Premiership fans

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7912357.stm

 

The Premier League has compiled research that has concluded that more Asians are attending top-flight matches than ever before and most follow the 'big four' - Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal.

 

But to find the story behind the statistics I have been travelling up and down England for the past few months to speak to season ticket holders, club officials, fans' groups and the Premier League itself to find out how many British Asians are attending games.

 

Cathy Long, who is the head of supporter relations at the Premier League, says football clubs must realise that the local community has changed around them and they need to reflect these changes.

 

"The clubs may be sitting there and saying we're not doing anything different but if the local community around you has changed then you do need to do something different to attract more British Asians to football grounds," she stated.

 

It's quite difficult to get the local community involved, purely because of what it was like in the 1970s and 80s with hooliganism

 

Villa marketing executive Ravinder Masih

 

In the past, football fans have tended to be white, working-class men but that has slowly been changing over the past decade.

 

It has become a more family friendly environment, there are family stands where drinking is banned, billionaire owners have invested and improved facilities at grounds and hospitality at football matches is bringing in the rich and famous.

 

This is what has been happening at football grounds in the Premier League, none more so than at Aston Villa.

 

Villa marketing executive Ravinder Masih is charged with owner Randy Lerner's vision of getting more of Birmingham's diverse community through the turnstiles.

 

"It's quite difficult to get the local community involved, purely because of what it was like in the 1970s and 80s with hooliganism.

 

"People remember that and associate football with hooliganism but slowly we're changing that perception by getting people into the family stand where they can experience the game in a safe and secure environment."

 

In Sunderland it is a different story. The Stadium of Light is situated on open ground not surrounded by terraced housing or a big Asian community.

 

606: DEBATE

What are your thoughts on the subject?

 

I travelled 200 miles to meet Malta Singh, a member of the Punjab Army, a group of Sikh fans who have embraced the club.

 

The message is loud and clear on Sunderland's website, click SAFC Against Racism and you will find a picture of Malta and his friends wearing red and white turbans in the crowd.

 

"The drummers come out, the red and white turbans come out on the big occasions where everyone is buzzing - our aim is to walk across the Tyne Bridge, eight Sikhs with their turbans and let's see what reaction we get from Newcastle United fans!" said Malta.

 

Malta now takes his family to the games and says racism is not a problem. He has had the odd comment but nothing that will deter him from following his beloved Sunderland.

 

But racism still plays a small part in deterring more Asians from attending football matches.

 

We're saying football is a place where every section of every community is welcome

 

Punjabi Wolf and author Jas Baines

 

Kick It Out director Piara Power thinks that clubs can still do a lot more to attract British Asian fans.

 

"Leicester City, for example, will have an ethnic minority majority in a few years and they need to understand that and reach out in a way that is meaningful. Also children who cannot afford to go to a match need to be given an opportunity to go and try it," said Power.

 

Lower down the leagues it is proving more difficult to engage the local community.

 

Abdul 'Butch' Fazal is the chairman of National Asians in Football Forum and has been trying to get more Asians into football for the last few years.

 

On most Saturdays he takes a group of British Asian children to a Luton Town game in a bid to ensure that the next generation of Luton fans will have more British Asian faces than ever before.

 

"For years Asians have been excluded from the game, so it is difficult to win that trust and confidence back. I think it's the not knowing what you are going to, so it's essential that parents and children get that match-day experience," he said.

 

It is a happier story in the Midlands. For the last five years a group called Punjabi Wolves have been making waves in Wolverhampton. They see themselves as the fastest growing ethnic minority supporters club in the world.

 

With more than 500 members and many of them non-Asian, Punjabi Wolves have managed to forge close links with Championship leaders Wolverhampton Wanderers.

 

Their aim is to help people, who have never experienced a match, feel safe and secure enough to go to a game.

 

Jas Baines is the author of 'Asians can't play football' and a Punjabi Wolf.

 

"We're saying football is a place where every section of every community is welcome. We know in the past it has had a bad image but Punjabi Wolves is a great example of showing that football is safe and cool, whoever you support."

 

Wolves chairman Jez Moxey thinks fans need to reach out to their local clubs and resolve issues unique to certain communities; such as letting in Sikhs who carry a ceremonial knife or Kirpan into the ground.

 

"We need to recognise that 15% of our local community is of Indian origin, so it's incumbent on us to make sure that in time 15% of our fans are Asian and we've made steps towards that," said Moxey.

 

"For example we were the first professional club in the UK to understand the importance of the Kirpan and allow it into the stadium."

 

The Premier League has carried out research into British Asians and will be handing its findings to its clubs. So even though more British Asians are attending football matches than ever before there is still much work to do.

 

A five-part BBC Asian Network series on Asian footballers and fans started on Monday 2 March and is on for the rest of the week from Tuesday to Friday as part of The Wrap at 1200 and 1800 GMT each day.

 

Nice to see football fans are becoming more ethically diverse, I'm sure you will agree.

[Jimbo 175]

turbanstiles more like

[Tom 14013]

Remember the Sunderland squad when they posed for 'Show Racism The Red Card' and only one player was black out of the entire squad and coaching staff

[LeazesMag 0]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7912357.stm

 

The Premier League has compiled research that has concluded that more Asians are attending top-flight matches than ever before and most follow the 'big four' - Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal.

 

But to find the story behind the statistics I have been travelling up and down England for the past few months to speak to season ticket holders, club officials, fans' groups and the Premier League itself to find out how many British Asians are attending games.

 

Cathy Long, who is the head of supporter relations at the Premier League, says football clubs must realise that the local community has changed around them and they need to reflect these changes.

 

"The clubs may be sitting there and saying we're not doing anything different but if the local community around you has changed then you do need to do something different to attract more British Asians to football grounds," she stated.

 

It's quite difficult to get the local community involved, purely because of what it was like in the 1970s and 80s with hooliganism

 

Villa marketing executive Ravinder Masih

 

In the past, football fans have tended to be white, working-class men but that has slowly been changing over the past decade.

 

It has become a more family friendly environment, there are family stands where drinking is banned, billionaire owners have invested and improved facilities at grounds and hospitality at football matches is bringing in the rich and famous.

 

This is what has been happening at football grounds in the Premier League, none more so than at Aston Villa.

 

Villa marketing executive Ravinder Masih is charged with owner Randy Lerner's vision of getting more of Birmingham's diverse community through the turnstiles.

 

"It's quite difficult to get the local community involved, purely because of what it was like in the 1970s and 80s with hooliganism.

 

"People remember that and associate football with hooliganism but slowly we're changing that perception by getting people into the family stand where they can experience the game in a safe and secure environment."

 

In Sunderland it is a different story. The Stadium of Light is situated on open ground not surrounded by terraced housing or a big Asian community.

 

606: DEBATE

What are your thoughts on the subject?

 

I travelled 200 miles to meet Malta Singh, a member of the Punjab Army, a group of Sikh fans who have embraced the club.

 

The message is loud and clear on Sunderland's website, click SAFC Against Racism and you will find a picture of Malta and his friends wearing red and white turbans in the crowd.

 

"The drummers come out, the red and white turbans come out on the big occasions where everyone is buzzing - our aim is to walk across the Tyne Bridge, eight Sikhs with their turbans and let's see what reaction we get from Newcastle United fans!" said Malta.

 

Malta now takes his family to the games and says racism is not a problem. He has had the odd comment but nothing that will deter him from following his beloved Sunderland.

 

But racism still plays a small part in deterring more Asians from attending football matches.

 

We're saying football is a place where every section of every community is welcome

 

Punjabi Wolf and author Jas Baines

 

Kick It Out director Piara Power thinks that clubs can still do a lot more to attract British Asian fans.

 

"Leicester City, for example, will have an ethnic minority majority in a few years and they need to understand that and reach out in a way that is meaningful. Also children who cannot afford to go to a match need to be given an opportunity to go and try it," said Power.

 

Lower down the leagues it is proving more difficult to engage the local community.

 

Abdul 'Butch' Fazal is the chairman of National Asians in Football Forum and has been trying to get more Asians into football for the last few years.

 

On most Saturdays he takes a group of British Asian children to a Luton Town game in a bid to ensure that the next generation of Luton fans will have more British Asian faces than ever before.

 

"For years Asians have been excluded from the game, so it is difficult to win that trust and confidence back. I think it's the not knowing what you are going to, so it's essential that parents and children get that match-day experience," he said.

 

It is a happier story in the Midlands. For the last five years a group called Punjabi Wolves have been making waves in Wolverhampton. They see themselves as the fastest growing ethnic minority supporters club in the world.

 

With more than 500 members and many of them non-Asian, Punjabi Wolves have managed to forge close links with Championship leaders Wolverhampton Wanderers.

 

Their aim is to help people, who have never experienced a match, feel safe and secure enough to go to a game.

 

Jas Baines is the author of 'Asians can't play football' and a Punjabi Wolf.

 

"We're saying football is a place where every section of every community is welcome. We know in the past it has had a bad image but Punjabi Wolves is a great example of showing that football is safe and cool, whoever you support."

 

Wolves chairman Jez Moxey thinks fans need to reach out to their local clubs and resolve issues unique to certain communities; such as letting in Sikhs who carry a ceremonial knife or Kirpan into the ground.

 

"We need to recognise that 15% of our local community is of Indian origin, so it's incumbent on us to make sure that in time 15% of our fans are Asian and we've made steps towards that," said Moxey.

 

"For example we were the first professional club in the UK to understand the importance of the Kirpan and allow it into the stadium."

 

The Premier League has carried out research into British Asians and will be handing its findings to its clubs. So even though more British Asians are attending football matches than ever before there is still much work to do.

 

A five-part BBC Asian Network series on Asian footballers and fans started on Monday 2 March and is on for the rest of the week from Tuesday to Friday as part of The Wrap at 1200 and 1800 GMT each day.

 

Nice to see football fans are becoming more ethically diverse, I'm sure you will agree.

 

I couldn't give a fuck. Whats the point of all this ?

 

"you do need to do something different to attract more British Asians to football grounds," what does THIS mean ? Does she want to put out prayer mats for them or something ? So far as I can see, nobody has ever stopped them going in the first place.

 

What a typical load of BBC politically correct garbage.

[Douggy B 0]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7912357.stm

 

The Premier League has compiled research that has concluded that more Asians are attending top-flight matches than ever before and most follow the 'big four' - Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal.

 

But to find the story behind the statistics I have been travelling up and down England for the past few months to speak to season ticket holders, club officials, fans' groups and the Premier League itself to find out how many British Asians are attending games.

 

Cathy Long, who is the head of supporter relations at the Premier League, says football clubs must realise that the local community has changed around them and they need to reflect these changes.

 

"The clubs may be sitting there and saying we're not doing anything different but if the local community around you has changed then you do need to do something different to attract more British Asians to football grounds," she stated.

 

It's quite difficult to get the local community involved, purely because of what it was like in the 1970s and 80s with hooliganism

 

Villa marketing executive Ravinder Masih

 

In the past, football fans have tended to be white, working-class men but that has slowly been changing over the past decade.

 

It has become a more family friendly environment, there are family stands where drinking is banned, billionaire owners have invested and improved facilities at grounds and hospitality at football matches is bringing in the rich and famous.

 

This is what has been happening at football grounds in the Premier League, none more so than at Aston Villa.

 

Villa marketing executive Ravinder Masih is charged with owner Randy Lerner's vision of getting more of Birmingham's diverse community through the turnstiles.

 

"It's quite difficult to get the local community involved, purely because of what it was like in the 1970s and 80s with hooliganism.

 

"People remember that and associate football with hooliganism but slowly we're changing that perception by getting people into the family stand where they can experience the game in a safe and secure environment."

 

In Sunderland it is a different story. The Stadium of Light is situated on open ground not surrounded by terraced housing or a big Asian community.

 

606: DEBATE

What are your thoughts on the subject?

 

I travelled 200 miles to meet Malta Singh, a member of the Punjab Army, a group of Sikh fans who have embraced the club.

 

The message is loud and clear on Sunderland's website, click SAFC Against Racism and you will find a picture of Malta and his friends wearing red and white turbans in the crowd.

 

"The drummers come out, the red and white turbans come out on the big occasions where everyone is buzzing - our aim is to walk across the Tyne Bridge, eight Sikhs with their turbans and let's see what reaction we get from Newcastle United fans!" said Malta.

 

Malta now takes his family to the games and says racism is not a problem. He has had the odd comment but nothing that will deter him from following his beloved Sunderland.

 

But racism still plays a small part in deterring more Asians from attending football matches.

 

We're saying football is a place where every section of every community is welcome

 

Punjabi Wolf and author Jas Baines

 

Kick It Out director Piara Power thinks that clubs can still do a lot more to attract British Asian fans.

 

"Leicester City, for example, will have an ethnic minority majority in a few years and they need to understand that and reach out in a way that is meaningful. Also children who cannot afford to go to a match need to be given an opportunity to go and try it," said Power.

 

Lower down the leagues it is proving more difficult to engage the local community.

 

Abdul 'Butch' Fazal is the chairman of National Asians in Football Forum and has been trying to get more Asians into football for the last few years.

 

On most Saturdays he takes a group of British Asian children to a Luton Town game in a bid to ensure that the next generation of Luton fans will have more British Asian faces than ever before.

 

"For years Asians have been excluded from the game, so it is difficult to win that trust and confidence back. I think it's the not knowing what you are going to, so it's essential that parents and children get that match-day experience," he said.

 

It is a happier story in the Midlands. For the last five years a group called Punjabi Wolves have been making waves in Wolverhampton. They see themselves as the fastest growing ethnic minority supporters club in the world.

 

With more than 500 members and many of them non-Asian, Punjabi Wolves have managed to forge close links with Championship leaders Wolverhampton Wanderers.

 

Their aim is to help people, who have never experienced a match, feel safe and secure enough to go to a game.

 

Jas Baines is the author of 'Asians can't play football' and a Punjabi Wolf.

 

"We're saying football is a place where every section of every community is welcome. We know in the past it has had a bad image but Punjabi Wolves is a great example of showing that football is safe and cool, whoever you support."

 

Wolves chairman Jez Moxey thinks fans need to reach out to their local clubs and resolve issues unique to certain communities; such as letting in Sikhs who carry a ceremonial knife or Kirpan into the ground.

 

"We need to recognise that 15% of our local community is of Indian origin, so it's incumbent on us to make sure that in time 15% of our fans are Asian and we've made steps towards that," said Moxey.

 

"For example we were the first professional club in the UK to understand the importance of the Kirpan and allow it into the stadium."

 

The Premier League has carried out research into British Asians and will be handing its findings to its clubs. So even though more British Asians are attending football matches than ever before there is still much work to do.

 

A five-part BBC Asian Network series on Asian footballers and fans started on Monday 2 March and is on for the rest of the week from Tuesday to Friday as part of The Wrap at 1200 and 1800 GMT each day.

 

Nice to see football fans are becoming more ethically diverse, I'm sure you will agree.

 

I couldn't give a fuck. Whats the point of all this ?

 

"you do need to do something different to attract more British Asians to football grounds," what does THIS mean ? Does she want to put out prayer mats for them or something ? So far as I can see, nobody has ever stopped them going in the first place.

 

What a typical load of BBC politically correct garbage.

 

Dont you think Seikhs should be encouraged to come to football by allowing them to carry knives at games?

 

I think it was certain elements of football support that made them feel unwelcome.

[Tom 14013]

Sort the quoting out man, ffs!

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

It's the balti pies.

[Douggy B 0]

Sort the quoting out man, ffs!

 

Excuse me?

[Tom 14013]

There is no need to quote the entire article and above post when your post is directly below.

[Douggy B 0]

There is no need to quote the entire article and above post when your post is directly below.

 

How do you know somone wont nip in and beat you to it?

[Jimbo 175]

[Tom 14013]

It's the balti pies.

 

Where did our Balti pies go

[Douggy B 0]

It's the balti pies.

 

Where did our Balti pies go

 

Stevies hidden them.

[Smooth Operator 10]

Those corner shop bad boys have a monopoly on the front row seats by the dug outs at Man U, everytime they cut to Sir Alex there a numerous turbanaters occupying the best seats.

[LeazesMag 0]

Dont you think Seikhs should be encouraged to come to football by allowing them to carry knives at games?

 

I think it was certain elements of football support that made them feel unwelcome.

 

what do you suggest we do to make anybody "more welcome". Bear in mind extra policing comes out of your pocket.

 

Its up to them if they want to go. Personally, I think we have laid enough mats for foreigners in this country, the country is fucking itself up from within and the last thing we need to do is to pander to more of this lot.

[Deano 0]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7912357.stm

 

The Premier League has compiled research that has concluded that more Asians are attending top-flight matches than ever before and most follow the 'big four' - Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal.

 

But to find the story behind the statistics I have been travelling up and down England for the past few months to speak to season ticket holders, club officials, fans' groups and the Premier League itself to find out how many British Asians are attending games.

 

Cathy Long, who is the head of supporter relations at the Premier League, says football clubs must realise that the local community has changed around them and they need to reflect these changes.

 

"The clubs may be sitting there and saying we're not doing anything different but if the local community around you has changed then you do need to do something different to attract more British Asians to football grounds," she stated.

 

It's quite difficult to get the local community involved, purely because of what it was like in the 1970s and 80s with hooliganism

 

Villa marketing executive Ravinder Masih

 

In the past, football fans have tended to be white, working-class men but that has slowly been changing over the past decade.

 

It has become a more family friendly environment, there are family stands where drinking is banned, billionaire owners have invested and improved facilities at grounds and hospitality at football matches is bringing in the rich and famous.

 

This is what has been happening at football grounds in the Premier League, none more so than at Aston Villa.

 

Villa marketing executive Ravinder Masih is charged with owner Randy Lerner's vision of getting more of Birmingham's diverse community through the turnstiles.

 

"It's quite difficult to get the local community involved, purely because of what it was like in the 1970s and 80s with hooliganism.

 

"People remember that and associate football with hooliganism but slowly we're changing that perception by getting people into the family stand where they can experience the game in a safe and secure environment."

 

In Sunderland it is a different story. The Stadium of Light is situated on open ground not surrounded by terraced housing or a big Asian community.

 

606: DEBATE

What are your thoughts on the subject?

 

I travelled 200 miles to meet Malta Singh, a member of the Punjab Army, a group of Sikh fans who have embraced the club.

 

The message is loud and clear on Sunderland's website, click SAFC Against Racism and you will find a picture of Malta and his friends wearing red and white turbans in the crowd.

 

"The drummers come out, the red and white turbans come out on the big occasions where everyone is buzzing - our aim is to walk across the Tyne Bridge, eight Sikhs with their turbans and let's see what reaction we get from Newcastle United fans!" said Malta.

 

Malta now takes his family to the games and says racism is not a problem. He has had the odd comment but nothing that will deter him from following his beloved Sunderland.

 

But racism still plays a small part in deterring more Asians from attending football matches.

 

We're saying football is a place where every section of every community is welcome

 

Punjabi Wolf and author Jas Baines

 

Kick It Out director Piara Power thinks that clubs can still do a lot more to attract British Asian fans.

 

"Leicester City, for example, will have an ethnic minority majority in a few years and they need to understand that and reach out in a way that is meaningful. Also children who cannot afford to go to a match need to be given an opportunity to go and try it," said Power.

 

Lower down the leagues it is proving more difficult to engage the local community.

 

Abdul 'Butch' Fazal is the chairman of National Asians in Football Forum and has been trying to get more Asians into football for the last few years.

 

On most Saturdays he takes a group of British Asian children to a Luton Town game in a bid to ensure that the next generation of Luton fans will have more British Asian faces than ever before.

 

"For years Asians have been excluded from the game, so it is difficult to win that trust and confidence back. I think it's the not knowing what you are going to, so it's essential that parents and children get that match-day experience," he said.

 

It is a happier story in the Midlands. For the last five years a group called Punjabi Wolves have been making waves in Wolverhampton. They see themselves as the fastest growing ethnic minority supporters club in the world.

 

With more than 500 members and many of them non-Asian, Punjabi Wolves have managed to forge close links with Championship leaders Wolverhampton Wanderers.

 

Their aim is to help people, who have never experienced a match, feel safe and secure enough to go to a game.

 

Jas Baines is the author of 'Asians can't play football' and a Punjabi Wolf.

 

"We're saying football is a place where every section of every community is welcome. We know in the past it has had a bad image but Punjabi Wolves is a great example of showing that football is safe and cool, whoever you support."

 

Wolves chairman Jez Moxey thinks fans need to reach out to their local clubs and resolve issues unique to certain communities; such as letting in Sikhs who carry a ceremonial knife or Kirpan into the ground.

 

"We need to recognise that 15% of our local community is of Indian origin, so it's incumbent on us to make sure that in time 15% of our fans are Asian and we've made steps towards that," said Moxey.

 

"For example we were the first professional club in the UK to understand the importance of the Kirpan and allow it into the stadium."

 

The Premier League has carried out research into British Asians and will be handing its findings to its clubs. So even though more British Asians are attending football matches than ever before there is still much work to do.

 

A five-part BBC Asian Network series on Asian footballers and fans started on Monday 2 March and is on for the rest of the week from Tuesday to Friday as part of The Wrap at 1200 and 1800 GMT each day.

 

Nice to see football fans are becoming more ethically diverse, I'm sure you will agree.

 

I couldn't give a fuck. Whats the point of all this ?

 

"you do need to do something different to attract more British Asians to football grounds," what does THIS mean ? Does she want to put out prayer mats for them or something ? So far as I can see, nobody has ever stopped them going in the first place.

 

What a typical load of BBC politically correct garbage.

 

This.

 

I couldnt give a flying fuck.....Zero importance.

[Douggy B 0]

Dont you think Seikhs should be encouraged to come to football by allowing them to carry knives at games?

 

I think it was certain elements of football support that made them feel unwelcome.

 

what do you suggest we do to make anybody "more welcome". Bear in mind extra policing comes out of your pocket.

 

Its up to them if they want to go. Personally, I think we have laid enough mats for foreigners in this country, the country is fucking itself up from within and the last thing we need to do is to pander to more of this lot.

 

[Guest Stevie]

Bradford should run out to Bhangra Neets.

 

I'm all for Asian integration, the more asians in a ground the less chance of any terrorist attacks too, because that would be the ultimate attack I reckon. At the end of the day they need to integrate, and I want to see an asian playing top level football, they have the athleticism, look at hard little cunts like Naseem, and Khan, so there's no excuse now.

[Douggy B 0]

Bradford should run out to Bhangra Neets.

 

I'm all for Asian integration, the more asians in a ground the less chance of any terrorist attacks too, because that would be the ultimate attack I reckon. At the end of the day they need to integrate, and I want to see an asian playing top level football, they have the athleticism, look at hard little cunts like Naseem, and Khan, so there's no excuse now.

 

Both the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks showed that isnt the case but give you your credit Stevie it was better than I expected.

[Guest Stevie]

Might even get Tiger beer or Cobra in the groond instead of shitey Carling.

[Guest Stevie]

Bradford should run out to Bhangra Neets.

 

I'm all for Asian integration, the more asians in a ground the less chance of any terrorist attacks too, because that would be the ultimate attack I reckon. At the end of the day they need to integrate, and I want to see an asian playing top level football, they have the athleticism, look at hard little cunts like Naseem, and Khan, so there's no excuse now.

 

Both the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks showed that isnt the case but give you your credit Stevie it was better than I expected.

What you on about ya daft cunt?

[Tom 14013]

Cobra and a Balti pie would be mint like

[Douggy B 0]

Bradford should run out to Bhangra Neets.

 

I'm all for Asian integration, the more asians in a ground the less chance of any terrorist attacks too, because that would be the ultimate attack I reckon. At the end of the day they need to integrate, and I want to see an asian playing top level football, they have the athleticism, look at hard little cunts like Naseem, and Khan, so there's no excuse now.

 

Both the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks showed that isnt the case but give you your credit Stevie it was better than I expected.

What you on about ya daft cunt?

 

Both attacks had a disproportionately high Muslim casualty count due to the locations of the attacks. Having asians in your ground wont protect you from an attack.

 

I personally think their are too many soft targets for terrorists to target highly policed events. Maybe pubs before a game.

Edited March 2, 2009 by Danny B

[Park Life 71]

Dont you think Seikhs should be encouraged to come to football by allowing them to carry knives at games?

 

I think it was certain elements of football support that made them feel unwelcome.

 

what do you suggest we do to make anybody "more welcome". Bear in mind extra policing comes out of your pocket.

 

Its up to them if they want to go. Personally, I think we have laid enough mats for foreigners in this country, the country is fucking itself up from within and the last thing we need to do is to pander to more of this lot. [1981/].

 

FYP.

[Park Life 71]

A thread about more Asian integration turns into a numpty debate about terrorism.

 

Pure gold.