your never-ending repetition of cherry picked 'facts' regarding Shepherd's tenure, do you never get sick of repeating it every second post?

 

I'm also getting sick of your general pettiness and insults, it's a fruitless exercise discussing anything with you as a result. I do however suspect your obvious dislike of me stems from topics on the general chat board rather than anything about football, probably something to do with your old mate HTL, because that's when it started. So if you can't stop misrepresenting me or insulting me, please just don't bother responding. It's easy enough.

 

Just on that point, it's pretty clear to most that it's wilfull misrepresentation. This is the problem with 'debating' things with Leazes though - his propensity to simply interpret things in the way he wants to coupled with his obsession in his pursuit of the point; to the extent that even where you're not discussing something you will find him randomly resurrecting an argument and trying to graft it onto the back of some other discussion point.

 

quite ironic, as you've just had a go at me for being a "poor debater", especially when you're abstaining from "debating" the valid point I'm making about our old regime, but thats because you haven't got a case and you know it.

 

 

 

 

Ironic?

[LeazesMag 0]

Fact is, people like Renton - and he denies it now - have said that the club was run by shit directors who had "no plan" - and disagreed with me when I said the only "plan" that counts is backing your manager and buying the quality players, and you can't "plan" availability of quality players.

 

Leazes, prove that I ever talked about a 'plan' . If you can't then just accept you're talking about somebody else, Baggio most probably. I'm far more inclined to agree with your viewpoint than his as it happens. In fact regarding football matters, we have generally agreed with the exception of the Hall family and Shepherd. What irritates me most is your never-ending repetition of cherry picked 'facts' regarding Shepherd's tenure, do you never get sick of repeating it every second post?

 

I'm also getting sick of your general pettiness and insults, it's a fruitless exercise discussing anything with you as a result. I do however suspect your obvious dislike of me stems from topics on the general chat board rather than anything about football, probably something to do with your old mate HTL, because that's when it started. So if you can't stop misrepresenting me or insulting me, please just don't bother responding. It's easy enough.

 

http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...5881&st=120

 

see post number 120

Edited March 7, 2009 by LeazesMag

[manc-mag 1]

I thought we'd stopped all this shit. Leave it N-O man Leazes ffs. The past is exactly that, the past. And you even said that you thought the old regime had run its course iirc. The new lot are worse but we were in a bit of a state and have been for the last 4-5 years. Of course they did brilliantly at times, no one would argue with that.

 

Well, I did as well Alex, until mancmag came along and started off with the smartarse comments. What a shame the daft fucker is wrong though. I'm quite happy to "debate" things with him as long as he likes, but no doubt when I rip him up for bogpaper he'll say he's not "debating" but "arguing".

 

Fuckin sad. And all because I said I agree with FOP, which I do.

 

 

 

Think you're taking this way too personally tbh mate. I simply said that I think you're a very bad debater. That's an honestly held view and I don't think I'm alone in thinking it for the record; it's also the reason why I won't argue the toss/'debate' with you.

 

Your response is just to go nuts and start throwing insults about. That doesn't arse me but it does look a bit sad coming from a 50 year old man. You've left the forum in the past in a state like this; it's time you pulled yourself together tbh.

[LeazesMag 0]

Fact is, people like Renton - and he denies it now - have said that the club was run by shit directors who had "no plan" - and disagreed with me when I said the only "plan" that counts is backing your manager and buying the quality players, and you can't "plan" availability of quality players.

 

Leazes, prove that I ever talked about a 'plan'. If you can't then just accept you're talking about somebody else, Baggio most probably. I'm far more inclined to agree with your viewpoint than his as it happens. In fact regarding football matters, we have generally agreed with the exception of the Hall family and Shepherd. What irritates me most is your never-ending repetition of cherry picked 'facts' regarding Shepherd's tenure, do you never get sick of repeating it every second post?

 

I'm also getting sick of your general pettiness and insults, it's a fruitless exercise discussing anything with you as a result. I do however suspect your obvious dislike of me stems from topics on the general chat board rather than anything about football, probably something to do with your old mate HTL, because that's when it started. So if you can't stop misrepresenting me or insulting me, please just don't bother responding. It's easy enough.

 

Just on that point, it's pretty clear to most that it's wilfull misrepresentation. This is the problem with 'debating' things with Leazes though - his propensity to simply interpret things in the way he wants to coupled with his obsession in his pursuit of the point; to the extent that even where you're not discussing something you will find him randomly resurrecting an argument and trying to graft it onto the back of some other discussion point.

 

quite ironic, as you've just had a go at me for being a "poor debater", especially when you're abstaining from "debating" the valid point I'm making about our old regime, but thats because you haven't got a case and you know it.

 

 

 

 

Ironic?

 

eh ? Read the thread man. Your harping on about insulting, lack of debate etc.

 

Basically, if you want to debate with me, go ahead, but don't complain and bicker on and accuse me of "arguing and not debating" when I prove you are talking bollocks.

[manc-mag 1]

Fact is, people like Renton - and he denies it now - have said that the club was run by shit directors who had "no plan" - and disagreed with me when I said the only "plan" that counts is backing your manager and buying the quality players, and you can't "plan" availability of quality players.

 

Leazes, prove that I ever talked about a 'plan'. If you can't then just accept you're talking about somebody else, Baggio most probably. I'm far more inclined to agree with your viewpoint than his as it happens. In fact regarding football matters, we have generally agreed with the exception of the Hall family and Shepherd. What irritates me most is your never-ending repetition of cherry picked 'facts' regarding Shepherd's tenure, do you never get sick of repeating it every second post?

 

I'm also getting sick of your general pettiness and insults, it's a fruitless exercise discussing anything with you as a result. I do however suspect your obvious dislike of me stems from topics on the general chat board rather than anything about football, probably something to do with your old mate HTL, because that's when it started. So if you can't stop misrepresenting me or insulting me, please just don't bother responding. It's easy enough.

 

Just on that point, it's pretty clear to most that it's wilfull misrepresentation. This is the problem with 'debating' things with Leazes though - his propensity to simply interpret things in the way he wants to coupled with his obsession in his pursuit of the point; to the extent that even where you're not discussing something you will find him randomly resurrecting an argument and trying to graft it onto the back of some other discussion point.

 

quite ironic, as you've just had a go at me for being a "poor debater", especially when you're abstaining from "debating" the valid point I'm making about our old regime, but thats because you haven't got a case and you know it.

 

 

 

 

Ironic?

 

eh ? Read the thread man. Your harping on about insulting, lack of debate etc.

 

Basically, if you want to debate with me, go ahead, but don't complain and bicker on and accuse me of "arguing and not debating" when I prove you are talking bollocks.

 

 

 

I don't because you can't. I've been totally clear about that.

[LeazesMag 0]

I thought we'd stopped all this shit. Leave it N-O man Leazes ffs. The past is exactly that, the past. And you even said that you thought the old regime had run its course iirc. The new lot are worse but we were in a bit of a state and have been for the last 4-5 years. Of course they did brilliantly at times, no one would argue with that.

 

Well, I did as well Alex, until mancmag came along and started off with the smartarse comments. What a shame the daft fucker is wrong though. I'm quite happy to "debate" things with him as long as he likes, but no doubt when I rip him up for bogpaper he'll say he's not "debating" but "arguing".

 

Fuckin sad. And all because I said I agree with FOP, which I do.

 

 

 

Think you're taking this way too personally tbh mate. I simply said that I think you're a very bad debater. That's an honestly held view and I don't think I'm alone in thinking it for the record; it's also the reason why I won't argue the toss/'debate' with you.

 

Your response is just to go nuts and start throwing insults about. That doesn't arse me but it does look a bit sad coming from a 50 year old man. You've left the forum in the past in a state like this; it's time you pulled yourself together tbh.

 

 

there you go again. If you don't want to get into insults, don't dish them out. I don't think you're a good debater either, because you basically spout a lot of shite.

 

I'm not mortally wounded by anything you say personally BTW, thats just you imagining it in your head. I said I agreed with FOP, and I do, so take it on the chin and try to debate your way out of it and convince me I'm wrong, if you think you can. You certainly won't convince me about the Halls and Shepherd, because time has proved me to be right, which is the entire point I've made here.

[LeazesMag 0]

Fact is, people like Renton - and he denies it now - have said that the club was run by shit directors who had "no plan" - and disagreed with me when I said the only "plan" that counts is backing your manager and buying the quality players, and you can't "plan" availability of quality players.

 

Leazes, prove that I ever talked about a 'plan'. If you can't then just accept you're talking about somebody else, Baggio most probably. I'm far more inclined to agree with your viewpoint than his as it happens. In fact regarding football matters, we have generally agreed with the exception of the Hall family and Shepherd. What irritates me most is your never-ending repetition of cherry picked 'facts' regarding Shepherd's tenure, do you never get sick of repeating it every second post?

 

I'm also getting sick of your general pettiness and insults, it's a fruitless exercise discussing anything with you as a result. I do however suspect your obvious dislike of me stems from topics on the general chat board rather than anything about football, probably something to do with your old mate HTL, because that's when it started. So if you can't stop misrepresenting me or insulting me, please just don't bother responding. It's easy enough.

 

Just on that point, it's pretty clear to most that it's wilfull misrepresentation. This is the problem with 'debating' things with Leazes though - his propensity to simply interpret things in the way he wants to coupled with his obsession in his pursuit of the point; to the extent that even where you're not discussing something you will find him randomly resurrecting an argument and trying to graft it onto the back of some other discussion point.

 

quite ironic, as you've just had a go at me for being a "poor debater", especially when you're abstaining from "debating" the valid point I'm making about our old regime, but thats because you haven't got a case and you know it.

 

 

 

 

Ironic?

 

eh ? Read the thread man. Your harping on about insulting, lack of debate etc.

 

Basically, if you want to debate with me, go ahead, but don't complain and bicker on and accuse me of "arguing and not debating" when I prove you are talking bollocks.

 

 

 

I don't because you can't. I've been totally clear about that.

 

 

Well, basically, you won't because you know you've spouted bollocks about the halls and Shepherd, they have gone and been replaced by a complete wanker, which I always said was highly possible, when people like you slated the way the club was run previously.

 

Why not let it go ? I just agreed with FOP before you started making daft insults.

[manc-mag 1]

I thought we'd stopped all this shit. Leave it N-O man Leazes ffs. The past is exactly that, the past. And you even said that you thought the old regime had run its course iirc. The new lot are worse but we were in a bit of a state and have been for the last 4-5 years. Of course they did brilliantly at times, no one would argue with that.

 

Well, I did as well Alex, until mancmag came along and started off with the smartarse comments. What a shame the daft fucker is wrong though. I'm quite happy to "debate" things with him as long as he likes, but no doubt when I rip him up for bogpaper he'll say he's not "debating" but "arguing".

 

Fuckin sad. And all because I said I agree with FOP, which I do.

 

 

 

Think you're taking this way too personally tbh mate. I simply said that I think you're a very bad debater. That's an honestly held view and I don't think I'm alone in thinking it for the record; it's also the reason why I won't argue the toss/'debate' with you.

 

Your response is just to go nuts and start throwing insults about. That doesn't arse me but it does look a bit sad coming from a 50 year old man. You've left the forum in the past in a state like this; it's time you pulled yourself together tbh.

 

 

there you go again. If you don't want to get into insults, don't dish them out. I don't think you're a good debater either, because you basically spout a lot of shite.

 

I'm not mortally wounded by anything you say personally BTW, thats just you imagining it in your head. I said I agreed with FOP, and I do, so take it on the chin and try to debate your way out of it and convince me I'm wrong, if you think you can. You certainly won't convince me about the Halls and Shepherd, because time has proved me to be right, which is the entire point I've made here.

 

 

 

 

Why do you reckon I'm insulting you? I said I think you're a bad debater; you're being a bit over sensitive if you're interpreting that as a personal insult. Your only response is to start 'f'ing and jeffing about it, so while you say you're not mortally wounded by it, clearly it's upsetting you. Which going back to my very limited original point, makes you a bad debater.

 

I think you just need to be a bit less of a delicate flower in all seriousness.

[Tom 14026]

What the hell are you's even on about?

[LeazesMag 0]

I thought we'd stopped all this shit. Leave it N-O man Leazes ffs. The past is exactly that, the past. And you even said that you thought the old regime had run its course iirc. The new lot are worse but we were in a bit of a state and have been for the last 4-5 years. Of course they did brilliantly at times, no one would argue with that.

 

Well, I did as well Alex, until mancmag came along and started off with the smartarse comments. What a shame the daft fucker is wrong though. I'm quite happy to "debate" things with him as long as he likes, but no doubt when I rip him up for bogpaper he'll say he's not "debating" but "arguing".

 

Fuckin sad. And all because I said I agree with FOP, which I do.

 

 

 

Think you're taking this way too personally tbh mate. I simply said that I think you're a very bad debater. That's an honestly held view and I don't think I'm alone in thinking it for the record; it's also the reason why I won't argue the toss/'debate' with you.

 

Your response is just to go nuts and start throwing insults about. That doesn't arse me but it does look a bit sad coming from a 50 year old man. You've left the forum in the past in a state like this; it's time you pulled yourself together tbh.

 

 

there you go again. If you don't want to get into insults, don't dish them out. I don't think you're a good debater either, because you basically spout a lot of shite.

 

I'm not mortally wounded by anything you say personally BTW, thats just you imagining it in your head. I said I agreed with FOP, and I do, so take it on the chin and try to debate your way out of it and convince me I'm wrong, if you think you can. You certainly won't convince me about the Halls and Shepherd, because time has proved me to be right, which is the entire point I've made here.

 

 

 

 

Why do you reckon I'm insulting you? I said I think you're a bad debater; you're being a bit over sensitive if you're interpreting that as a personal insult. Your only response is to start 'f'ing and jeffing about it, so while you say you're not mortally wounded by it, clearly it's upsetting you. Which going back to my very limited original point, makes you a bad debater.

 

I think you just need to be a bit less of a delicate flower in all seriousness.

 

haven't a clue what you're on about. You made a smartarse comment because I agreed with FOP and not you, and are now trying to back out of a "debate" because you know I'd rip up any argument/debate you attempted to make. Thats all there is to it really.

 

Meanwhile, I'm off out tonight and I suggest you do the same, socialising with people might help you from imagining things in your head.

[manc-mag 1]

I thought we'd stopped all this shit. Leave it N-O man Leazes ffs. The past is exactly that, the past. And you even said that you thought the old regime had run its course iirc. The new lot are worse but we were in a bit of a state and have been for the last 4-5 years. Of course they did brilliantly at times, no one would argue with that.

 

Well, I did as well Alex, until mancmag came along and started off with the smartarse comments. What a shame the daft fucker is wrong though. I'm quite happy to "debate" things with him as long as he likes, but no doubt when I rip him up for bogpaper he'll say he's not "debating" but "arguing".

 

Fuckin sad. And all because I said I agree with FOP, which I do.

 

 

 

Think you're taking this way too personally tbh mate. I simply said that I think you're a very bad debater. That's an honestly held view and I don't think I'm alone in thinking it for the record; it's also the reason why I won't argue the toss/'debate' with you.

 

Your response is just to go nuts and start throwing insults about. That doesn't arse me but it does look a bit sad coming from a 50 year old man. You've left the forum in the past in a state like this; it's time you pulled yourself together tbh.

 

 

there you go again. If you don't want to get into insults, don't dish them out. I don't think you're a good debater either, because you basically spout a lot of shite.

 

I'm not mortally wounded by anything you say personally BTW, thats just you imagining it in your head. I said I agreed with FOP, and I do, so take it on the chin and try to debate your way out of it and convince me I'm wrong, if you think you can. You certainly won't convince me about the Halls and Shepherd, because time has proved me to be right, which is the entire point I've made here.

 

 

 

 

Why do you reckon I'm insulting you? I said I think you're a bad debater; you're being a bit over sensitive if you're interpreting that as a personal insult. Your only response is to start 'f'ing and jeffing about it, so while you say you're not mortally wounded by it, clearly it's upsetting you. Which going back to my very limited original point, makes you a bad debater.

 

I think you just need to be a bit less of a delicate flower in all seriousness.

 

haven't a clue what you're on about. You made a smartarse comment because I agreed with FOP and not you, and are now trying to back out of a "debate" because you know I'd rip up any argument/debate you attempted to make. Thats all there is to it really.

 

Meanwhile, I'm off out tonight and I suggest you do the same, socialising with people might help you from imagining things in your head.

 

 

 

Stay off the shorts in that case tbh.

[LeazesMag 0]

I thought we'd stopped all this shit. Leave it N-O man Leazes ffs. The past is exactly that, the past. And you even said that you thought the old regime had run its course iirc. The new lot are worse but we were in a bit of a state and have been for the last 4-5 years. Of course they did brilliantly at times, no one would argue with that.

 

Well, I did as well Alex, until mancmag came along and started off with the smartarse comments. What a shame the daft fucker is wrong though. I'm quite happy to "debate" things with him as long as he likes, but no doubt when I rip him up for bogpaper he'll say he's not "debating" but "arguing".

 

Fuckin sad. And all because I said I agree with FOP, which I do.

 

 

 

Think you're taking this way too personally tbh mate. I simply said that I think you're a very bad debater. That's an honestly held view and I don't think I'm alone in thinking it for the record; it's also the reason why I won't argue the toss/'debate' with you.

 

Your response is just to go nuts and start throwing insults about. That doesn't arse me but it does look a bit sad coming from a 50 year old man. You've left the forum in the past in a state like this; it's time you pulled yourself together tbh.

 

 

there you go again. If you don't want to get into insults, don't dish them out. I don't think you're a good debater either, because you basically spout a lot of shite.

 

I'm not mortally wounded by anything you say personally BTW, thats just you imagining it in your head. I said I agreed with FOP, and I do, so take it on the chin and try to debate your way out of it and convince me I'm wrong, if you think you can. You certainly won't convince me about the Halls and Shepherd, because time has proved me to be right, which is the entire point I've made here.

 

 

 

 

Why do you reckon I'm insulting you? I said I think you're a bad debater; you're being a bit over sensitive if you're interpreting that as a personal insult. Your only response is to start 'f'ing and jeffing about it, so while you say you're not mortally wounded by it, clearly it's upsetting you. Which going back to my very limited original point, makes you a bad debater.

 

I think you just need to be a bit less of a delicate flower in all seriousness.

 

haven't a clue what you're on about. You made a smartarse comment because I agreed with FOP and not you, and are now trying to back out of a "debate" because you know I'd rip up any argument/debate you attempted to make. Thats all there is to it really.

 

Meanwhile, I'm off out tonight and I suggest you do the same, socialising with people might help you from imagining things in your head.

 

 

 

Stay off the shorts in that case tbh.

 

why not ? [ I don't drink shorts anyway like ..... ]

[manc-mag 1]

I thought we'd stopped all this shit. Leave it N-O man Leazes ffs. The past is exactly that, the past. And you even said that you thought the old regime had run its course iirc. The new lot are worse but we were in a bit of a state and have been for the last 4-5 years. Of course they did brilliantly at times, no one would argue with that.

 

Well, I did as well Alex, until mancmag came along and started off with the smartarse comments. What a shame the daft fucker is wrong though. I'm quite happy to "debate" things with him as long as he likes, but no doubt when I rip him up for bogpaper he'll say he's not "debating" but "arguing".

 

Fuckin sad. And all because I said I agree with FOP, which I do.

 

 

 

Think you're taking this way too personally tbh mate. I simply said that I think you're a very bad debater. That's an honestly held view and I don't think I'm alone in thinking it for the record; it's also the reason why I won't argue the toss/'debate' with you.

 

Your response is just to go nuts and start throwing insults about. That doesn't arse me but it does look a bit sad coming from a 50 year old man. You've left the forum in the past in a state like this; it's time you pulled yourself together tbh.

 

 

there you go again. If you don't want to get into insults, don't dish them out. I don't think you're a good debater either, because you basically spout a lot of shite.

 

I'm not mortally wounded by anything you say personally BTW, thats just you imagining it in your head. I said I agreed with FOP, and I do, so take it on the chin and try to debate your way out of it and convince me I'm wrong, if you think you can. You certainly won't convince me about the Halls and Shepherd, because time has proved me to be right, which is the entire point I've made here.

 

 

 

 

Why do you reckon I'm insulting you? I said I think you're a bad debater; you're being a bit over sensitive if you're interpreting that as a personal insult. Your only response is to start 'f'ing and jeffing about it, so while you say you're not mortally wounded by it, clearly it's upsetting you. Which going back to my very limited original point, makes you a bad debater.

 

I think you just need to be a bit less of a delicate flower in all seriousness.

 

haven't a clue what you're on about. You made a smartarse comment because I agreed with FOP and not you, and are now trying to back out of a "debate" because you know I'd rip up any argument/debate you attempted to make. Thats all there is to it really.

 

Meanwhile, I'm off out tonight and I suggest you do the same, socialising with people might help you from imagining things in your head.

 

 

 

Stay off the shorts in that case tbh.

 

why not ? [ I don't drink shorts anyway like ..... ]

 

 

 

Because I think you're a 'bit' wound up.

[LeazesMag 0]

I thought we'd stopped all this shit. Leave it N-O man Leazes ffs. The past is exactly that, the past. And you even said that you thought the old regime had run its course iirc. The new lot are worse but we were in a bit of a state and have been for the last 4-5 years. Of course they did brilliantly at times, no one would argue with that.

 

Well, I did as well Alex, until mancmag came along and started off with the smartarse comments. What a shame the daft fucker is wrong though. I'm quite happy to "debate" things with him as long as he likes, but no doubt when I rip him up for bogpaper he'll say he's not "debating" but "arguing".

 

Fuckin sad. And all because I said I agree with FOP, which I do.

 

 

 

Think you're taking this way too personally tbh mate. I simply said that I think you're a very bad debater. That's an honestly held view and I don't think I'm alone in thinking it for the record; it's also the reason why I won't argue the toss/'debate' with you.

 

Your response is just to go nuts and start throwing insults about. That doesn't arse me but it does look a bit sad coming from a 50 year old man. You've left the forum in the past in a state like this; it's time you pulled yourself together tbh.

 

 

there you go again. If you don't want to get into insults, don't dish them out. I don't think you're a good debater either, because you basically spout a lot of shite.

 

I'm not mortally wounded by anything you say personally BTW, thats just you imagining it in your head. I said I agreed with FOP, and I do, so take it on the chin and try to debate your way out of it and convince me I'm wrong, if you think you can. You certainly won't convince me about the Halls and Shepherd, because time has proved me to be right, which is the entire point I've made here.

 

 

 

 

Why do you reckon I'm insulting you? I said I think you're a bad debater; you're being a bit over sensitive if you're interpreting that as a personal insult. Your only response is to start 'f'ing and jeffing about it, so while you say you're not mortally wounded by it, clearly it's upsetting you. Which going back to my very limited original point, makes you a bad debater.

 

I think you just need to be a bit less of a delicate flower in all seriousness.

 

haven't a clue what you're on about. You made a smartarse comment because I agreed with FOP and not you, and are now trying to back out of a "debate" because you know I'd rip up any argument/debate you attempted to make. Thats all there is to it really.

 

Meanwhile, I'm off out tonight and I suggest you do the same, socialising with people might help you from imagining things in your head.

 

 

 

Stay off the shorts in that case tbh.

 

why not ? [ I don't drink shorts anyway like ..... ]

 

 

 

Because I think you're a 'bit' wound up.

 

 

haha, if this is your idea of a debate ........

 

Feel free to continue the other one, you know, the one you backed out of

[manc-mag 1]

 

Why do you (and Fop) get insensed when I won't argue with you?

[LeazesMag 0]

 

Why do you (and Fop) get insensed when I won't argue with you?

 

all in the name of "debate" bonnie lad.......

[manc-mag 1]

 

Let it lie man. You can't be that precious surely?

[LeazesMag 0]

 

Let it lie man. You can't be that precious surely?

 

strange choice of words.

[manc-mag 1]

Excessively delicate.

[Tom 14026]

Time Gentlemen please

[manc-mag 1]

Time Gentlemen please

 

Aye, fair play.

[Guest alex]

I thought we'd stopped all this shit. Leave it N-O man Leazes ffs. The past is exactly that, the past. And you even said that you thought the old regime had run its course iirc. The new lot are worse but we were in a bit of a state and have been for the last 4-5 years. Of course they did brilliantly at times, no one would argue with that.

 

Well, I did as well Alex, until mancmag came along and started off with the smartarse comments. What a shame the daft fucker is wrong though. I'm quite happy to "debate" things with him as long as he likes, but no doubt when I rip him up for bogpaper he'll say he's not "debating" but "arguing".

 

Fuckin sad. And all because I said I agree with FOP, which I do.

What I meant was, and please don't think I'm being cliquey because you know I like you etc., the way in which you bring up Shpeherd and then make up stuff people supposedly said/thought when it isn't even that relevant. Because you're a great poster when you aren't being so petty and so on. Don't get me wrong, I know I go on like a prick on here at times so I know what I'm on about

[Fop 1]

 

Why do you (and Fop) get insensed when I won't argue with you?

 

Is see you're fully committed to stage 3 now.

[Renton 22909]

Fact is, people like Renton - and he denies it now - have said that the club was run by shit directors who had "no plan" - and disagreed with me when I said the only "plan" that counts is backing your manager and buying the quality players, and you can't "plan" availability of quality players.

 

Leazes, prove that I ever talked about a 'plan' . If you can't then just accept you're talking about somebody else, Baggio most probably. I'm far more inclined to agree with your viewpoint than his as it happens. In fact regarding football matters, we have generally agreed with the exception of the Hall family and Shepherd. What irritates me most is your never-ending repetition of cherry picked 'facts' regarding Shepherd's tenure, do you never get sick of repeating it every second post?

 

I'm also getting sick of your general pettiness and insults, it's a fruitless exercise discussing anything with you as a result. I do however suspect your obvious dislike of me stems from topics on the general chat board rather than anything about football, probably something to do with your old mate HTL, because that's when it started. So if you can't stop misrepresenting me or insulting me, please just don't bother responding. It's easy enough.

 

http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...5881&st=120

 

see post number 120

 

 

 

Is that the best you could do? How long did it take you to dredge up that?

 

For those that can't be arsed to look at that thread, it dates back to May 2006 when Shepherd had just appointed Roeder as his permanent choice of manager. I argued in it that it would be wise to 'plan' our next managerial appointments in advance, rather than sack them first and see who is available. I cite the employment of Souness and Roeder as good examples of the consequences of using the latter strategy (and of course since then Ashley has repeated the same mistake by dismissing Allardyce and Keegan and look who we have ended up with - Joe fucking Kinnear).

 

Interestingly in that thread, not only does Leazes support the policy of 'sack now, worry about the manager later', he supports the employment of Roeder; and whereas myself and Alex are the main critics of Shepherd, I don't recall either of us writing 'I told you so posts' a year later when it all goes tits up. Oh, and hilariously Leazes himself is the only person who harps on about a 'five year plan' and is clearly desperate for a fight, as usual. In fact Leazes, you come across incredibly bad in that thread, if I were you I would have kept it in the past.

 

P.S. Whatever happened to Dotbum and LuckyPierre (aka Gibbon). Good posters.

[LeazesMag 0]

Fact is, people like Renton - and he denies it now - have said that the club was run by shit directors who had "no plan" - and disagreed with me when I said the only "plan" that counts is backing your manager and buying the quality players, and you can't "plan" availability of quality players.

 

Leazes, prove that I ever talked about a 'plan' . If you can't then just accept you're talking about somebody else, Baggio most probably. I'm far more inclined to agree with your viewpoint than his as it happens. In fact regarding football matters, we have generally agreed with the exception of the Hall family and Shepherd. What irritates me most is your never-ending repetition of cherry picked 'facts' regarding Shepherd's tenure, do you never get sick of repeating it every second post?

 

I'm also getting sick of your general pettiness and insults, it's a fruitless exercise discussing anything with you as a result. I do however suspect your obvious dislike of me stems from topics on the general chat board rather than anything about football, probably something to do with your old mate HTL, because that's when it started. So if you can't stop misrepresenting me or insulting me, please just don't bother responding. It's easy enough.

 

http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...5881&st=120

 

see post number 120

 

 

 

Is that the best you could do? How long did it take you to dredge up that?

 

For those that can't be arsed to look at that thread, it dates back to May 2006 when Shepherd had just appointed Roeder as his permanent choice of manager. I argued in it that it would be wise to 'plan' our next managerial appointments in advance, rather than sack them first and see who is available. I cite the employment of Souness and Roeder as good examples of the consequences of using the latter strategy (and of course since then Ashley has repeated the same mistake by dismissing Allardyce and Keegan and look who we have ended up with - Joe fucking Kinnear).

 

Interestingly in that thread, not only does Leazes support the policy of 'sack now, worry about the manager later', he supports the employment of Roeder; and whereas myself and Alex are the main critics of Shepherd, I don't recall either of us writing 'I told you so posts' a year later when it all goes tits up. Oh, and hilariously Leazes himself is the only person who harps on about a 'five year plan' and is clearly desperate for a fight, as usual. In fact Leazes, you come across incredibly bad in that thread, if I were you I would have kept it in the past.

 

P.S. Whatever happened to Dotbum and LuckyPierre (aka Gibbon). Good posters.

 

you asked me to find where you referred to "planning". I knew you had, so there it is. From that point on you make more references in that thread. Just admit you were wrong instead of looking like a prat.

 

FWIW, it didn't take long but I'm not that arsed enough to look for more.

 

I thought you were giving up the football chat anyway. Or is it that you can't resist trying to outpoint me