McFaul 35 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 See this thread is relevant I think because no one is entertaining the idea we'll be relegated. Look at this though 2012/2013 P17 Pts17 Aveppg 1.00 2008/2009 P26 Pts28 Aveppg 1.14 I know it's a meaningless stat but we're average less points than we were when we were relegated. We have Man Utd, Arsenal and Everton in our next four games, that could even be P21 Pts18. If that fat bastard doesn't spend £15m in January, people who continue to support him deserve a kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 See this thread is relevant I think because no one is entertaining the idea we'll be relegated. Look at this though 2012/2013 P17 Pts17 Aveppg 1.00 2008/2009 P26 Pts28 Aveppg 1.14 I know it's a meaningless stat but we're average less points than we were when we were relegated. We have Man Utd, Arsenal and Everton in our next four games, that could even be P21 Pts18. If that fat bastard doesn't spend £15m in January, people who continue to support him deserve a kicking. We weren't too bad at the start of that season though. there was a 4 game run of defeats around the time Keegan went, but we never lost 2 on the bounce again until christmas. Christmas was fucking dreadful though, and we cashed in over January rather than fixing the problems. It was downhill from there losing 8 of our last 12. Which is where you've stopped taking the average for some arbitrary reason. We averaged 0.89 points per game over that whole season, so we're still staying above that. January is big though. Squad needs to see quality additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35601 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Aye, I think one point per game would probably be enough. I don't fancy putting that theory to the test like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The way we are tracking we'd go down imo. If we do fuck all in Jan (spending) we will. Last time around I remember saying a few times "there are 3 worse teams" but denial is a dangerous thing (if you cant swim etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 What worries me is that we've so far failed to beat Reading, the mackems, Villa, and Southampton. Anything less than a win against QPR then we'll have failed to beat anyone in the bottom half bar Wigan. Need to start beating people at home, simple as. I remember saying this in 2008/09 as well though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 We only lost 6 games to bottom half opponents in the entire relegation season. Home and away. If Stoke and Swansea drop into the bottom half, as is likely, then we'd be on 5 for this season. We only lost 3 home games to opponents outside the top 4 in the entire relegation season. We're on 2 already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Note I said 'win' at home. W5 D7 L7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Its a real possibility in my opinion. Especially dependent on January transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4222 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Cant disagree, after the last time we'd be silly to rule it out. Here's hoping the Fat One has learnt his lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 One thing we've got this season over 08-09 is relative stability. The club was an absolute mess the relegation season, from top to bottom. Laughing stock of the league, with good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 One thing we've got this season over 08-09 is relative stability. The club was an absolute mess the relegation season, from top to bottom. Laughing stock of the league, with good reason. One reason it's important we stick with Pardew. Sacking him, letting Carver take charge for a bit, bring in some manager who makes people go "Fuck me, I remember him!" and fannying about until we are relegated isn't the way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Carver beat Blackburn 3-0 man. Give him the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummiemag1 0 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 See this thread is relevant I think because no one is entertaining the idea we'll be relegated. Look at this though 2012/2013 P17 Pts17 Aveppg 1.00 2008/2009 P26 Pts28 Aveppg 1.14 I know it's a meaningless stat but we're average less points than we were when we were relegated. We have Man Utd, Arsenal and Everton in our next four games, that could even be P21 Pts18. If that fat bastard doesn't spend £15m in January, people who continue to support him deserve a kicking. Even if we spend £20m in January, (which is less than we should have spent in the summer), then I think anyone who supports him still deserves to be criticised. Surely no one still supports him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeris 0 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 We wull gat relagoited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Massive January coming up. Strengthen in the key areas and we'll be alreet. It's a crazy league so anything can still happen. We're still close to the mid table bunch so if we can get the confidence back and start getting results then we'll move up the table. Definitely need to address our lack of wins though, few players aren't pulling their weight at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I don t think I predicted we'd drop this season which basically means we're fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 We need to beat Qpr, Everton and Reading and S'ton at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Tall order Parky. Pardew was waxing lyrically about Reading "definately staying up" after we clawed onto a draw against them, only for them to get mullered by every other team in the division ever since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 Tall order Parky. Pardew was waxing lyrically about Reading "definately staying up" after we clawed onto a draw against them, only for them to get mullered by every other team in the division ever since Think it's do-able. We've played well the last 3 games - high tempo and so on...Word is Remy will arrive Jan1st. He has been shit for a couple of years but he can also be very good. Hatem and Remy either side of Cisse should be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) The problem is by the time hatem is back, we might well sit on our back on 3 more conseq defeats by which the morale damage would already be done. A case of too little too late me thinks. Good chance of going into the new year with 19-23 points at best. At worst..well. Thats really worrying. Edited December 18, 2012 by Lake Bells tits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Parky is right, we've got a set of home games there that are winnable but the key is we now REALLY need to win them. Draws against any of those lot really not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Good chance of going into the new year with 19-23 points at best. At worst..well. Thats really worrying. What you're saying is at best 19 points at worst 17 points? Quite a range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) The last couple of games have instilled a bit of hope but we still lost them. A team that cant defend and doesnt create chances has a chance of getting the relegation dogfight. Cabaye coming back fit and with his head on it is going to be huge. Edited December 18, 2012 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 At worst is our current tally, look at our upcoming fixtures. A few draws might be the best we can hope for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 The last couple of games have instilled a bit of hope but we still lost them. A team that cant defend and doesnt create chances has a chance of getting the relegation dogfight. Cabaye coming back fit and with his head on it is going to be huge. He has been dogshit up until his injury, but yeah I guess he would be an upgrade from what we have available atm. Personally I think Cabaye will leave in the january window. And you can quote me on that ( McFaul style) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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