Happy Face 29 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Been on a 24 month contract and only now with 2 months until my upgrade is due am I having any misfortune. Volume button has dropped off and speaker is distorting, hence the pricing up. You don't get any of the O2 enticements with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13866 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I'm thinking of going on to Giff Gaff like and just keeping my Desire HD since it's as good as the day I bought it. Will just use their £10 a month top-ups since I use Twitter more than owt else tbh. Let me know how you get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Well I'll be interested to see if they have produced any innovation for this, cos the iPhone has barely changed since its inception. Interested to read there that they spend less than 2% of revenues on R&D and it shows. Their revenue has gone from 30bn in 2008 to 100bn in 2011, so a constant $ R&D spend is a drop from 10% to 2% of revenue over 3 years. It had the most successful quarter of any company ever in history at the end of 2011 driven by 2 products that didnt exist even 5 years ago. Bit churlish to call them out on innovation when a court of law has basically stated that everyone else copies them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21624 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 A court of law based a few blocks from their HQ. It's not an incontroversial verdict and will be challenged. Jobs was a visionary, no doubt. But he has now gone, ironically because of a character flaw in part. Will Apple innovate without him or will they maximise short term profits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Am I right in thinking that the Iphone 5 will no longer be available on O2 and will instead be exclusive to other companies, or have I misunderstood this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4385 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 A court of law based a few blocks from their HQ. It's not an incontroversial verdict and will be challenged. Jobs was a visionary, no doubt. But he has now gone, ironically because of a character flaw in part. Will Apple innovate without him or will they maximise short term profits? When you patent rounded edges somenthings wrong somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Samsung copied Apple, anyone with half a brain can see that. The court had to decide if the patents held by Apple meant the copying was illegal. The copying part isn't in question. Simple things like accessing an app via a touch sensitive icon are ubiquitous now but pre iPhone didn't exist and are the result of a hardware development philosophy that wanted to create a seamless user experience. Samsung had a bit of that. In fact they had a bit of everything that made the iPhone. Apple's court victory was about compensation for copying the design. Design is as much intellectual property as the mechanics underneath. You can't build a car to look like another one and expect to get away with it so the same applies for all products. But let's not forget what is quite simply understood by everyone in the tech industry, android is an iOS rip off and Samsung copies every single design feature of the iPhone. I don't blame Google or Samsung for adopting winning strategies nor Apple for bristling at blatantly being ripped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 15 mins to go. Is it on live anywhere or just forum updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7027 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I'm going for the galaxy note 2. I use my phone as a tablet most of the time anyway. Looking forward to seeing the 2year, £40pm deals sucker everyone in for the new iphone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21624 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Samsung copied Apple, anyone with half a brain can see that. The court had to decide if the patents held by Apple meant the copying was illegal. The copying part isn't in question. Simple things like accessing an app via a touch sensitive icon are ubiquitous now but pre iPhone didn't exist and are the result of a hardware development philosophy that wanted to create a seamless user experience. Samsung had a bit of that. In fact they had a bit of everything that made the iPhone. Apple's court victory was about compensation for copying the design. Design is as much intellectual property as the mechanics underneath. You can't build a car to look like another one and expect to get away with it so the same applies for all products. But let's not forget what is quite simply understood by everyone in the tech industry, android is an iOS rip off and Samsung copies every single design feature of the iPhone. I don't blame Google or Samsung for adopting winning strategies nor Apple for bristling at blatantly being ripped off. Maybe, not being a patent lawyer I don't know, sure Apple have 'ripped off' others as well though, eg the first GUI was from Xerox. I'm more interested in the future though. Too much patent protection isn't good for the consumer, that's for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 For any other saddos http://live.gdgt.com/live-iphone-5-launch-coverage/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7027 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 So its basically a longer iphone 4. Evolution rather than revolution and all that shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleeToonFan 1 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 4g supported with everything everywhere. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Facetime on cellular now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13866 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 New iPhone feature: Reset it to factory default and it transforms into a small Asian child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 shared photo stream sounds canny. Guessing you can instantly share without texting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 looks like prices are staying the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13866 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 shared photo stream sounds canny. Guessing you can instantly share without texting? Is that not just Instagram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Is that not just Instagram? ?? Im at that age (I'll avoid looking stupid and asking what that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13866 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 It's an app where you upload photos to it and whoever is in your friends list can see them. You can tag people so they get a notification from it and see it. No texting or owt required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 It's an app where you upload photos to it and whoever is in your friends list can see them. You can tag people so they get a notification from it and see it. No texting or owt required. That sounds very good and would probably save me a fortune texting photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 CT - instead of texting photos if your other friends have Smart Phones use WhatsApp instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 CT - instead of texting photos if your other friends have Smart Phones use WhatsApp instead. Whats the difference between that and the instagram thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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