Identify your local neighbourhood facist

[LeazesMag 0]

I think there are people like me who ARE NOT RACIST on this thread, who feel inhibited about what they can and can't say about race and immigration on here, because of the rules, PC, and constraints of free speech which have been opposed upon us over the last 12 years. I can't really add anything else to this apart from white people are second class citizens in their own country, we are, and it's because of the systems paranoia about appearing to be fair. Fucks me off, the whole country does. Life was much better 12-15 years ago.

 

A muslim can chant death to all British people, death to Britain and encourage terrorist attacks on our people, claim benefits and next to fuck all is done, THEY can march around London celebrating the attacks on September 11th, next to fuck all done. Yet a white wing group of 200 thugs are prevented from protesting at the attacks on the British people and against the views of a significant minority of muslim people, yet they are jailed???!?!?! Both are wrong but it's an example of why and how we have lost our own country to THESE people probably forever. I mean fucking hell walking round East London around Brick Lane, and all the fucking signs are in Punjabi, Churchill were turn in his grave, so would Enoch Powell (if he's deed). There's fuck all else I want to say.

 

You are a complete joke. When did the bit in bold occur? If you have no common sense or national awareness, I suggest you just shut the fuck up. As for the signs, none of them are in Punjabi, they are in sylheti (Bangladeshi). When you talk shiet about football, you can get away with it. But here, please just keep quiet.

Bangladeshi, Punjabi who gives a fuck, no wonder there's so many racist cunts in London. Muslim fuckin street signs fuck off. As for football you support a team from a city, you've never stepped foot in, in a sport that people from your culture despite having a population have NEVER produced ONE decent footballer, so I suggest you pipe down about that. Baitung Bhutia of Bury, the highest profile player in the history of a country with 1,000,000,000 people. You fucking wet behind the ears twat.

 

As for the bit I've put in bold you little non-entity cunt...

 

Farrukh Dhondy

London Muslims “Celebrate” 9/11

Jihadist mullahs urge 1,000 followers to learn the murderous lessons of the WTC attack.

11 September 2002

 

An obscene spectacle took place in North London earlier today. A thousand Muslims gathered at the Finsbury Park mosque to “celebrate” the bombing of the World Trade Center. The Metropolitan Police deployed a force 500 strong to protect the meeting, called “A Towering Day in History,” from disruption.

 

A dozen or so menacing-looking men with kaffiyehs over their faces stood on the mosque’s steps to prevent unfriendly journalists from entering.

 

The “celebration” began promptly at 1 PM, so that participants could applaud the action of the WTC bombers at exactly 1:46 London time—the exact time, a year earlier, when the first plane hit its target in New York. Chairing the meeting was Abu Hamza, an Egyptian-born engineer turned Muslim mullah, who presides over the notorious Finsbury Park mosque, where several of the detainees in Camp Delta, Guantanamo Bay, captured fighting for the Taliban and al-Qaida, received their theological training. Hamza also reportedly recruited to the jihad Richard Reid, the would-be shoe-bomber who failed to blow up an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami on December 22, 2001. The good Imam is implicated as well in the training and instigation of Zacarias Moussaoui, under arrest on suspicion of conspiring with the 19 murderers of September 11.

 

The FBI has applied for Hamza’s extradition from the U.K for questioning in the U.S. (the mullah has been a British subject since 1985), but he is still at large in London, free not only to address his congregation but to “celebrate” the events of 9/11. He told the press that Saudi Muslims financed the “celebration” in the hope that from it will arise an organization that represents “the real views of Muslims in Britain.”

 

Scotland Yard’s information office refuses to answer questions as to why Abu Hamza isn’t under arrest. Several leaders of the Muslim community in Britain allege that he is working for the British Secret Services—in particular MI5—as an agent provocateur, but the more likely explanation is that he is more useful to the surveillance services as a free agent than he would be in detention. The police outside the “celebration” had a dozen or so photographers videotaping or taking snapshots of everyone coming in or out of the mosque.

 

Hamza and his mosque act as a focus for young men who have taken the first step of embracing jihadi Islam. They have been known to “pass through” the Finsbury Park mosque and then branch out into clandestine training facilities and programs in Britain and abroad. At last count, the British Foreign Office reported that at least 4,000 British Muslims had received training from al-Qaida, the Taliban, or associated terror groups. Many of these came from Hamza’s congregation, which acts as a point of contact with networks abroad.

 

Hamza is in every way a sinister character. He is blind in one eye, and his left hand has been blown off and replaced by a metal claw. He claims in interviews that he lost his hand and eye when fighting the Russians in Afghanistan, and he uses these injuries as his warrior credentials. The claim is a lie. A British documentary producer, Alu Jamal, interviewed him on camera in Pakistan for a BBC film a year after the Russians left Afghanistan. The footage shows Hamza with his eye and hand intact. His injuries probably result from mishandling explosives.

 

Hamza is also wanted on criminal charges in Yemen in connection with an incident in 1998, when six young British Muslims, all of whom had at some point been under his tutelage, were arrested in that country on suspicion of terrorism. They were caught with weapons, explosives, plans, and maps—all of which they intended to use to attack British diplomats, their families, homes, offices, and church. When the men were captured and tried, they and their families in Britain instantly applied to these same diplomats whose families they had come to murder to represent them—as they were British citizens—and to secure their release from Yemeni justice. One of the young men ultimately convicted was Abu Hamza’s adopted son.

 

The trail of the terrorists led back to Hamza. Far from denying—as their families insisted on doing, despite the evidence—that these men were on a terrorist mission, Hamza said he was in favor of armed struggle against all agencies of the British state that supported corrupt regimes, and if these men, including his son, were found guilty and executed, they would be martyrs to the cause of Islam.

 

If this isn’t sedition, what is?

 

It was pure chaos outside the mosque. A handful of neo-fascists from the British National Party demonstrated under the banner “Keep Britain Out of Foreign Wars, Keep Foreign Wars Out of Britain.” Joining them on the street were a few hundred stalwarts of the Anti-Nazi League—there to protest not the evil “celebration” going on in the mosque but the presence of the British National Party!

 

The assembly adjourned twice for prayers, and the crowds flowed out into the courtyard, led by the muezzin. The star of the meeting was Omar Bakri, a cleric of Syrian origin who heads the sinister cult Al Mahajiroun, which draws its recruits mainly from the colleges and universities of Britain. Al Mahajiroun seeks to make Britain an Islamic state. Bakri told his rapt audience that they must learn the “lessons” of September 11—the murderous lessons, presumably.

 

SCUM

 

If we could turn back time....

 

There is much anger in him.

 

no reply though

[LeazesMag 0]

I think there are people like me who ARE NOT RACIST on this thread, who feel inhibited about what they can and can't say about race and immigration on here, because of the rules, PC, and constraints of free speech which have been opposed upon us over the last 12 years. I can't really add anything else to this apart from white people are second class citizens in their own country, we are, and it's because of the systems paranoia about appearing to be fair. Fucks me off, the whole country does. Life was much better 12-15 years ago.

 

A muslim can chant death to all British people, death to Britain and encourage terrorist attacks on our people, claim benefits and next to fuck all is done, THEY can march around London celebrating the attacks on September 11th, next to fuck all done. Yet a white wing group of 200 thugs are prevented from protesting at the attacks on the British people and against the views of a significant minority of muslim people, yet they are jailed???!?!?! Both are wrong but it's an example of why and how we have lost our own country to THESE people probably forever. I mean fucking hell walking round East London around Brick Lane, and all the fucking signs are in Punjabi, Churchill were turn in his grave, so would Enoch Powell (if he's deed). There's fuck all else I want to say.

 

You are a complete joke. When did the bit in bold occur? If you have no common sense or national awareness, I suggest you just shut the fuck up. As for the signs, none of them are in Punjabi, they are in sylheti (Bangladeshi). When you talk shiet about football, you can get away with it. But here, please just keep quiet.

Bangladeshi, Punjabi who gives a fuck, no wonder there's so many racist cunts in London. Muslim fuckin street signs fuck off. As for football you support a team from a city, you've never stepped foot in, in a sport that people from your culture despite having a population have NEVER produced ONE decent footballer, so I suggest you pipe down about that. Baitung Bhutia of Bury, the highest profile player in the history of a country with 1,000,000,000 people. You fucking wet behind the ears twat.

 

As for the bit I've put in bold you little non-entity cunt...

 

Farrukh Dhondy

London Muslims “Celebrate” 9/11

Jihadist mullahs urge 1,000 followers to learn the murderous lessons of the WTC attack.

11 September 2002

 

An obscene spectacle took place in North London earlier today. A thousand Muslims gathered at the Finsbury Park mosque to “celebrate” the bombing of the World Trade Center. The Metropolitan Police deployed a force 500 strong to protect the meeting, called “A Towering Day in History,” from disruption.

 

A dozen or so menacing-looking men with kaffiyehs over their faces stood on the mosque’s steps to prevent unfriendly journalists from entering.

 

The “celebration” began promptly at 1 PM, so that participants could applaud the action of the WTC bombers at exactly 1:46 London time—the exact time, a year earlier, when the first plane hit its target in New York. Chairing the meeting was Abu Hamza, an Egyptian-born engineer turned Muslim mullah, who presides over the notorious Finsbury Park mosque, where several of the detainees in Camp Delta, Guantanamo Bay, captured fighting for the Taliban and al-Qaida, received their theological training. Hamza also reportedly recruited to the jihad Richard Reid, the would-be shoe-bomber who failed to blow up an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami on December 22, 2001. The good Imam is implicated as well in the training and instigation of Zacarias Moussaoui, under arrest on suspicion of conspiring with the 19 murderers of September 11.

 

The FBI has applied for Hamza’s extradition from the U.K for questioning in the U.S. (the mullah has been a British subject since 1985), but he is still at large in London, free not only to address his congregation but to “celebrate” the events of 9/11. He told the press that Saudi Muslims financed the “celebration” in the hope that from it will arise an organization that represents “the real views of Muslims in Britain.”

 

Scotland Yard’s information office refuses to answer questions as to why Abu Hamza isn’t under arrest. Several leaders of the Muslim community in Britain allege that he is working for the British Secret Services—in particular MI5—as an agent provocateur, but the more likely explanation is that he is more useful to the surveillance services as a free agent than he would be in detention. The police outside the “celebration” had a dozen or so photographers videotaping or taking snapshots of everyone coming in or out of the mosque.

 

Hamza and his mosque act as a focus for young men who have taken the first step of embracing jihadi Islam. They have been known to “pass through” the Finsbury Park mosque and then branch out into clandestine training facilities and programs in Britain and abroad. At last count, the British Foreign Office reported that at least 4,000 British Muslims had received training from al-Qaida, the Taliban, or associated terror groups. Many of these came from Hamza’s congregation, which acts as a point of contact with networks abroad.

 

Hamza is in every way a sinister character. He is blind in one eye, and his left hand has been blown off and replaced by a metal claw. He claims in interviews that he lost his hand and eye when fighting the Russians in Afghanistan, and he uses these injuries as his warrior credentials. The claim is a lie. A British documentary producer, Alu Jamal, interviewed him on camera in Pakistan for a BBC film a year after the Russians left Afghanistan. The footage shows Hamza with his eye and hand intact. His injuries probably result from mishandling explosives.

 

Hamza is also wanted on criminal charges in Yemen in connection with an incident in 1998, when six young British Muslims, all of whom had at some point been under his tutelage, were arrested in that country on suspicion of terrorism. They were caught with weapons, explosives, plans, and maps—all of which they intended to use to attack British diplomats, their families, homes, offices, and church. When the men were captured and tried, they and their families in Britain instantly applied to these same diplomats whose families they had come to murder to represent them—as they were British citizens—and to secure their release from Yemeni justice. One of the young men ultimately convicted was Abu Hamza’s adopted son.

 

The trail of the terrorists led back to Hamza. Far from denying—as their families insisted on doing, despite the evidence—that these men were on a terrorist mission, Hamza said he was in favor of armed struggle against all agencies of the British state that supported corrupt regimes, and if these men, including his son, were found guilty and executed, they would be martyrs to the cause of Islam.

 

If this isn’t sedition, what is?

 

It was pure chaos outside the mosque. A handful of neo-fascists from the British National Party demonstrated under the banner “Keep Britain Out of Foreign Wars, Keep Foreign Wars Out of Britain.” Joining them on the street were a few hundred stalwarts of the Anti-Nazi League—there to protest not the evil “celebration” going on in the mosque but the presence of the British National Party!

 

The assembly adjourned twice for prayers, and the crowds flowed out into the courtyard, led by the muezzin. The star of the meeting was Omar Bakri, a cleric of Syrian origin who heads the sinister cult Al Mahajiroun, which draws its recruits mainly from the colleges and universities of Britain. Al Mahajiroun seeks to make Britain an Islamic state. Bakri told his rapt audience that they must learn the “lessons” of September 11—the murderous lessons, presumably.

 

SCUM

 

If we could turn back time....

 

In your own words, 'next to fuck all is done', yet the subject of that article, Abu Hamza, has now been extradited. Also as Alex pointed out, many of the lot below (who are utter tossers, it goes without saying) have got previously unheard of sentences. And yet you reckon we have lost our country to 'these' people for ever? As I said before the word pathetic springs to mind, get a grip man.

 

The question was asked WHEN did muslims march and hold rallies themed death to Britain/USA/Celebrating 9/11 etc.. and I supplied the answer so fuck knows why you are replying this load of bollocks to this particular post.

 

However, Abu Hamza has been taken out of the equation so that's it is it?? That Channel Four documentary last year told me everything I needed to know 1 in 3 thought the attacks on New York were justified, 1 in 4 thought the 7/7 attacks were justifiable collateral damage. I don't generally read the Daily Star but their editorial said it all today about the gross injustices between how protected ethnic people are in our society and how poorly protected we are. There's one rule for them and one for us. It said it all, imagine the outcry if 10,000 suspected anti-British English muslims names, phone numbers and addresses were give out. I find people like you PATHETIC, not just pathetic sickening even.

 

I was responding to your OP in this nest of quotes, the bit where you said 'fuck all is done'. You've been proved wrong on that score, admit it.

 

Call me pathetic if you like, but I'm not the wanting coming out with a load of racist tosh and at the same time screaming I'm not a racist, I'm not the one who voted BNP as a 'protest', I'm not the one who is obviously full of hatred and vitriol (and shit for that matter), and I'm not the one who evidently doesn't like this country any more, because of the imaginary PC brigade and a few muslim nutters. That would be you.

 

you like this phrase don't you.

 

Is it the substitute for your old comment of "thick bastard" to anyone who disagrees with you ?

 

I'd love to know what qualifies you as being so superior and more intelligent than others you think are mere mortals.....but on the other hand, don't change, your immaturity gives me a laugh from time to time.

Edited November 21, 2008 by LeazesMag

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3982]

I think there are people like me who ARE NOT RACIST on this thread, who feel inhibited about what they can and can't say about race and immigration on here, because of the rules, PC, and constraints of free speech which have been opposed upon us over the last 12 years. I can't really add anything else to this apart from white people are second class citizens in their own country, we are, and it's because of the systems paranoia about appearing to be fair. Fucks me off, the whole country does. Life was much better 12-15 years ago.

 

A muslim can chant death to all British people, death to Britain and encourage terrorist attacks on our people, claim benefits and next to fuck all is done, THEY can march around London celebrating the attacks on September 11th, next to fuck all done. Yet a white wing group of 200 thugs are prevented from protesting at the attacks on the British people and against the views of a significant minority of muslim people, yet they are jailed???!?!?! Both are wrong but it's an example of why and how we have lost our own country to THESE people probably forever. I mean fucking hell walking round East London around Brick Lane, and all the fucking signs are in Punjabi, Churchill were turn in his grave, so would Enoch Powell (if he's deed). There's fuck all else I want to say.

 

You are a complete joke. When did the bit in bold occur? If you have no common sense or national awareness, I suggest you just shut the fuck up. As for the signs, none of them are in Punjabi, they are in sylheti (Bangladeshi). When you talk shiet about football, you can get away with it. But here, please just keep quiet.

Bangladeshi, Punjabi who gives a fuck, no wonder there's so many racist cunts in London. Muslim fuckin street signs fuck off. As for football you support a team from a city, you've never stepped foot in, in a sport that people from your culture despite having a population have NEVER produced ONE decent footballer, so I suggest you pipe down about that. Baitung Bhutia of Bury, the highest profile player in the history of a country with 1,000,000,000 people. You fucking wet behind the ears twat.

 

As for the bit I've put in bold you little non-entity cunt...

 

Farrukh Dhondy

London Muslims “Celebrate” 9/11

Jihadist mullahs urge 1,000 followers to learn the murderous lessons of the WTC attack.

11 September 2002

 

An obscene spectacle took place in North London earlier today. A thousand Muslims gathered at the Finsbury Park mosque to “celebrate” the bombing of the World Trade Center. The Metropolitan Police deployed a force 500 strong to protect the meeting, called “A Towering Day in History,” from disruption.

 

A dozen or so menacing-looking men with kaffiyehs over their faces stood on the mosque’s steps to prevent unfriendly journalists from entering.

 

The “celebration” began promptly at 1 PM, so that participants could applaud the action of the WTC bombers at exactly 1:46 London time—the exact time, a year earlier, when the first plane hit its target in New York. Chairing the meeting was Abu Hamza, an Egyptian-born engineer turned Muslim mullah, who presides over the notorious Finsbury Park mosque, where several of the detainees in Camp Delta, Guantanamo Bay, captured fighting for the Taliban and al-Qaida, received their theological training. Hamza also reportedly recruited to the jihad Richard Reid, the would-be shoe-bomber who failed to blow up an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami on December 22, 2001. The good Imam is implicated as well in the training and instigation of Zacarias Moussaoui, under arrest on suspicion of conspiring with the 19 murderers of September 11.

 

The FBI has applied for Hamza’s extradition from the U.K for questioning in the U.S. (the mullah has been a British subject since 1985), but he is still at large in London, free not only to address his congregation but to “celebrate” the events of 9/11. He told the press that Saudi Muslims financed the “celebration” in the hope that from it will arise an organization that represents “the real views of Muslims in Britain.”

 

Scotland Yard’s information office refuses to answer questions as to why Abu Hamza isn’t under arrest. Several leaders of the Muslim community in Britain allege that he is working for the British Secret Services—in particular MI5—as an agent provocateur, but the more likely explanation is that he is more useful to the surveillance services as a free agent than he would be in detention. The police outside the “celebration” had a dozen or so photographers videotaping or taking snapshots of everyone coming in or out of the mosque.

 

Hamza and his mosque act as a focus for young men who have taken the first step of embracing jihadi Islam. They have been known to “pass through” the Finsbury Park mosque and then branch out into clandestine training facilities and programs in Britain and abroad. At last count, the British Foreign Office reported that at least 4,000 British Muslims had received training from al-Qaida, the Taliban, or associated terror groups. Many of these came from Hamza’s congregation, which acts as a point of contact with networks abroad.

 

Hamza is in every way a sinister character. He is blind in one eye, and his left hand has been blown off and replaced by a metal claw. He claims in interviews that he lost his hand and eye when fighting the Russians in Afghanistan, and he uses these injuries as his warrior credentials. The claim is a lie. A British documentary producer, Alu Jamal, interviewed him on camera in Pakistan for a BBC film a year after the Russians left Afghanistan. The footage shows Hamza with his eye and hand intact. His injuries probably result from mishandling explosives.

 

Hamza is also wanted on criminal charges in Yemen in connection with an incident in 1998, when six young British Muslims, all of whom had at some point been under his tutelage, were arrested in that country on suspicion of terrorism. They were caught with weapons, explosives, plans, and maps—all of which they intended to use to attack British diplomats, their families, homes, offices, and church. When the men were captured and tried, they and their families in Britain instantly applied to these same diplomats whose families they had come to murder to represent them—as they were British citizens—and to secure their release from Yemeni justice. One of the young men ultimately convicted was Abu Hamza’s adopted son.

 

The trail of the terrorists led back to Hamza. Far from denying—as their families insisted on doing, despite the evidence—that these men were on a terrorist mission, Hamza said he was in favor of armed struggle against all agencies of the British state that supported corrupt regimes, and if these men, including his son, were found guilty and executed, they would be martyrs to the cause of Islam.

 

If this isn’t sedition, what is?

 

It was pure chaos outside the mosque. A handful of neo-fascists from the British National Party demonstrated under the banner “Keep Britain Out of Foreign Wars, Keep Foreign Wars Out of Britain.” Joining them on the street were a few hundred stalwarts of the Anti-Nazi League—there to protest not the evil “celebration” going on in the mosque but the presence of the British National Party!

 

The assembly adjourned twice for prayers, and the crowds flowed out into the courtyard, led by the muezzin. The star of the meeting was Omar Bakri, a cleric of Syrian origin who heads the sinister cult Al Mahajiroun, which draws its recruits mainly from the colleges and universities of Britain. Al Mahajiroun seeks to make Britain an Islamic state. Bakri told his rapt audience that they must learn the “lessons” of September 11—the murderous lessons, presumably.

 

SCUM

 

If we could turn back time....

 

There is much anger in him.

No anger at all. Just disappointment at how much England has changed. I think you're a magician, you make 3000 posts full of words and manage to say nothing.

 

I could say I have found your posts full of nothing but bile and ignorance. Is that better? I could also say you cant read or cant count how about that? I could say that you have seemed nothing more than a xenophobe with no idea of history or society how does that sound? Stiil not hearing anything then I suggest in future just ignore my posts and I will try and do the same with yours.

Edited November 21, 2008 by Kevin Carr's Gloves

[Guest Stevie]

I think there are people like me who ARE NOT RACIST on this thread, who feel inhibited about what they can and can't say about race and immigration on here, because of the rules, PC, and constraints of free speech which have been opposed upon us over the last 12 years. I can't really add anything else to this apart from white people are second class citizens in their own country, we are, and it's because of the systems paranoia about appearing to be fair. Fucks me off, the whole country does. Life was much better 12-15 years ago.

 

A muslim can chant death to all British people, death to Britain and encourage terrorist attacks on our people, claim benefits and next to fuck all is done, THEY can march around London celebrating the attacks on September 11th, next to fuck all done. Yet a white wing group of 200 thugs are prevented from protesting at the attacks on the British people and against the views of a significant minority of muslim people, yet they are jailed???!?!?! Both are wrong but it's an example of why and how we have lost our own country to THESE people probably forever. I mean fucking hell walking round East London around Brick Lane, and all the fucking signs are in Punjabi, Churchill were turn in his grave, so would Enoch Powell (if he's deed). There's fuck all else I want to say.

 

You are a complete joke. When did the bit in bold occur? If you have no common sense or national awareness, I suggest you just shut the fuck up. As for the signs, none of them are in Punjabi, they are in sylheti (Bangladeshi). When you talk shiet about football, you can get away with it. But here, please just keep quiet.

Bangladeshi, Punjabi who gives a fuck, no wonder there's so many racist cunts in London. Muslim fuckin street signs fuck off. As for football you support a team from a city, you've never stepped foot in, in a sport that people from your culture despite having a population have NEVER produced ONE decent footballer, so I suggest you pipe down about that. Baitung Bhutia of Bury, the highest profile player in the history of a country with 1,000,000,000 people. You fucking wet behind the ears twat.

 

As for the bit I've put in bold you little non-entity cunt...

 

Farrukh Dhondy

London Muslims “Celebrate” 9/11

Jihadist mullahs urge 1,000 followers to learn the murderous lessons of the WTC attack.

11 September 2002

 

An obscene spectacle took place in North London earlier today. A thousand Muslims gathered at the Finsbury Park mosque to “celebrate” the bombing of the World Trade Center. The Metropolitan Police deployed a force 500 strong to protect the meeting, called “A Towering Day in History,” from disruption.

 

A dozen or so menacing-looking men with kaffiyehs over their faces stood on the mosque’s steps to prevent unfriendly journalists from entering.

 

The “celebration” began promptly at 1 PM, so that participants could applaud the action of the WTC bombers at exactly 1:46 London time—the exact time, a year earlier, when the first plane hit its target in New York. Chairing the meeting was Abu Hamza, an Egyptian-born engineer turned Muslim mullah, who presides over the notorious Finsbury Park mosque, where several of the detainees in Camp Delta, Guantanamo Bay, captured fighting for the Taliban and al-Qaida, received their theological training. Hamza also reportedly recruited to the jihad Richard Reid, the would-be shoe-bomber who failed to blow up an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami on December 22, 2001. The good Imam is implicated as well in the training and instigation of Zacarias Moussaoui, under arrest on suspicion of conspiring with the 19 murderers of September 11.

 

The FBI has applied for Hamza’s extradition from the U.K for questioning in the U.S. (the mullah has been a British subject since 1985), but he is still at large in London, free not only to address his congregation but to “celebrate” the events of 9/11. He told the press that Saudi Muslims financed the “celebration” in the hope that from it will arise an organization that represents “the real views of Muslims in Britain.”

 

Scotland Yard’s information office refuses to answer questions as to why Abu Hamza isn’t under arrest. Several leaders of the Muslim community in Britain allege that he is working for the British Secret Services—in particular MI5—as an agent provocateur, but the more likely explanation is that he is more useful to the surveillance services as a free agent than he would be in detention. The police outside the “celebration” had a dozen or so photographers videotaping or taking snapshots of everyone coming in or out of the mosque.

 

Hamza and his mosque act as a focus for young men who have taken the first step of embracing jihadi Islam. They have been known to “pass through” the Finsbury Park mosque and then branch out into clandestine training facilities and programs in Britain and abroad. At last count, the British Foreign Office reported that at least 4,000 British Muslims had received training from al-Qaida, the Taliban, or associated terror groups. Many of these came from Hamza’s congregation, which acts as a point of contact with networks abroad.

 

Hamza is in every way a sinister character. He is blind in one eye, and his left hand has been blown off and replaced by a metal claw. He claims in interviews that he lost his hand and eye when fighting the Russians in Afghanistan, and he uses these injuries as his warrior credentials. The claim is a lie. A British documentary producer, Alu Jamal, interviewed him on camera in Pakistan for a BBC film a year after the Russians left Afghanistan. The footage shows Hamza with his eye and hand intact. His injuries probably result from mishandling explosives.

 

Hamza is also wanted on criminal charges in Yemen in connection with an incident in 1998, when six young British Muslims, all of whom had at some point been under his tutelage, were arrested in that country on suspicion of terrorism. They were caught with weapons, explosives, plans, and maps—all of which they intended to use to attack British diplomats, their families, homes, offices, and church. When the men were captured and tried, they and their families in Britain instantly applied to these same diplomats whose families they had come to murder to represent them—as they were British citizens—and to secure their release from Yemeni justice. One of the young men ultimately convicted was Abu Hamza’s adopted son.

 

The trail of the terrorists led back to Hamza. Far from denying—as their families insisted on doing, despite the evidence—that these men were on a terrorist mission, Hamza said he was in favor of armed struggle against all agencies of the British state that supported corrupt regimes, and if these men, including his son, were found guilty and executed, they would be martyrs to the cause of Islam.

 

If this isn’t sedition, what is?

 

It was pure chaos outside the mosque. A handful of neo-fascists from the British National Party demonstrated under the banner “Keep Britain Out of Foreign Wars, Keep Foreign Wars Out of Britain.” Joining them on the street were a few hundred stalwarts of the Anti-Nazi League—there to protest not the evil “celebration” going on in the mosque but the presence of the British National Party!

 

The assembly adjourned twice for prayers, and the crowds flowed out into the courtyard, led by the muezzin. The star of the meeting was Omar Bakri, a cleric of Syrian origin who heads the sinister cult Al Mahajiroun, which draws its recruits mainly from the colleges and universities of Britain. Al Mahajiroun seeks to make Britain an Islamic state. Bakri told his rapt audience that they must learn the “lessons” of September 11—the murderous lessons, presumably.

 

SCUM

 

If we could turn back time....

 

There is much anger in him.

No anger at all. Just disappointment at how much England has changed. I think you're a magician, you make 3000 posts full of words and manage to say nothing.

 

I could say I have found your posts full of nothing but bile and ignorance. Is that better? could say I have found your posts full of nothing but bile and ignorance. Is that better? I could also say you cant read or cant count how about that? I could say that you have seemed nothing more than a xenophobe with no idea of history or society how does that sound? Stiil not hearing anything then I suggest in future just ignore my posts and I will try and do the same with yours.

I could say I have found your posts full of nothing but tediousness and arrogance. Is that better? I could also say you can't punctuate or communicate effectively how about that? I could say that you have seemed nothing more than a pompous wanker with no idea of history and it's relevance to our future in this country how does that sound? Still burying your head in the sand, I will in future ignore the posts of a clear and present tired old man yes.

Edited November 21, 2008 by Stevie

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3982]

I think there are people like me who ARE NOT RACIST on this thread, who feel inhibited about what they can and can't say about race and immigration on here, because of the rules, PC, and constraints of free speech which have been opposed upon us over the last 12 years. I can't really add anything else to this apart from white people are second class citizens in their own country, we are, and it's because of the systems paranoia about appearing to be fair. Fucks me off, the whole country does. Life was much better 12-15 years ago.

 

A muslim can chant death to all British people, death to Britain and encourage terrorist attacks on our people, claim benefits and next to fuck all is done, THEY can march around London celebrating the attacks on September 11th, next to fuck all done. Yet a white wing group of 200 thugs are prevented from protesting at the attacks on the British people and against the views of a significant minority of muslim people, yet they are jailed???!?!?! Both are wrong but it's an example of why and how we have lost our own country to THESE people probably forever. I mean fucking hell walking round East London around Brick Lane, and all the fucking signs are in Punjabi, Churchill were turn in his grave, so would Enoch Powell (if he's deed). There's fuck all else I want to say.

 

You are a complete joke. When did the bit in bold occur? If you have no common sense or national awareness, I suggest you just shut the fuck up. As for the signs, none of them are in Punjabi, they are in sylheti (Bangladeshi). When you talk shiet about football, you can get away with it. But here, please just keep quiet.

Bangladeshi, Punjabi who gives a fuck, no wonder there's so many racist cunts in London. Muslim fuckin street signs fuck off. As for football you support a team from a city, you've never stepped foot in, in a sport that people from your culture despite having a population have NEVER produced ONE decent footballer, so I suggest you pipe down about that. Baitung Bhutia of Bury, the highest profile player in the history of a country with 1,000,000,000 people. You fucking wet behind the ears twat.

 

As for the bit I've put in bold you little non-entity cunt...

 

Farrukh Dhondy

London Muslims “Celebrate” 9/11

Jihadist mullahs urge 1,000 followers to learn the murderous lessons of the WTC attack.

11 September 2002

 

An obscene spectacle took place in North London earlier today. A thousand Muslims gathered at the Finsbury Park mosque to “celebrate” the bombing of the World Trade Center. The Metropolitan Police deployed a force 500 strong to protect the meeting, called “A Towering Day in History,” from disruption.

 

A dozen or so menacing-looking men with kaffiyehs over their faces stood on the mosque’s steps to prevent unfriendly journalists from entering.

 

The “celebration” began promptly at 1 PM, so that participants could applaud the action of the WTC bombers at exactly 1:46 London time—the exact time, a year earlier, when the first plane hit its target in New York. Chairing the meeting was Abu Hamza, an Egyptian-born engineer turned Muslim mullah, who presides over the notorious Finsbury Park mosque, where several of the detainees in Camp Delta, Guantanamo Bay, captured fighting for the Taliban and al-Qaida, received their theological training. Hamza also reportedly recruited to the jihad Richard Reid, the would-be shoe-bomber who failed to blow up an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami on December 22, 2001. The good Imam is implicated as well in the training and instigation of Zacarias Moussaoui, under arrest on suspicion of conspiring with the 19 murderers of September 11.

 

The FBI has applied for Hamza’s extradition from the U.K for questioning in the U.S. (the mullah has been a British subject since 1985), but he is still at large in London, free not only to address his congregation but to “celebrate” the events of 9/11. He told the press that Saudi Muslims financed the “celebration” in the hope that from it will arise an organization that represents “the real views of Muslims in Britain.”

 

Scotland Yard’s information office refuses to answer questions as to why Abu Hamza isn’t under arrest. Several leaders of the Muslim community in Britain allege that he is working for the British Secret Services—in particular MI5—as an agent provocateur, but the more likely explanation is that he is more useful to the surveillance services as a free agent than he would be in detention. The police outside the “celebration” had a dozen or so photographers videotaping or taking snapshots of everyone coming in or out of the mosque.

 

Hamza and his mosque act as a focus for young men who have taken the first step of embracing jihadi Islam. They have been known to “pass through” the Finsbury Park mosque and then branch out into clandestine training facilities and programs in Britain and abroad. At last count, the British Foreign Office reported that at least 4,000 British Muslims had received training from al-Qaida, the Taliban, or associated terror groups. Many of these came from Hamza’s congregation, which acts as a point of contact with networks abroad.

 

Hamza is in every way a sinister character. He is blind in one eye, and his left hand has been blown off and replaced by a metal claw. He claims in interviews that he lost his hand and eye when fighting the Russians in Afghanistan, and he uses these injuries as his warrior credentials. The claim is a lie. A British documentary producer, Alu Jamal, interviewed him on camera in Pakistan for a BBC film a year after the Russians left Afghanistan. The footage shows Hamza with his eye and hand intact. His injuries probably result from mishandling explosives.

 

Hamza is also wanted on criminal charges in Yemen in connection with an incident in 1998, when six young British Muslims, all of whom had at some point been under his tutelage, were arrested in that country on suspicion of terrorism. They were caught with weapons, explosives, plans, and maps—all of which they intended to use to attack British diplomats, their families, homes, offices, and church. When the men were captured and tried, they and their families in Britain instantly applied to these same diplomats whose families they had come to murder to represent them—as they were British citizens—and to secure their release from Yemeni justice. One of the young men ultimately convicted was Abu Hamza’s adopted son.

 

The trail of the terrorists led back to Hamza. Far from denying—as their families insisted on doing, despite the evidence—that these men were on a terrorist mission, Hamza said he was in favor of armed struggle against all agencies of the British state that supported corrupt regimes, and if these men, including his son, were found guilty and executed, they would be martyrs to the cause of Islam.

 

If this isn’t sedition, what is?

 

It was pure chaos outside the mosque. A handful of neo-fascists from the British National Party demonstrated under the banner “Keep Britain Out of Foreign Wars, Keep Foreign Wars Out of Britain.” Joining them on the street were a few hundred stalwarts of the Anti-Nazi League—there to protest not the evil “celebration” going on in the mosque but the presence of the British National Party!

 

The assembly adjourned twice for prayers, and the crowds flowed out into the courtyard, led by the muezzin. The star of the meeting was Omar Bakri, a cleric of Syrian origin who heads the sinister cult Al Mahajiroun, which draws its recruits mainly from the colleges and universities of Britain. Al Mahajiroun seeks to make Britain an Islamic state. Bakri told his rapt audience that they must learn the “lessons” of September 11—the murderous lessons, presumably.

 

SCUM

 

If we could turn back time....

 

There is much anger in him.

No anger at all. Just disappointment at how much England has changed. I think you're a magician, you make 3000 posts full of words and manage to say nothing.

 

I could say I have found your posts full of nothing but bile and ignorance. Is that better?

I could say I have found your posts full of nothing but tediousness and arrogance. Is that better?

 

Yes thats much better thanks.

[Park Life 71]

They should change their name to The British Nimby Party.

[Guest alex]

Waits for the racist tosh....

You love doing that though, don't you? I.e. going as close to the wire as you can (you're not daft to be fair), hoping to be called racist so you can play the "Who? Me? Racist?" victim card. Much like the modern BNP.

I'm no where near the wire. If the wire was like the mortar and wire on the Berlin wall, I'd be somewhere in Hamburg that's how close I am to the wire. So now I'm the same as a typical BNP member? OK.

Not quite what I was saying. You're doing the "Who? Me? Racist?" thing there though. You are quite provocative at times though. Can't believe that isn't deliberate. Even saying stuff like 'Fergals' is pretty close to the wire really.

[Renton 22007]

I was responding to your OP in this nest of quotes, the bit where you said 'fuck all is done'. You've been proved wrong on that score, admit it.

 

Call me pathetic if you like, but I'm not the wanting coming out with a load of racist tosh and at the same time screaming I'm not a racist, I'm not the one who voted BNP as a 'protest', I'm not the one who is obviously full of hatred and vitriol (and shit for that matter), and I'm not the one who evidently doesn't like this country any more, because of the imaginary PC brigade and a few muslim nutters. That would be you.

 

you like this phrase don't you.

 

Is it the substitute for your old comment of "thick bastard" to anyone who disagrees with you ?

 

I'd love to know what qualifies you as being so superior and more intelligent than others you think are mere mortals.....but on the other hand, don't change, your immaturity gives me a laugh from time to time.

 

Well it's hard to see how Stevie's (or your) posts aren't filled with hatred and vitriol. Btw, your hypocrisy really knows no bounds, does it? You criticise me for slagging people off on the basis of their intelligence (I disagree, it's more about ignorance as it happens), yet in your previous post (424) you called someone a 'thick cunt', something you always accuse me of and yet to my knowledge I've never said. Unbelievable really. And it's not isolated either, in this post you call an entire messageboard who happens to disagree with you 'fuckwits' http://www.toontastic.net.

 

As for Stevie not being racist, I guess it depends on your definition of being a racist. If we take the first online definition I googled, it's this:

Based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"

A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

Discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

 

I'd say he hits all those criteria in almost every post he makes, and I'm not just talking about in this thread. Btw Stevie if you get this, out of interest, do you own a gold-coloured Stone Island jacket/anorak?

[LeazesMag 0]

I was responding to your OP in this nest of quotes, the bit where you said 'fuck all is done'. You've been proved wrong on that score, admit it.

 

Call me pathetic if you like, but I'm not the wanting coming out with a load of racist tosh and at the same time screaming I'm not a racist, I'm not the one who voted BNP as a 'protest', I'm not the one who is obviously full of hatred and vitriol (and shit for that matter), and I'm not the one who evidently doesn't like this country any more, because of the imaginary PC brigade and a few muslim nutters. That would be you.

 

you like this phrase don't you.

 

Is it the substitute for your old comment of "thick bastard" to anyone who disagrees with you ?

 

I'd love to know what qualifies you as being so superior and more intelligent than others you think are mere mortals.....but on the other hand, don't change, your immaturity gives me a laugh from time to time.

 

Well it's hard to see how Stevie's (or your) posts aren't filled with hatred and vitriol. Btw, your hypocrisy really knows no bounds, does it? You criticise me for slagging people off on the basis of their intelligence (I disagree, it's more about ignorance as it happens), yet in your previous post (424) you called someone a 'thick cunt', something you always accuse me of and yet to my knowledge I've never said. Unbelievable really. And it's not isolated either, in this post you call an entire messageboard who happens to disagree with you 'fuckwits' http://www.toontastic.net.

 

As for Stevie not being racist, I guess it depends on your definition of being a racist. If we take the first online definition I googled, it's this:

Based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"

A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

Discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

 

I'd say he hits all those criteria in almost every post he makes, and I'm not just talking about in this thread. Btw Stevie if you get this, out of interest, do you own a gold-coloured Stone Island jacket/anorak?

 

not the whole messageboard. Just a smalll number, unfortunately others back them up, just because I correctly called Ashley [and the fact that the Halls and Shepherd were harder to replace than many thought], and they don't like that. Whatever, thats another board and this is also in the football section, not general chat. There are some very good posters on NO, just like any other board.

 

As you said the other day, maybe its best we avoid responding to each other but this sort of thread always brings certain things out.

 

What really makes me smile, is the racist accusations that follow the deserved condemnation of what they do sometimes, and what they are allowed to do. See that photo I posted. Maybe you have commented on this, similarly to what is said about the BNP [and I'm not defending either] but if you have, I've missed it.

Edited November 21, 2008 by LeazesMag

[Guest Stevie]

I was responding to your OP in this nest of quotes, the bit where you said 'fuck all is done'. You've been proved wrong on that score, admit it.

 

Call me pathetic if you like, but I'm not the wanting coming out with a load of racist tosh and at the same time screaming I'm not a racist, I'm not the one who voted BNP as a 'protest', I'm not the one who is obviously full of hatred and vitriol (and shit for that matter), and I'm not the one who evidently doesn't like this country any more, because of the imaginary PC brigade and a few muslim nutters. That would be you.

 

you like this phrase don't you.

 

Is it the substitute for your old comment of "thick bastard" to anyone who disagrees with you ?

 

I'd love to know what qualifies you as being so superior and more intelligent than others you think are mere mortals.....but on the other hand, don't change, your immaturity gives me a laugh from time to time.

 

Well it's hard to see how Stevie's (or your) posts aren't filled with hatred and vitriol. Btw, your hypocrisy really knows no bounds, does it? You criticise me for slagging people off on the basis of their intelligence (I disagree, it's more about ignorance as it happens), yet in your previous post (424) you called someone a 'thick cunt', something you always accuse me of and yet to my knowledge I've never said. Unbelievable really. And it's not isolated either, in this post you call an entire messageboard who happens to disagree with you 'fuckwits' http://www.toontastic.net.

 

As for Stevie not being racist, I guess it depends on your definition of being a racist. If we take the first online definition I googled, it's this:

Based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"

A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

Discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

 

I'd say he hits all those criteria in almost every post he makes, and I'm not just talking about in this thread. Btw Stevie if you get this, out of interest, do you own a gold-coloured Stone Island jacket/anorak?

Yet again, dull, ambiguous, poorly thought through, with more side stepping than a Cristiano Ronaldo second half display. The Stone Island thing, seriously difficult to put in to words how utterly feeble and pathetic that is. It's like an admittance that you've run out of things to say. I wasn't aware SI did gold garments, I wouldn't wear SI clothing because I don't like it, and people wear the clothing generally to make a statement crying I'm trying to be something I'm not. I won't sink to your maturity levels by asking if you own a pair of jeans with turn-ups and black national health glasses.

Edited November 21, 2008 by Stevie

[Renton 22007]

I was responding to your OP in this nest of quotes, the bit where you said 'fuck all is done'. You've been proved wrong on that score, admit it.

 

Call me pathetic if you like, but I'm not the wanting coming out with a load of racist tosh and at the same time screaming I'm not a racist, I'm not the one who voted BNP as a 'protest', I'm not the one who is obviously full of hatred and vitriol (and shit for that matter), and I'm not the one who evidently doesn't like this country any more, because of the imaginary PC brigade and a few muslim nutters. That would be you.

 

you like this phrase don't you.

 

Is it the substitute for your old comment of "thick bastard" to anyone who disagrees with you ?

 

I'd love to know what qualifies you as being so superior and more intelligent than others you think are mere mortals.....but on the other hand, don't change, your immaturity gives me a laugh from time to time.

 

Well it's hard to see how Stevie's (or your) posts aren't filled with hatred and vitriol. Btw, your hypocrisy really knows no bounds, does it? You criticise me for slagging people off on the basis of their intelligence (I disagree, it's more about ignorance as it happens), yet in your previous post (424) you called someone a 'thick cunt', something you always accuse me of and yet to my knowledge I've never said. Unbelievable really. And it's not isolated either, in this post you call an entire messageboard who happens to disagree with you 'fuckwits' http://www.toontastic.net.

 

As for Stevie not being racist, I guess it depends on your definition of being a racist. If we take the first online definition I googled, it's this:

Based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"

A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

Discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

 

I'd say he hits all those criteria in almost every post he makes, and I'm not just talking about in this thread. Btw Stevie if you get this, out of interest, do you own a gold-coloured Stone Island jacket/anorak?

 

not the whole messageboard. Just a smalll number, unfortunately others back them up, just because I correctly called Ashley [and the fact that the Halls and Shepherd were harder to replace than many thought], and they don't like that. Whatever, thats another board and this is also in the football section, not general chat. There are some very good posters on NO, just like any other board.

 

As you said the other day, maybe its best we avoid responding to each other but this sort of thread always brings certain things out.

 

What really makes me smile, is the racist accusations that follow the deserved condemnation of what they do sometimes, and what they are allowed to do. See that photo I posted. Maybe you have commented on this, similarly to what is said about the BNP [and I'm not defending either] but if you have, I've missed it.

 

You still called someone a thick cunt in your preceding post, you still call anyone who disagrees with you a fuckwit, and you're still a hypocrite in my book.

 

Yes, I have commented on this, as has Alex, and I even posted virtually the same photo you did, before you did (edit: the ones in your link I mean). Serious question Leazes, why bother posting when you don't actually bother reading what other people have said? You might think you're saving time but in actual fact it just means the same points are repeated ad nauseum.

Edited November 21, 2008 by Renton

[Renton 22007]

I was responding to your OP in this nest of quotes, the bit where you said 'fuck all is done'. You've been proved wrong on that score, admit it.

 

Call me pathetic if you like, but I'm not the wanting coming out with a load of racist tosh and at the same time screaming I'm not a racist, I'm not the one who voted BNP as a 'protest', I'm not the one who is obviously full of hatred and vitriol (and shit for that matter), and I'm not the one who evidently doesn't like this country any more, because of the imaginary PC brigade and a few muslim nutters. That would be you.

 

you like this phrase don't you.

 

Is it the substitute for your old comment of "thick bastard" to anyone who disagrees with you ?

 

I'd love to know what qualifies you as being so superior and more intelligent than others you think are mere mortals.....but on the other hand, don't change, your immaturity gives me a laugh from time to time.

 

Well it's hard to see how Stevie's (or your) posts aren't filled with hatred and vitriol. Btw, your hypocrisy really knows no bounds, does it? You criticise me for slagging people off on the basis of their intelligence (I disagree, it's more about ignorance as it happens), yet in your previous post (424) you called someone a 'thick cunt', something you always accuse me of and yet to my knowledge I've never said. Unbelievable really. And it's not isolated either, in this post you call an entire messageboard who happens to disagree with you 'fuckwits' http://www.toontastic.net.

 

As for Stevie not being racist, I guess it depends on your definition of being a racist. If we take the first online definition I googled, it's this:

Based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"

A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

Discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

 

I'd say he hits all those criteria in almost every post he makes, and I'm not just talking about in this thread. Btw Stevie if you get this, out of interest, do you own a gold-coloured Stone Island jacket/anorak?

Yet again, dull, ambiguous, poorly thought through, with more side stepping than a Cristiano Ronaldo second half display. The Stone Island thing, seriously difficult to put in to words how utterly feeble and pathetic that is. It's like an admittance that you've run out of things to say. I wasn't aware SI did gold garments, I wouldn't wear SI clothing because I don't like it, and people wear the clothing generally to make a statement crying I'm trying to be something I'm not. I won't sink to your maturity levels by asking if you own a pair of jeans with turn-ups and black national health glasses.

 

I only asked because I saw someone at the ManU away match in January I thought might be you, having seen your mugshot once before. I'm glad it wasn't you like, that lad really was a dickhead. What have I side stepped?

[Guest Stevie]

I was responding to your OP in this nest of quotes, the bit where you said 'fuck all is done'. You've been proved wrong on that score, admit it.

 

Call me pathetic if you like, but I'm not the wanting coming out with a load of racist tosh and at the same time screaming I'm not a racist, I'm not the one who voted BNP as a 'protest', I'm not the one who is obviously full of hatred and vitriol (and shit for that matter), and I'm not the one who evidently doesn't like this country any more, because of the imaginary PC brigade and a few muslim nutters. That would be you.

 

you like this phrase don't you.

 

Is it the substitute for your old comment of "thick bastard" to anyone who disagrees with you ?

 

I'd love to know what qualifies you as being so superior and more intelligent than others you think are mere mortals.....but on the other hand, don't change, your immaturity gives me a laugh from time to time.

 

Well it's hard to see how Stevie's (or your) posts aren't filled with hatred and vitriol. Btw, your hypocrisy really knows no bounds, does it? You criticise me for slagging people off on the basis of their intelligence (I disagree, it's more about ignorance as it happens), yet in your previous post (424) you called someone a 'thick cunt', something you always accuse me of and yet to my knowledge I've never said. Unbelievable really. And it's not isolated either, in this post you call an entire messageboard who happens to disagree with you 'fuckwits' http://www.toontastic.net.

 

As for Stevie not being racist, I guess it depends on your definition of being a racist. If we take the first online definition I googled, it's this:

Based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"

A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

Discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

 

I'd say he hits all those criteria in almost every post he makes, and I'm not just talking about in this thread. Btw Stevie if you get this, out of interest, do you own a gold-coloured Stone Island jacket/anorak?

Yet again, dull, ambiguous, poorly thought through, with more side stepping than a Cristiano Ronaldo second half display. The Stone Island thing, seriously difficult to put in to words how utterly feeble and pathetic that is. It's like an admittance that you've run out of things to say. I wasn't aware SI did gold garments, I wouldn't wear SI clothing because I don't like it, and people wear the clothing generally to make a statement crying I'm trying to be something I'm not. I won't sink to your maturity levels by asking if you own a pair of jeans with turn-ups and black national health glasses.

 

I only asked because I saw someone at the ManU away match in January I thought might be you, having seen your mugshot once before. I'm glad it wasn't you like, that lad really was a dickhead. What have I side stepped?

I haven't been to Old Trafford since we did Spurs in 1999. Why are you glad it wasn't me? Whether you think I am or will be a dickhead is of no consequence to me. You haven't given any examples of me being racist.

[Renton 22007]

I was responding to your OP in this nest of quotes, the bit where you said 'fuck all is done'. You've been proved wrong on that score, admit it.

 

Call me pathetic if you like, but I'm not the wanting coming out with a load of racist tosh and at the same time screaming I'm not a racist, I'm not the one who voted BNP as a 'protest', I'm not the one who is obviously full of hatred and vitriol (and shit for that matter), and I'm not the one who evidently doesn't like this country any more, because of the imaginary PC brigade and a few muslim nutters. That would be you.

 

you like this phrase don't you.

 

Is it the substitute for your old comment of "thick bastard" to anyone who disagrees with you ?

 

I'd love to know what qualifies you as being so superior and more intelligent than others you think are mere mortals.....but on the other hand, don't change, your immaturity gives me a laugh from time to time.

 

Well it's hard to see how Stevie's (or your) posts aren't filled with hatred and vitriol. Btw, your hypocrisy really knows no bounds, does it? You criticise me for slagging people off on the basis of their intelligence (I disagree, it's more about ignorance as it happens), yet in your previous post (424) you called someone a 'thick cunt', something you always accuse me of and yet to my knowledge I've never said. Unbelievable really. And it's not isolated either, in this post you call an entire messageboard who happens to disagree with you 'fuckwits' http://www.toontastic.net.

 

As for Stevie not being racist, I guess it depends on your definition of being a racist. If we take the first online definition I googled, it's this:

Based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"

A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

Discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

 

I'd say he hits all those criteria in almost every post he makes, and I'm not just talking about in this thread. Btw Stevie if you get this, out of interest, do you own a gold-coloured Stone Island jacket/anorak?

Yet again, dull, ambiguous, poorly thought through, with more side stepping than a Cristiano Ronaldo second half display. The Stone Island thing, seriously difficult to put in to words how utterly feeble and pathetic that is. It's like an admittance that you've run out of things to say. I wasn't aware SI did gold garments, I wouldn't wear SI clothing because I don't like it, and people wear the clothing generally to make a statement crying I'm trying to be something I'm not. I won't sink to your maturity levels by asking if you own a pair of jeans with turn-ups and black national health glasses.

 

I only asked because I saw someone at the ManU away match in January I thought might be you, having seen your mugshot once before. I'm glad it wasn't you like, that lad really was a dickhead. What have I side stepped?

I haven't been to Old Trafford since we did Spurs in 1999. Why are you glad it wasn't me? Whether you think I am or will be a dickhead is of no consequence to me. You haven't given any examples of me being racist.

 

If you're taken on face value, nearly everything you post is racist or borderline racist, Alex already has you sussed with respect to this. Just because you think you're not racist doesn't mean you're not either, going by those criteria I listed. For instance, you clearly don't think calling someone a paki or chinky is racist, when it is. Would you say this to their faces, I doubt it like, that's the acid test.

[Ken 119]

Stevie, maybe you could give us your own definition of the word racism. Don't look it up, give your opinion on the word. I've followed this thread from the start and followed all points of view closely. You, imo, clearly show signs of being racist. Not only this thread which must be heaven to you, but others at different times as well. Disprove me if you can.

[Guest alex]

Getting back to the point, a little bit, take one look at the leader of the BNP and his background and some of the views he's held, and then try and tell me it isn't a racist party.

[Guest Stevie]

I was responding to your OP in this nest of quotes, the bit where you said 'fuck all is done'. You've been proved wrong on that score, admit it.

 

Call me pathetic if you like, but I'm not the wanting coming out with a load of racist tosh and at the same time screaming I'm not a racist, I'm not the one who voted BNP as a 'protest', I'm not the one who is obviously full of hatred and vitriol (and shit for that matter), and I'm not the one who evidently doesn't like this country any more, because of the imaginary PC brigade and a few muslim nutters. That would be you.

 

you like this phrase don't you.

 

Is it the substitute for your old comment of "thick bastard" to anyone who disagrees with you ?

 

I'd love to know what qualifies you as being so superior and more intelligent than others you think are mere mortals.....but on the other hand, don't change, your immaturity gives me a laugh from time to time.

 

Well it's hard to see how Stevie's (or your) posts aren't filled with hatred and vitriol. Btw, your hypocrisy really knows no bounds, does it? You criticise me for slagging people off on the basis of their intelligence (I disagree, it's more about ignorance as it happens), yet in your previous post (424) you called someone a 'thick cunt', something you always accuse me of and yet to my knowledge I've never said. Unbelievable really. And it's not isolated either, in this post you call an entire messageboard who happens to disagree with you 'fuckwits' http://www.toontastic.net.

 

As for Stevie not being racist, I guess it depends on your definition of being a racist. If we take the first online definition I googled, it's this:

Based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"

A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

Discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

 

I'd say he hits all those criteria in almost every post he makes, and I'm not just talking about in this thread. Btw Stevie if you get this, out of interest, do you own a gold-coloured Stone Island jacket/anorak?

Yet again, dull, ambiguous, poorly thought through, with more side stepping than a Cristiano Ronaldo second half display. The Stone Island thing, seriously difficult to put in to words how utterly feeble and pathetic that is. It's like an admittance that you've run out of things to say. I wasn't aware SI did gold garments, I wouldn't wear SI clothing because I don't like it, and people wear the clothing generally to make a statement crying I'm trying to be something I'm not. I won't sink to your maturity levels by asking if you own a pair of jeans with turn-ups and black national health glasses.

 

I only asked because I saw someone at the ManU away match in January I thought might be you, having seen your mugshot once before. I'm glad it wasn't you like, that lad really was a dickhead. What have I side stepped?

I haven't been to Old Trafford since we did Spurs in 1999. Why are you glad it wasn't me? Whether you think I am or will be a dickhead is of no consequence to me. You haven't given any examples of me being racist.

 

If you're taken on face value, nearly everything you post is racist or borderline racist, Alex already has you sussed with respect to this. Just because you think you're not racist doesn't mean you're not either, going by those criteria I listed. For instance, you clearly don't think calling someone a paki or chinky is racist, when it is. Would you say this to their faces, I doubt it like, that's the acid test.

If you're going to say nearly everything I post is racist give examples instead of side stepping it, I've asked you four times now. Where have I called someone a paki and why are you glad it wasn't me at Old Trafford.

[Guest Stevie]

Stevie, maybe you could give us your own definition of the word racism. Don't look it up, give your opinion on the word. I've followed this thread from the start and followed all points of view closely. You, imo, clearly show signs of being racist. Not only this thread which must be heaven to you, but others at different times as well. Disprove me if you can.

Show me those signs mate.

[Guest alex]

Would you care to elaborate on what you meant by "Feargals" then Stevie?

[Guest Stevie]

Would you care to elaborate on what you meant by "Feargals" then Stevie?

People of ethnic minority groups.

[Ken 119]

Stevie, maybe you could give us your own definition of the word racism. Don't look it up, give your opinion on the word. I've followed this thread from the start and followed all points of view closely. You, imo, clearly show signs of being racist. Not only this thread which must be heaven to you, but others at different times as well. Disprove me if you can.

Show me those signs mate.

You make an effort to tell me how you define being a racist, and I'll reciprocate by looking through what you posted to prove you are, which won't be hard btw.

[Guest Stevie]

Stevie, maybe you could give us your own definition of the word racism. Don't look it up, give your opinion on the word. I've followed this thread from the start and followed all points of view closely. You, imo, clearly show signs of being racist. Not only this thread which must be heaven to you, but others at different times as well. Disprove me if you can.

Show me those signs mate.

You make an effort to tell me how you define being a racist, and I'll reciprocate by looking through what you posted to prove you are, which won't be hard btw.

You're the one accusing me of being racist, I don't have to make an effort to do anything. Back up your accusations or pipe down a bit?

[2bias 3]

ahh the blog is gone

[Guest alex]

Would you care to elaborate on what you meant by "Feargals" then Stevie?

People of ethnic minority groups.

It's rhyming slang, aye?

Rhetorical question btw. I'm not saying that makes you a racist per se but it does show what I meant about being provocative in your use of language.

[ewerk 31221]

Is Stevie a racist? I'd guess no.

 

Is Stevie a bigot? Certainly.

Edited November 21, 2008 by ewerk