Fat waste of space, tactically inept cabbage head Steve Bruce sacked by Newcastle United

[Isegrim 9733]

More tosh from Steve McPardew. It’s been pretty obvious for some time that Almiron was wasted and not comfortable on the right wing. We have also hardly looked a threat all season,  it just for about three or four games.

[Alex 34847]

Shelvey’s a match of the day player completely overrun against most modern PL midfields. He’d be one of the last players I’d by trying to commit to the club. The fuckwits in the crowd seem to love him though 

[Alex 34847]

4 hours ago, Isegrim said:

More tosh from Steve McPardew. It’s been pretty obvious for some time that Almiron was wasted and not comfortable on the right wing. We have also hardly looked a threat all season,  it just for about three or four games.

There a few of us on here pointed out ages ago he needed to be playing more centrally 

[247 597]

A changed tha formation cos me favourite takeaways numba ends in 4231 so a just thought it seems tha right thing to dee ya kna...... what was that about bacon? 

[thebrokendoll 9110]

canny article from fourfourtwo.

the main problem I have with pieces like this is that they're not the norm, not being written by the local press and more poignantly not even being understood by 50,000 profoundly stupid fuckwits.....

 

This FA Cup run merely masks Newcastle's sorry stasis under Mike Ashley

 

Newcastle United are through to the FA Cup quarter final after their win over West Bromwich Albion on Tuesday night.

 

Given what the club’s attitude has been towards domestic cups over recent years, that must be a real novelty. For as long as Mike Ashley has owned Newcastle, a succession of managers have seemingly tried to exit domestic tournaments as quickly as possible. The logic being that the first team squad is so narrow and the club’s focus is so trained on retaining the Premier League broadcasting revenue, that aiming for anything else has been turned into a frivolous pursuit.

 

The cut and thrust (the fun) of cup competitions are a nuisance. An obstacle, even, on the road to gilded stasis.

 

Newcastle are hardly alone in having that attitude, but it's a mentality which is hard to tolerate in football. It’s contradictory. The whole point of sport is competition, so watching it reduced to a form of risk analysis is enough to push any supporter towards existential crisis

 

 

Newcastle fans can speak for themselves; it’s not anyone else’s place to describe their relationship with their team. But it's discouraging to witness the wilful ignorance towards their dilemma - this faux-incredulity at their complaints about Steve Bruce. As if, after years of watching ambition being retracted – and it has been for nearly a decade and a half now – an appearance in a cup quarter-final is supposed to be some sort of recompense.

 

Perhaps that’s overstating things, but there does seem to be a growing habit of belittling these supporters. How often, for instance, have they been criticised this season for responding negatively to Bruce? Either to his initial appointment or the performances he has authored since

 

His football has often been dull, antiquated and unsuccessful, and pretending otherwise would just be disingenuous. Yes, Newcastle are unlikely to be relegated this season and, in a few weeks, they will probably have the privilege of being knocked out of the FA Cup by Manchester City, but it’s a strange world indeed when such meagre accomplishments represent ultimate validation.

 

“What do you think of Steve Bruce's Newcastle now then!”

 

Well, the same.

 

That they're a football team without a proper identity. That they exist in games without ever defining them. And that in spite of the odd encouraging result, they've made no ideological progress over the last six months.

 

The most pertinent conclusion remains a damning one: Newcastle are the only club in the Premier League that would ever have given Bruce another job at this level of the game. Not entirely coincidentally, they're also the only club in the Premier League that - quite literally - cannot give season tickets away.

 

That’s not necessarily an indictment of his abilities, more just a recognition that he isn’t a coach capable of taking a club on a journey worth buying into. He is an eighteen-month appointment. A do-the-best-you-can man. He is someone who can pick up the baton, carry it for a few hundred yards, but who will invariably trip over his own feet a short way down the track. Eventually the results will turn and his situation will become irretrievable and when that happens - when he clears out his desk and boxes up his lever-arch files - it'll be as if he was never there at all. .

 

He’s not going to change Newcastle’s realities as a club. He isn’t going to transform any of their players or encourage any sort of evolution.

 

 

So, what’s the point?

 

That’s not meant to be dismissive. It’s just that the trend in modern management is for precisely the type of head coach that Steve Bruce has never been. It’s a world of thinkers and doers, pragmatists and philosophers. The fans understand that; this is what instructed their original despondency. They knew that the occasional one-goal win over a top-six side would really just be a nice day out and that, a week or two later, their team would be back to where it was before, with all the same weaknesses and fragilities.

 

They knew that they wouldn't go anywhere under Bruce and, to date, they're being proven absolutely right.

 

A statistic which illustrates that: since beating Chelsea on the 21st January, Newcastle have not won a Premier League game. Since the 2-2 draw with Everton three days later, they haven’t even scored a Premier League goal.

 

The sequence itself isn’t the problem. The issue is the lack of growth. While one bad performances bleeds into another, the good performances - like the wins over Manchester United, Tottenham and that last-minute victory over Chelsea - never seem to instruct anything at all. They don't take anything from those games. Newcastle never get any stronger or better as a result and it's been that way - with the Rafael Benitez interlude excepted - for as long as anyone can remember.

 

It’s the same players playing in the same way every single week. The only real variable is the performance of the opposition.

 

Worst of all, there seems to be an acceptance from on high that that is the sort of football club Newcastle are happy to be. That they're content to be a victim. And happy for their supporters to be told that anything other than failure every year is cause for celebration.

 

A quarter-final is a nice moment and Wembley is finally in reach again. That's excellent; the fans deserve that. Here's hoping that they can somehow upend Manchester City. But it's very telling that 14th place and a win over a Championship team is what has become a "told you so" moment at Newcastle.

 

 

 

 

 

[Monkeys Fist 42068]

6 hours ago, Isegrim said:

That twat Rio came out again stating what great job the reincarnation of a BLT has done. Similar piece from the fat pig as well.

Did he mention his dead wife or was he not getting paid enough ? 

[Isegrim 9733]

5 hours ago, Alex said:

Shelvey’s a match of the day player completely overrun against most modern PL midfields. He’d be one of the last players I’d by trying to commit to the club. The fuckwits in the crowd seem to love him though 

Especially as he still had a year on his contract. There were certainly contracts that needed sorting first. I am not sure what the Longstaffs are making out of it regarding their plans for the future.

 I do also think that as soon as we are safe we will see the confirmation of the death of the latest takeover rumour.

[ewerk 30266]

The Longstaffs are local lads, they’ll play for tuppence. #CharnleyLogic

[Isegrim 9733]

12 minutes ago, ewerk said:

The Longstaffs are local lads, they’ll play for tuppence. #CharnleyLogic

They will surely want to play, something that won’t look guaranteed with Shelvey with his huge wages being considered as the future for the club.

[Kitman 2204]

I suspect Shelvey was keen to commit his future because no one else was interested in him

[Isegrim 9733]

57 minutes ago, Kitman said:

I suspect Shelvey was keen to commit his future because no one else was interested in him

And pay the same amount of wages for a short spell of decent performances every other year.

[thebrokendoll 9110]

2 hours ago, ewerk said:

The Longstaffs are local lads, they’ll play for tuppence. #CharnleyLogic

 

if I was the longstaffs old man I would be telling my two lads to get as far away from this shithole of a club as it's possible to get.

can't even begin to describe how incredibly sad that makes me feel.

Edited March 7, 2020 by thebrokendoll

[Ayatollah Hermione 13794]

Aye, we won’t get 50 million for Sean but the pair of them need to be at a progressive club with good coaching. It’s no real coincidence that the only player that’s come through the youth outside of Rafa’s spell is a limited defender. No quality at all.

[Isegrim 9733]

11 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

Aye, we won’t get 50 million for Sean but the pair of them need to be at a progressive club with good coaching. It’s no real coincidence that the only player that’s come through the youth outside of Rafa’s spell is a limited defender. No quality at all.

It’s been said that an unnamed German club is interested. I guess it’s either Dortmund or Leipzig and a move to either club could probably be the best for his career.

[trooper 940]

9 minutes ago, Isegrim said:

It’s been said that an unnamed German club is interested. I guess it’s either Dortmund or Leipzig and a move to either club could probably be the best for his career.

I wouldnt be surprised if Man Ure swoop in & take both Longstaff & Shortstaff in the summer.

[Dr Gloom 21813]

Shelvey was good last season under Rafa but he is one I’d consider letting go. Can be a passenger at times. The longstaffs are the future 

[thebrokendoll 9110]

1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said:

Shelvey was good last season under Rafa but he is one I’d consider letting go. Can be a passenger at times. The longstaffs are the future 

 

for who?

not for this shit show.

[Howay 12496]

If it’s true that they can’t sort Marty’s contract because they won’t agree to his £25k a week wage demands they’re even more pathetic than I thought. We’re paying Colback, who isn’t even registered, nearly double that apparently. It’s a very reasonable wage for a fairly regular squad player for a PL side ffs. 
 

According to Hope Bruce has told Matty to put football ahead of money, the kid is asking for pretty much the going rate for a player of his current stature and it’s definitely not a wage which the club would struggle with. If they were to buy Bentaleb to cover for Matty leaving it’d cost far more in wages, never mind having to also pay a transfer fee. 

Edited March 7, 2020 by Howay

[Dr Gloom 21813]

 

[Ayatollah Hermione 13794]

lol i get it, he's fat

[t00nraider2 41]

51 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

 

[Tdansmith 3211]

arrrh the old ..."lets make-e-on I'm a Newcastle United fan post" that will fool them 

[Dr Gloom 21813]

9 hours ago, t00nraider2 said:

 

 

[t00nraider2 41]

Dark Justice are on to you!

[Monkeys Fist 42068]

How did you get any sexual inference from the image Gloomy posted? 
Unless…