timnufc 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) Why not have the role of bringing in young acemedy/reserve (16, 17 yr olds) players in only, and let the manager manage the first team, including who comes in and goes, on the budget that the club has? & frankly if that happened, or we get new owners, I'd have Keegan back as manager. Edited January 26, 2009 by timnufc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Jesus Christ. There are other managers in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6918 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Jesus Christ. There are other managers in the world. Not many that would want to come here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Jesus Christ. There are other managers in the world. It pisses me off a legend coming back (& wanting to) for unfinished business was messed up by an unessecary system/personal. Yes its the sentimental/romantic view, but what is football about? Really, you dont live forever, what is football about? But thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Jesus Christ. There are other managers in the world. There can only be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7095 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Football is about eternity in a celebration. A moment in 90 minutes. A field of grass transformed into a majestic stage of honour, a sacrifice for the gods. Football is about life and death and the futility of love. It's not over, nor has it begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Football is about eternity in a celebration. A moment in 90 minutes. A field of grass transformed into a majestic stage of honour, a sacrifice for the gods. Football is about life and death and the futility of love. It's not over, nor has it begun. It is everything and the last breath of humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7312 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Isnt that was his job was meant to be in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7095 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Football is about eternity in a celebration. A moment in 90 minutes. A field of grass transformed into a majestic stage of honour, a sacrifice for the gods. Football is about life and death and the futility of love. It's not over, nor has it begun. It is everything and the last breath of humanity. Cobblers man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6701 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Why not have the role of bringing in young acemedy/reserve (16, 17 yr olds) players in only, and let the manager manage the first team, including who comes in and goes, on the budget that the club has? & frankly if that happened, or we get new owners, I'd have Keegan back as manager. Has the sun just risen where you are sunshine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Isnt that was his job was meant to be in the first place Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Jesus Christ. There are other managers in the world. There can only be one. I am a big fan of Keegan don't get me wrong but we all knew bringing him back was a mistake and we knew it would end badly, we need to move on and look to the future. We need to establish stability and actually create a scenario that offers the manager something to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Jesus Christ. There are other managers in the world. There can only be one. I am a big fan of Keegan don't get me wrong but we all knew bringing him back was a mistake and we knew it would end badly, we need to move on and look to the future. We need to establish stability and actually create a scenario that offers the manager something to work with. I dunno, if the roles has been as advertised then it could have worked well enough, admittedly the money issue was clearly putting strain on thing even without other issues with the middle-management, but still. It's gone far beyond where Keegan could realistically come back now though, even if someone else bought the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Keegan was doing well and had us playing good football but I'm talking about the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10017 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Jesus Christ. There are other managers in the world. There can only be one. I am a big fan of Keegan don't get me wrong but we all knew bringing him back was a mistake and we knew it would end badly, we need to move on and look to the future. We need to establish stability and actually create a scenario that offers the manager something to work with. What a load of rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 What a load of rubbish. Keegan Returns There's quite a few comments in there predicting it would end badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) Jesus Christ. There are other managers in the world. There can only be one. I am a big fan of Keegan don't get me wrong but we all knew bringing him back was a mistake and we knew it would end badly, we need to move on and look to the future. We need to establish stability and actually create a scenario that offers the manager something to work with. I undertand that totally, and cant blame people for maybe not bieng all for it. The thing is, isnt football about pride? Hope? The day when KK came back showed why I love football. The genuine buzz & excitemnet when I heard the words 'Keegans back', everyone's phone bieng blocked with all the networks down, unable to ring as if it was new year, and the buzz you could feel in the air. People complain about some bieng obsessed about the past, and I understand that view point, but if some people are 'obsessed' about the past, then sometimes they kinda have a right to be. Because the magic that was brought by KK returning is the unique part of football & what makes me obsessed with this crazy game. 'Yes, its not garanteed he'll do brilliant, but if he does...'. I know some people say Keegan coming back was a disaster waiting to happen, but imo, Ashley's regime/'structure' was a disaster waiting to happen whichever self respected manager came in. Keegan coming back for unfinished business and achieving the pinnical, potentially winning something under him - not only winning a trophy, but winning a trophy under a legend, after waiting so long, is definetely what its about for me and something to strive for. Not to mention the fact he is actually a damn good manager, look whats happened at Everton with David Moyes (on a low budget) - he's built his own team, signing really well, and turned them into a side challenging the top 6 more often than not, and its very much a David Moyes team & a David Moyes club. He didn’t need Dennis Wise, because he's a quality manager, and if that’s the case, it speaks for itself. I don’t think David Moyes would very chuffed if Dennis Wise came back with Xisco after asking for a left back, but again, not that he'd accept that position anyway. Imo its the perfect example - have an understanding with your manager from the outset, then have total faith in him doing the job. Edited January 26, 2009 by timnufc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10017 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 What a load of rubbish. Keegan Returns There's quite a few comments in there predicting it would end badly. Some said it. And I doubt anyone had in mind that it would end because the owner would behave like a clueless numpty with a bunch of monkeys incapable of running a football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) Well we are the only club in the PL with this system, and look where its got us! Speaks volumes really. I agree he should be made "Chief European scout" or something along those line's where his soul purpose is the bring in talent for the future. Your other scouts should be the ones who scour europe and further afield for more "ripened" talent, players who can gel with 1st team affairs. They should only be presented to the management team (Manager and assistant) as suggestions. Isnt that how MOST clubs run? Not to mention the top 6. I hope one day very soon that MA wakes up to this, i know he has somewhat stabalised the clubs financial situation. And its all very well making moves to build a squad for 3-5 years time, but there are more pressing issue's. Finding players for the here and now, and DW should have NO part in that. On the other hand, i dont particually have much faith in JFK in realising quality players in the positions we need. Saying that, Ebondo and Mbia would go someway to ease my concerns. Then for a LB and cover for RW/CM... Baines and Skelbred anyone? Although two loanee's in those positions would probably be the best best until the end of the season. Edited January 26, 2009 by Geordie Lad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I'd have Keegan back in a heartbeat. To have a manager who can instill in our team the thoughts and hopes of the thousands of us who aren't lucky enough to wear that shirt professionally is highly desirable for me. Would it be good for us? I don't know - others can argue the toss about that. What I see is my club going down the toilet and it fills my heart with utter horror and I am certain Keegan would spend every waking moment trying to avert the catasrophe which looks certain to happen to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I'd have an almost infinite number of managers ahead of Kinnear right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Even Calderwood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Even Calderwood? almost I said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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luckyluke 2 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 What a load of rubbish. Keegan Returns There's quite a few comments in there predicting it would end badly. Some said it. And I doubt anyone had in mind that it would end because the owner would behave like a clueless numpty with a bunch of monkeys incapable of running a football club. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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