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Wins for Bolton, Arsenal, Villa & Newcastle today please.... :P

 

Not asking too much is it? :razz:

 

EDIT: Just realised, that'll relegate Boro & West Brom won't it? Hull would rely on goal swing of more than 9 against us next weekend. Not likely.

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Wins for Bolton, Arsenal, Villa & Newcastle today please.... :P

 

Not asking too much is it? :razz:

 

EDIT: Just realised, that'll relegate Boro & West Brom won't it? Hull would rely on goal swing of more than 9 against us next weekend. Not likely.

Especially as Man Utd would need a point in all likelihood.

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stoke cutting out the middle man and having delap just throw it right into the net

 

Beattie sealed victory soon after when he headed in Matt Etherington's cross.

That's how they spent their £4.5m in January. We got Nolan. Nice one :razz:

 

(I realise I'm sounding like a stuck record with this point).

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stoke cutting out the middle man and having delap just throw it right into the net

 

Beattie sealed victory soon after when he headed in Matt Etherington's cross.

That's how they spent their £4.5m in January. We got Nolan. Nice one :razz:

 

(I realise I'm sounding like a stuck record with this point).

 

Thing is though i reckon if those two were floated around at the time none of us would have been too happy, I think the majority would have preferred Nolan.

 

We also got Ryan Taylor for the crosses.... or so we thought... point is at the time most of us were excited with the little players we did manage to get in.

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stoke cutting out the middle man and having delap just throw it right into the net

 

Beattie sealed victory soon after when he headed in Matt Etherington's cross.

That's how they spent their £4.5m in January. We got Nolan. Nice one <_<

 

(I realise I'm sounding like a stuck record with this point).

 

Thing is though i reckon if those two were floated around at the time none of us would have been too happy, I think the majority would have preferred Nolan.

 

We also got Ryan Taylor for the crosses.... or so we thought... point is at the time most of us were excited with the little players we did manage to get in.

 

I think it's more a case of confidence than anything else. If Beattie had have come here, he'd probably have been shite - likewise Nolan & Taylor may flourished at Stoke. We'll never know.

 

What we do know is that in times like this, you need to buy a player who's not necessarily skillful or talented but who has a big heart, is solid and has a never say die attitude. It's why we bought Kilcline in 1992 - he stopped the rot giving his players the bollocking they needed.

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I don't agree. Beattie is a big strong centre-forward who would have given us a different option. Etherington is a genuine winger. Obviously we have the benefit of Hindsight but Nolan's a fucking joke of a central midfielder and Ryan Taylor is a Championship player. In any case, not selling Milner, N'Zogbia and Given (all three of whom would have started yesterday imo) would probably have been enough to keep us up. Apart from all the other mistakes the ins and outs under Ashley have been awful.

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I don't agree. Beattie is a big strong centre-forward who would have given us a different option. Etherington is a genuine winger. Obviously we have the benefit of Hindsight but Nolan's a fucking joke of a central midfielder and Ryan Taylor is a Championship player. In any case, not selling Milner, N'Zogbia and Given (all three of whom would have started yesterday imo) would probably have been enough to keep us up. Apart from all the other mistakes the ins and outs under Ashley have been awful.

 

 

It sums up Newcastle for the last 8 or 9 years... we've sold good players and replaced them with worse ones, and as a result the team gets worse. What a surprise eh?

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I don't agree. Beattie is a big strong centre-forward who would have given us a different option. Etherington is a genuine winger. Obviously we have the benefit of Hindsight but Nolan's a fucking joke of a central midfielder and Ryan Taylor is a Championship player. In any case, not selling Milner, N'Zogbia and Given (all three of whom would have started yesterday imo) would probably have been enough to keep us up. Apart from all the other mistakes the ins and outs under Ashley have been awful.

 

 

It sums up Newcastle for the last 8 or 9 years... we've sold good players and replaced them with worse ones, and as a result the team gets worse. What a surprise eh?

I think Ashley's taken it to a whole new level though.

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I don't agree. Beattie is a big strong centre-forward who would have given us a different option. Etherington is a genuine winger. Obviously we have the benefit of Hindsight but Nolan's a fucking joke of a central midfielder and Ryan Taylor is a Championship player. In any case, not selling Milner, N'Zogbia and Given (all three of whom would have started yesterday imo) would probably have been enough to keep us up. Apart from all the other mistakes the ins and outs under Ashley have been awful.

 

 

It sums up Newcastle for the last 8 or 9 years... we've sold good players and replaced them with worse ones, and as a result the team gets worse. What a surprise eh?

I think Ashley's taken it to a whole new level though.

 

Yup.

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I don't agree. Beattie is a big strong centre-forward who would have given us a different option. Etherington is a genuine winger. Obviously we have the benefit of Hindsight but Nolan's a fucking joke of a central midfielder and Ryan Taylor is a Championship player. In any case, not selling Milner, N'Zogbia and Given (all three of whom would have started yesterday imo) would probably have been enough to keep us up. Apart from all the other mistakes the ins and outs under Ashley have been awful.

 

Pretty basic isn't it! If they'd watched Nolan for any length of time this season they'd have seen he offered none of what we needed, ie pace, creativity and goals from midfield, and if they'd watched Taylor they'd know he isn't a prem player fullstop. Whether Beattie would have been a logical signing, i doubt it as we do/did have strikers available who can do enough that midfield was always the priority.

 

And selling Milner and Zog and not replacing them with players as good when they left was just typical NUFC. And Harper has come nowhere near Given's level of play in this spell, i do like Harper and think he's been excellent cover for Shay in the past but this run of games he's started to worry me a little to be honest.

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I don't agree. Beattie is a big strong centre-forward who would have given us a different option. Etherington is a genuine winger. Obviously we have the benefit of Hindsight but Nolan's a fucking joke of a central midfielder and Ryan Taylor is a Championship player. In any case, not selling Milner, N'Zogbia and Given (all three of whom would have started yesterday imo) would probably have been enough to keep us up. Apart from all the other mistakes the ins and outs under Ashley have been awful.

 

I'm not trying to up the abilities of Taylor & Nolan - just playing devil's advocate and suggesting it'd have just been our luck that they'd have performed elsewhere. I fully expect Michael Owen to play regularly wherever he plys his trade after leaving us.

 

Agree about Milner, Zoggy & Given BTW.

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I don't agree. Beattie is a big strong centre-forward who would have given us a different option. Etherington is a genuine winger. Obviously we have the benefit of Hindsight but Nolan's a fucking joke of a central midfielder and Ryan Taylor is a Championship player.

 

Thats the kind of forward planning this club needs you see. 5 year plan and all that jazz.

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I don't agree. Beattie is a big strong centre-forward who would have given us a different option. Etherington is a genuine winger. Obviously we have the benefit of Hindsight but Nolan's a fucking joke of a central midfielder and Ryan Taylor is a Championship player. In any case, not selling Milner, N'Zogbia and Given (all three of whom would have started yesterday imo) would probably have been enough to keep us up. Apart from all the other mistakes the ins and outs under Ashley have been awful.

 

I'm not trying to up the abilities of Taylor & Nolan - just playing devil's advocate and suggesting it'd have just been our luck that they'd have performed elsewhere. I fully expect Michael Owen to play regularly wherever he plys his trade after leaving us.

 

Agree about Milner, Zoggy & Given BTW.

Aye, I know what you're saying there.

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I really need a Celtic goal here fuckin hell 0-0 now 20 mins left, the Celtic fans are pure shite, no encouragement or fuck all. Just Irish famine songs.

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I don't agree. Beattie is a big strong centre-forward who would have given us a different option. Etherington is a genuine winger. Obviously we have the benefit of Hindsight but Nolan's a fucking joke of a central midfielder and Ryan Taylor is a Championship player. In any case, not selling Milner, N'Zogbia and Given (all three of whom would have started yesterday imo) would probably have been enough to keep us up. Apart from all the other mistakes the ins and outs under Ashley have been awful.

Fair comment. I'm convinced if Given was still here we'd be safe now. Harper for me just isn't a No.1. But Given wanted to leave...

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