Fop 1 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 MS offers peek through Windows 7 Windows 7 will make it easier to view photos Microsoft has unveiled the latest version of its Windows operating system. It promised that it will deliver a better experience for users when it arrives sometime late next year. Windows 7 follows Vista, which Microsoft claims has been a success, but which has been subject to fierce criticism from a number of users. The system was demonstrated at the company's Professional Developers Conference in Los Angeles. Senior vice-president Steven Sinofsky described it as an "exciting new version of Windows" and claimed it would deliver a more personalised experience. Feedback When Vista launched in January 2007, many users complained that it ran slowly and failed to work at all with some programs and devices. Corporate customers have been slow to switch from Windows XP to Vista, although Microsoft said that the operating system had an unfair press, and has enjoyed record sales. "We got a lot of feedback about Vista," admitted Mr Sinofsky, who runs the Windows business. He said his team had responded with improvements and had learned some lessons in developing Windows 7. Data sharing Among the new features promised in the latest operating system are Windows Touch, which introduces support for multi-touch technology. This will enable users to zoom in on an image by moving two fingers closer together - a technology first introduced to millions of users by Apple's iPhone. A new taskbar aims to give more rapid access to files and programs, with each open window appearing as a graphic thumbnail. There is also a feature called HomeGroup, allowing users easy sharing of data across PCs and other devices in the home. And there is more support for devices such as cameras, printers, and mobile phones with a product called Device Stage offering a single window to manage tasks for each device. Microsoft's chief software architect Ray Ozzie defended Vista and indicated that Windows 7 would be evolutionary rather than revolutionary. "Vista is a great operating system, it's tremendously functional," he told the BBC. "Windows 7 brings it up a level by enabling it to take advantage of certain hardware innovations. PCs have evolved since Vista was launched," he said. Microsoft also announced that its Office software will now be available as a web application, so that users can create and share documents across multiple devices. Google already offers users online applications allowing them to create documents, spreadsheets, and presentations online for free. Microsoft's Office Web will be supplied to customers who purchase the next edition of Office, but Microsoft stressed that it will provide all the same functions online as are available offline. $$$ $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 If their track record is anything to go by it will be delayed enough for me to have got at least 5 years out of my copy of Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 $$$ $$$ Business in trying to make money shock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Im using the 64bit version of vista ultimate at the mo - and its pretty good. ive had the tweak the hell out of it to get it 'just so' and upgraded to 8gig of ram like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 If their track record is anything to go by it will be delayed enough for me to have got at least 5 years out of my copy of Vista. Maybe, but Win7 isn't such a leap (not that Vista was, but it was enough to delay it). I think they'll have it out reasonably on time. Vista I think will be the new WinME, expensive, buggy, meh and superseded very quickly. $$$ $$$ Business in trying to make money shock! Really successful business is making lots of money selling people things they don't need. If you're really good you can sell them the same thing twice. Im using the 64bit version of vista ultimate at the mo - and its pretty good. ive had the tweak the hell out of it to get it 'just so' and upgraded to 8gig of ram like. That's the thing with Vista, you've got to wrestle with it no end just to get it functioning reasonable like it should (they way it installs is shocking and the built in defragmentor is just not fit for purpose). Win7 will probably be quite a lot better in fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 $$$ $$$ Business in trying to make money shock! Really successful business is making lots of money selling people things they don't need. If you're really good you can sell them the same thing twice. You don't want it then don't buy it. As you well know there are alternatives available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15863 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Oh noes! They will make my operating system obsolete! ....ah, wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21484 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 $$$ $$$ Business in trying to make money shock! Really successful business is making lots of money selling people things they don't need. If you're really good you can sell them the same thing twice. You don't want it then don't buy it. As you well know there are alternatives available. Aye, if you dont need it yet youre dim enough to buy it then youre the ones lining Gates and Co's pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 You don't want it then don't buy it. As you well know there are alternatives available. I don't have a personal copy of Vista, there's no need, at present. However eventually for gaming I'll have to, or rather more likely Win7. But that's not really the point, the point is all those people that have shelled out for Vista which will soon at best be a back burner security update OS, and it isn't a very good OS anyway. Oh noes! They will make my operating system obsolete! ....ah, wait. They might , the only reason XP got a semi-reprieve is because of the ridiculous popularity of Linux mini-laptops and that Vista is far, far too bloaty to run on them well (or at all in some cases). Aye, if you dont need it yet youre dim enough to buy it then youre the ones lining Gates and Co's pockets. True, but it's likely to be a WinME/Win2000/WinXP situation again. Plus for some aspects you have little choice due to the absolute monopoly (admittedly for many PC tasks you have a wide choice of different and frankly superior software), and it's quite possible they'll do an XP/Vista thing with Direct X again, thereby effectively forcing an "upgrade" to Win7 in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I prefer XP to Vista as it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 This is up there with the Brand / Ross scandal for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I've never had so many temporary lock ups and crashes as I've had with Vista. Worst ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I've had very few problems with it tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 This is up there with the Brand / Ross scandal for me. Can you believe Brown made a statement about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 This is up there with the Brand / Ross scandal for me. Can you believe Brown made a statement about it? Actually I can. But ffs, we're heading into a recession and he's commenting on this Cameron stuck his oar in as well. Honestly man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 I prefer XP to Vista as it is... I think Win7 probably will be a worthwhile update (and by then they probably will have utterly abandoned XP), but Vista is looking like a White Elephant. I've never had so many temporary lock ups and crashes as I've had with Vista. Worst ever? Well since WinME was patched up anyway. I've had very few problems with it tbf. I guess it depends what you're doing with it and what you are running it on. It's not good though, it needs a lot of "help" to get it doing things it should be doing out of the box. buy windows?who does that and yes vista is awful, dual booted it to see what it was like and couldnt stick it Are you a PC? [/MSspinmachine] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 This is up there with the Brand / Ross scandal for me. Can you believe Brown made a statement about it? Actually I can. But ffs, we're heading into a recession and he's commenting on this Cameron stuck his oar in as well. Honestly man Yeah I saw that too, I thought it was going to be a joke, then I realised it was serious. I think they've all just found something that they can safely lay into to try and take other media pressure off them, so they are going at it like the Blair's in the Vatican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Why would you need 'a peek' at the new windows? Just boot up a mac and see it 18 months beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Why is it that Mac users are always smug about the fact that they are Mac users? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15863 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 This is up there with the Brand / Ross scandal for me. Can you believe Brown made a statement about it? Actually I can. But ffs, we're heading into a recession and he's commenting on this Cameron stuck his oar in as well. Honestly man Yeah I saw that too, I thought it was going to be a joke, then I realised it was serious. I think they've all just found something that they can safely lay into to try and take other media pressure off them, so they are going at it like the Blair's in the Vatican. The Pope's probably Catholic too. Anyway, there's never a bad time to post this: http://www.holymoly.com/page/NewsDetail/0,...1434846,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Why is it that Mac users are always smug about the fact that they are Mac users? Bit like Man U fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) I just assumed Chez was smug because he was rich, clever and good-looking. Edited October 29, 2008 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 if windows 7 is any good compared to vista, then i'd be intrigued. But then thats like saying ebola is better than aids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Why would you need 'a peek' at the new windows? Just boot up a mac and see it 18 months beforehand. How long have we been saying this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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