Lazarus 0 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 "It's hotter than hell" said Professor Marsh http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7780873.stm It has been described as a geologist's dream - a unique opportunity to study up close the volcanic processes that built the Earth's continents. Drillers looking for geothermal energy in Hawaii have inadvertently put a well right into a magma chamber. Molten rock pushed back up the borehole several metres before solidifying, making it perfectly safe to study. Magma specialist Bruce Marsh says it will allow scientists to observe directly how granites are made. "This is unprecedented; this is the first time a magma has been found in its natural habitat," the Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, professor told BBC News. "Before, all we had to deal with were lava flows; but they are the end of a magma's life. They're lying there on the surface, they've de-gassed. It's not the natural habitat. "It's the difference between looking at dinosaur bones in a museum and seeing a real, living dinosaur roaming out in the field." Professor Marsh has been discussing the discovery here at the American Geophysical Union's Fall Meeting 2008. In control This is not the first time drillers have encountered magma; the depth of the hit and the setting are, however, thought to be unique. The exploratory well was being put down in the east of Hawaii's Big Island, through the basalt lava fields formed by Kilauea Volcano. It could be this is how continents could have been started to be built on the planet Bruce Marsh The idea was to find steam from waters heated deep underground in fractured rock, to drive turbines on the surface to generate electricity. The company behind the project, Puna Geothermal Venture, has had a successful power operation in the area for 15 years. But the drillers were shocked - not only to hit magma but to also hit such a big heat source at the relatively shallow depth of 2.5km. "It's hotter than hell; it's over a thousand degrees centigrade," said Professor Marsh. Bill Teplow, a consulting geologist with US Geothermal Inc, who oversaw the drilling, stressed there was no risk of an explosion or of a volcanic eruption at the site. "It was easily controlled in the well bore because of the magma's highly viscous nature. It flowed up the well bore 5-10m but then the cool drilling fluid caused it to solidify and stop flowing," said Mr Teplow. "At no time were we in danger of losing control of the well." See Kilauea erupting earlier this year The breakthrough was made in 2005. Only now are researchers confident enough about their work to discuss the details publicly. They are not sure how large the magma chamber is, but some initial testing suggests it may have been put in place by activity from Kilauea in the 1950s, perhaps even the 1920s. Professor Marsh said the chamber was docile and slowly cooling. The consistency of the magma was like chilled pancake syrup, he said. It is hoped the site can now become a laboratory, with a series of cores drilled around the chamber to better characterise the crystallisation changes occurring in the rock as it loses temperature. The magma is a dacite, making it chemically distinct from the basalt which forms nearly the entire mass of the Hawaiian Islands and the surrounding oceanic crust. It has a much higher silica content. Hawaii Islands (BBC) Dacite magma chemistry is similar to that of the granitic core of the continents. Professor Marsh said the Puna material, therefore, may represent the first time that the actual process of differentiation of continental-type rock from primitive oceanic basalt had been observed in situ. "Granites are about 75% SiO2 and basalts are about 50%. Average continental material is probably in between, at about 60%," explained Professor Marsh. "Here's one that turns out to be 67% silica. It's up there; it's a very respectable silicic magma. And it's in the middle of the ocean, and it could be this is how continents could have been started to be built on the planet." Geothermal experts are also fascinated by the event. The Kilauea encounter is by far the shallowest and the hottest encounter of rock in a commercial operation, and it will be studied to see if there are lessons that can be applied to electrical generation project elsewhere in the world. "We were at about 2.5km which is pretty routine drilling depth," explained Mr Teplow. "But that is half the depth of experimental projects in Europe and Australia where they are drilling very deep into hot granite - some 5-5.5km down - and getting 260C rock; and here we're getting 1,050C rock." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 This kind of free energy should be replacing fossil fuels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) It's funny how they did this in 2005, but decided they'd better not tell anyone till now. (and I nearly posted this, but then if I'd done that and not made a comment to go with it [as above] the Dogs of Jonny would have been set loose, if I had made a comment the Dogs of Craig would have been set loose ). Edited December 17, 2008 by Fop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 0 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 "It's hotter than hell" said Professor Marsh "Lynn, it's hotter than the sun!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 "It's hotter than hell" said Professor Marsh "Lynn, it's hotter than the sun!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22405 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 "It's hotter than hell" said Professor Marsh "Lynn, it's hotter than the sun!" Good grief, has our favourite geologist been promoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake 0 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 When I saw the headline I feared that Magma had been gang raped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21486 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 When I saw the headline I feared that Magma had been gang raped Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7095 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Only way he could pass his test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 This is unprecedented; this is the first time a magma has been found in its natural habitat. Probably a daft question, but isn't lava the same stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 This is unprecedented; this is the first time a magma has been found in its natural habitat. Probably a daft question, but isn't lava the same stuff? Pretty much, but it's not in its "proper" state by that point, it's already exposed to the atmosphere (and loses and gains gases and minerals), is at different pressures, is cooling (and probably in a different structural state) and so is changed and changing. Whatever analogy I use will just be attacked so that'll have to do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 This is unprecedented; this is the first time a magma has been found in its natural habitat. Probably a daft question, but isn't lava the same stuff? Pretty much, but it's not in its "proper" state by that point, it's already exposed to the atmosphere (and loses and gains gases and minerals), is at different pressures, is cooling (and probably in a different structural state) and so is changed and changing. Whatever analogy I use will just be attacked so that'll have to do you. Makes sense. Cheers. Can't help thinking they wouldn't do it if magma was actually a malevolent spirit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 This is unprecedented; this is the first time a magma has been found in its natural habitat. Probably a daft question, but isn't lava the same stuff? Pretty much, but it's not in its "proper" state by that point, it's already exposed to the atmosphere (and loses and gains gases and minerals), is at different pressures, is cooling (and probably in a different structural state) and so is changed and changing. Whatever analogy I use will just be attacked so that'll have to do you. Makes sense. Cheers. Can't help thinking they wouldn't do it if magma was actually a malevolent spirit though. I think that's why they've waited so long, so they can say "see we haven't accidentally doomed us all". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 This is unprecedented; this is the first time a magma has been found in its natural habitat. Probably a daft question, but isn't lava the same stuff? Pretty much, but it's not in its "proper" state by that point, it's already exposed to the atmosphere (and loses and gains gases and minerals), is at different pressures, is cooling (and probably in a different structural state) and so is changed and changing. Whatever analogy I use will just be attacked so that'll have to do you. Makes sense. Cheers. Can't help thinking they wouldn't do it if magma was actually a malevolent spirit though. I think that's why they've waited so long, so they can say "see we haven't accidentally doomed us all". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43591 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) This is unprecedented; this is the first time a magma has been found in its natural habitat. Probably a daft question, but isn't lava the same stuff? simply put, magma is molten rock below ground, once it erupts or flows above ground it's called lava. see fop for gassy details Edited December 18, 2008 by Monkeys Fist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 This is unprecedented; this is the first time a magma has been found in its natural habitat. Probably a daft question, but isn't lava the same stuff? simply put, magma is molten rock below ground, once it erupts or flows above ground it's called lava. see fop for gassy details You can't handle the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43591 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Je ne chomp pas, mon ami. I should have known you were a vulcanologist too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Je ne chomp pas, mon ami.I should have known you were a vulcanologist too Don't think he's that interested in Mr Spock tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Je ne chomp pas, mon ami.I should have known you were a vulcanologist too It what you get when you live in a volcano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43591 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Je ne chomp pas, mon ami.I should have known you were a vulcanologist too It what you get when you live in a volcano. A burnt arse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21486 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I still cant stop laughing when I see this title and think of Magma getting bummed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15865 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 The phrase "Magma chamber" does have a certain "Monroe transfer" quality to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 It's funny how they did this in 2005, but decided they'd better not tell anyone till now. (and I nearly posted this, but then if I'd done that and not made a comment to go with it [as above] the Dogs of Jonny would have been set loose, if I had made a comment the Dogs of Craig would have been set loose ). got to write the reports and prepare the scientific papers first bloody idiots of course - if it had been gassy they'd have had the stuff on the surface in a few minutes................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 MAG-MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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