Park Life 71 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 The Ufo community are aware that the Usaf etc like the idea of using Ufo type incidents as cover for when they fuck up or their things malfunction. What fascinates me is that the things we are aware of and seem to be flying around in broad daylight are project that were started in the late 70's....One can only imagine what they are working on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21392 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 You can't compare stealth technology with anti-gravity though. In case it slipped your attention we can't even adequately explain gravity at the moment, which is why we have invested billions in CERN. I doubt you'd find one physicist that would take your claims seriously. I don't even think he takes them seriously  I can never tell with Parky. He reminds me of that quote 'It's good to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out'.  My position on the existence of intelligent alien life existing full stop is that at present we simply don't know, there are too many variables to consider to even make an intelligent guess. However, the continued failure of SETI do detect artificial radio sources outside of the Earth indicates that intelligent life probably isn't very common. And if they were so technologically advanced as to be capable of travelling light years, we'd either know of them because they wanted us to, or we wouldn't because they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 This is the site I'm on about: http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham.htmSeems to know his shit. Â Imo that was a proper Ufo event, whether extraterrestrial however I don't think we can ever know. But exotic craft yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 You should just ask Fop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) You can't compare stealth technology with anti-gravity though. In case it slipped your attention we can't even adequately explain gravity at the moment, which is why we have invested billions in CERN. I doubt you'd find one physicist that would take your claims seriously. I don't even think he takes them seriously  I can never tell with Parky. He reminds me of that quote 'It's good to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out'.  My position on the existence of intelligent alien life existing full stop is that at present we simply don't know, there are too many variables to consider to even make an intelligent guess. However, the continued failure of SETI do detect artificial radio sources outside of the Earth indicates that intelligent life probably isn't very common. And if they were so technologically advanced as to be capable of travelling light years, we'd either know of them because they wanted us to, or we wouldn't because they don't.  Seti is only looking at a tiny tiny fraction of the radio event signal.  It is like if we were an ant colony next to a five lane motorway would we understand anything about the motorway? Edited November 18, 2008 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 This is the site I'm on about: http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham.htmSeems to know his shit. Â Imo that was a proper Ufo event, whether extraterrestrial however I don't think we can ever know. But exotic craft yes. I'd say the body of 'proper' evidence suggests otherwise. However, I think it's entirely possible there was a cover up. Check the site out anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21392 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 You can't compare stealth technology with anti-gravity though. In case it slipped your attention we can't even adequately explain gravity at the moment, which is why we have invested billions in CERN. I doubt you'd find one physicist that would take your claims seriously. I don't even think he takes them seriously  I can never tell with Parky. He reminds me of that quote 'It's good to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out'.  My position on the existence of intelligent alien life existing full stop is that at present we simply don't know, there are too many variables to consider to even make an intelligent guess. However, the continued failure of SETI do detect artificial radio sources outside of the Earth indicates that intelligent life probably isn't very common. And if they were so technologically advanced as to be capable of travelling light years, we'd either know of them because they wanted us to, or we wouldn't because they don't.  Seti is only looking at a tiny tiny fraction of the radio event signal.  It is like if we were an ant colony next to a five lane motorway would we understand anything about the motorway?  That analogy might be true, but then again it might not. I'm just basing my opinions on what we factually know, I'm aware of the limitations of SETI but it's the best data we have. Which kind of brings me back to point about the value of speculating about such things, it might be fun for a while but it gets us no closer to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 You can't compare stealth technology with anti-gravity though. In case it slipped your attention we can't even adequately explain gravity at the moment, which is why we have invested billions in CERN. I doubt you'd find one physicist that would take your claims seriously. I don't even think he takes them seriously  I can never tell with Parky. He reminds me of that quote 'It's good to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out'.  My position on the existence of intelligent alien life existing full stop is that at present we simply don't know, there are too many variables to consider to even make an intelligent guess. However, the continued failure of SETI do detect artificial radio sources outside of the Earth indicates that intelligent life probably isn't very common. And if they were so technologically advanced as to be capable of travelling light years, we'd either know of them because they wanted us to, or we wouldn't because they don't.  Seti is only looking at a tiny tiny fraction of the radio event signal.  It is like if we were an ant colony next to a five lane motorway would we understand anything about the motorway?  That analogy might be true, but then again it might not. I'm just basing my opinions on what we factually know, I'm aware of the limitations of SETI but it's the best data we have. Which kind of brings me back to point about the value of speculating about such things, it might be fun for a while but it gets us no closer to the truth.  The truth is dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I see Parky has played his: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I have many cards my dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 You should just ask Fop  I told him all about it next Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 You should just ask Fop  I told him all about it next Tuesday.  Clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 There was a programme on about 5 years ago where a bloke from the base claimed he'd hoaxed the whole thing. I find it hard to believe it was just patrol lights from a police car when evidence suggests otherwise. Patrol lights or light from a lighthouse do not explain the high readings of radiation taken from a geiger counter in the area, the radar readings, the imprints left by the object, and witness accounts from civilians in the surrounding area. Â And of course the testimony from trained and experienced military officers who not only saw lights, but a solid black, glassy triangle object which they were able to see a foot away from them. All but one person's story corroborated with one anothers, and he blamed his ridiculous story on being injected with some chemical by the CIA which fucked up his memory. Always a good excuse when you know you've dug yourself a hole you can't get out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Don't know if its been mentioned in this thread, but can someone explain to me how it is possible for aliens with technology beyond our imagination to travel hundreds of lightyears across the galaxy and then be so clumsy as to crash land in America? And then be incapable of reclaiming their technology from 20th century earthlings? You are assuming that any advanced civilisations, providing they exist of course, are perfect and have traveled from one star system directly to here (Nevada, New Mexico).  It is quite possible the vehicle could have come from a base underground or on the backside of the moon, in the asteroid belt, the rings of Saturn, on Mars or one of many moons around other planets. Could it be that what crashed at Roswell were small Earth excursion modules rather than the interstellar, very large vehicles (space carriers, mother ships etc) which would have brought them to Earth just as our large aircraft carriers carry 80 or so small airplanes whose mode of propulsion is distinctly different from that of the carrier.  Also, for example when we examine major investigations to determine the cause of aircraft crashes, we often find, after much effort, that it was simple unexpected things ranging from loose bolts, to ingested birds, to faulty wiring, to pilot error, to ice in the wrong place. It could have been very high atmospheric electricity levels because of storms or the great dryness of the desert air. Perhaps it was shot down, by accident or on purpose. We know a radar set was on over at White Sands because of an impending rocket launch and the fact that it used vacuum tubes. Perhaps crossing the beam might have led to a small hiccup in the control system which led to a malfunction on the flying disks (there were two that came down in Roswell ) which caused them to collide. Perhaps the high radioactivity around the Trinity site (where the first atomic bomb blast occurred) caused a malfunction. We certainly have no reason to believe that aliens never make mistakes, or never run into the unexpected.  Some day perhaps the government will release the report that was undoubtedly written as to the causes of the crashes. Just because we don’t have that report, it doesn’t mean the event didn’t take place. In fact evidence like two affidavits released after these ex-military people passed away who state that it wasn't just a soviet atomic detecting balloon, but an interplanetary vehicle, and testimony like that from astronaut Dr Edgar Mitchell clearly suggest that there is more to this than just earthly explanations.  You just need an open mind to come up with many plausible reasons for the crashes though. Of course if you don't have one than these ideas would obviously sound absurd.   Does that really strike anyone as plausible? Or is it not more likely Area 51 was a secret facility developing new (earth made) technologies for the US air force (e.g. stealth fighters etc) and people with over active imaginations (lets face it there's enough in that part of the world, as well as on here) have misinterpretted what they've seen? I know what my money would be on. Aye, we know for a fact that such things like Stealth fighters, the U-2, SR 71, and various UAV's etc have been developed there. As Parky says, to put things into perspective the Stealth bomber was developed in the early 80's. Who knows what has been developed there since... the Aurora, scram jet technology, even yes, anti-gravitational vehicles. Witnesses from the area before it was properly closed off from any sort of public view in the mid 90's details accounts of things maneuvering in the sky which go against the current laws of physics.  This doesn't mean that Area 51 was specifically using alien technology, it could all have been the continuation of Van Braun's projects which began after WW2. However I do believe that crashed alien craft had once been taken there and other secret locations and airforce bases in the USA and Australia. They had to go somewhere right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) You can't compare stealth technology with anti-gravity though. In case it slipped your attention we can't even adequately explain gravity at the moment, which is why we have invested billions in CERN. I doubt you'd find one physicist that would take your claims seriously. I don't even think he takes them seriously  I can never tell with Parky. He reminds me of that quote 'It's good to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out'.  My position on the existence of intelligent alien life existing full stop is that at present we simply don't know, there are too many variables to consider to even make an intelligent guess. However, the continued failure of SETI do detect artificial radio sources outside of the Earth indicates that intelligent life probably isn't very common. And if they were so technologically advanced as to be capable of travelling light years, we'd either know of them because they wanted us to, or we wouldn't because they don't.  Seti is only looking at a tiny tiny fraction of the radio event signal.  It is like if we were an ant colony next to a five lane motorway would we understand anything about the motorway? I find that there is very little science behind the SETI effort. It is assumed that there are civilisations using communication technologies similar to ones we have developed to try to attract our attention. It assumes there is no colonisation and no migration and that nobody is coming here. They assume that because it takes less energy to send signals than to travel, that nobody is traveling.  The only good thing about SETI is that it keeps some people in jobs in a never ending quest to find a civilisation who may share the same radio frequencies as us. Edited November 19, 2008 by Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) This is the site I'm on about: http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham.htmSeems to know his shit. I responded to one of your posts, 3 before this one, before I carried on reading the thread and you gave this site. Will have a good look at this site when I get the chance. Edited November 19, 2008 by Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21392 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Don't know if its been mentioned in this thread, but can someone explain to me how it is possible for aliens with technology beyond our imagination to travel hundreds of lightyears across the galaxy and then be so clumsy as to crash land in America? And then be incapable of reclaiming their technology from 20th century earthlings? You are assuming that any advanced civilisations, providing they exist of course, are perfect and have traveled from one star system directly to here (Nevada, New Mexico).  It is quite possible the vehicle could have come from a base underground or on the backside of the moon, in the asteroid belt, the rings of Saturn, on Mars or one of many moons around other planets. Could it be that what crashed at Roswell were small Earth excursion modules rather than the interstellar, very large vehicles (space carriers, mother ships etc) which would have brought them to Earth just as our large aircraft carriers carry 80 or so small airplanes whose mode of propulsion is distinctly different from that of the carrier.  Also, for example when we examine major investigations to determine the cause of aircraft crashes, we often find, after much effort, that it was simple unexpected things ranging from loose bolts, to ingested birds, to faulty wiring, to pilot error, to ice in the wrong place. It could have been very high atmospheric electricity levels because of storms or the great dryness of the desert air. Perhaps it was shot down, by accident or on purpose. We know a radar set was on over at White Sands because of an impending rocket launch and the fact that it used vacuum tubes. Perhaps crossing the beam might have led to a small hiccup in the control system which led to a malfunction on the flying disks (there were two that came down in Roswell ) which caused them to collide. Perhaps the high radioactivity around the Trinity site (where the first atomic bomb blast occurred) caused a malfunction. We certainly have no reason to believe that aliens never make mistakes, or never run into the unexpected.  Some day perhaps the government will release the report that was undoubtedly written as to the causes of the crashes. Just because we don’t have that report, it doesn’t mean the event didn’t take place. In fact evidence like two affidavits released after these ex-military people passed away who state that it wasn't just a soviet atomic detecting balloon, but an interplanetary vehicle, and testimony like that from astronaut Dr Edgar Mitchell clearly suggest that there is more to this than just earthly explanations.  You just need an open mind to come up with many plausible reasons for the crashes though. Of course if you don't have one than these ideas would obviously sound absurd.   Does that really strike anyone as plausible? Or is it not more likely Area 51 was a secret facility developing new (earth made) technologies for the US air force (e.g. stealth fighters etc) and people with over active imaginations (lets face it there's enough in that part of the world, as well as on here) have misinterpretted what they've seen? I know what my money would be on. Aye, we know for a fact that such things like Stealth fighters, the U-2, SR 71, and various UAV's etc have been developed there. As Parky says, to put things into perspective the Stealth bomber was developed in the early 80's. Who knows what has been developed there since... the Aurora, scram jet technology, even yes, anti-gravitational vehicles. Witnesses from the area before it was properly closed off from any sort of public view in the mid 90's details accounts of things maneuvering in the sky which go against the current laws of physics.  This doesn't mean that Area 51 was specifically using alien technology, it could all have been the continuation of Van Braun's projects which began after WW2. However I do believe that crashed alien craft had once been taken there and other secret locations and airforce bases in the USA and Australia. They had to go somewhere right??  Being sceptical makes me open minded, not closed minded. You've given quite a lot of speculation there without presenting a single shred of evidence to back it up. Mother ship or not, the fact remains these aliens would have to possess the technology to allow interstellar travel, yet you are now suggesting they may have crashed because of faulty wiring or a human made SAM? How does this tie in with Parky's ants/motorway analogy or the failings of SETI, does it not seem contradictory?  I think your coming from an assumption that contact has been made, and this has consequently shaped your following thought process. I'd prefer some real evidence first. But, out of interest, how many people do you think might be 'in' on this? Wouldn't it have to be hundreds, even thousands? This is the fundamental reason I think all big conspiracy theories fall down, we like to gossip too much, and with modern technology (mobile phones etc) it would be easy to back the gossip up with some form of evidence. Yet there isn't any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 You can't compare stealth technology with anti-gravity though. In case it slipped your attention we can't even adequately explain gravity at the moment, which is why we have invested billions in CERN. I doubt you'd find one physicist that would take your claims seriously. I don't even think he takes them seriously  I can never tell with Parky. He reminds me of that quote 'It's good to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out'.  My position on the existence of intelligent alien life existing full stop is that at present we simply don't know, there are too many variables to consider to even make an intelligent guess. However, the continued failure of SETI do detect artificial radio sources outside of the Earth indicates that intelligent life probably isn't very common. And if they were so technologically advanced as to be capable of travelling light years, we'd either know of them because they wanted us to, or we wouldn't because they don't.  Seti is only looking at a tiny tiny fraction of the radio event signal.  It is like if we were an ant colony next to a five lane motorway would we understand anything about the motorway? I find that there is very little science behind the SETI effort. It is assumed that there are civilisations using communication technologies similar to ones we have developed to try to attract our attention. It assumes there is no colonisation and no migration and that nobody is coming here. They assume that because it takes less energy to send signals than to travel, that nobody is traveling.  The only good thing about SETI is that it keeps some people in jobs in a never ending quest to find a civilisation who may share the same radio frequencies as us.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 You can't compare stealth technology with anti-gravity though. In case it slipped your attention we can't even adequately explain gravity at the moment, which is why we have invested billions in CERN. I doubt you'd find one physicist that would take your claims seriously. I don't even think he takes them seriously  I can never tell with Parky. He reminds me of that quote 'It's good to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out'.  My position on the existence of intelligent alien life existing full stop is that at present we simply don't know, there are too many variables to consider to even make an intelligent guess. However, the continued failure of SETI do detect artificial radio sources outside of the Earth indicates that intelligent life probably isn't very common. And if they were so technologically advanced as to be capable of travelling light years, we'd either know of them because they wanted us to, or we wouldn't because they don't.  Seti is only looking at a tiny tiny fraction of the radio event signal.  It is like if we were an ant colony next to a five lane motorway would we understand anything about the motorway? I find that there is very little science behind the SETI effort. It is assumed that there are civilisations using communication technologies similar to ones we have developed to try to attract our attention. It assumes there is no colonisation and no migration and that nobody is coming here. They assume that because it takes less energy to send signals than to travel, that nobody is traveling.  The only good thing about SETI is that it keeps some people in jobs in a never ending quest to find a civilisation who may share the same radio frequencies as us.   Well the issue with travelling is simply the stupendously massive distances involved, especially considering we can't even get to the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 This is the site I'm on about: http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham.htmSeems to know his shit. I responded to one of your posts, 3 before this one, before I carried on reading the thread and you gave this site. Will have a good look at this site when I get the chance. It's a good site especially as it cuts through a lot of the crap. The eye witness statements in particular are very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 You can't compare stealth technology with anti-gravity though. In case it slipped your attention we can't even adequately explain gravity at the moment, which is why we have invested billions in CERN. I doubt you'd find one physicist that would take your claims seriously. I don't even think he takes them seriously  I can never tell with Parky. He reminds me of that quote 'It's good to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out'.  My position on the existence of intelligent alien life existing full stop is that at present we simply don't know, there are too many variables to consider to even make an intelligent guess. However, the continued failure of SETI do detect artificial radio sources outside of the Earth indicates that intelligent life probably isn't very common. And if they were so technologically advanced as to be capable of travelling light years, we'd either know of them because they wanted us to, or we wouldn't because they don't.  Seti is only looking at a tiny tiny fraction of the radio event signal.  It is like if we were an ant colony next to a five lane motorway would we understand anything about the motorway? I find that there is very little science behind the SETI effort. It is assumed that there are civilisations using communication technologies similar to ones we have developed to try to attract our attention. It assumes there is no colonisation and no migration and that nobody is coming here. They assume that because it takes less energy to send signals than to travel, that nobody is traveling.  The only good thing about SETI is that it keeps some people in jobs in a never ending quest to find a civilisation who may share the same radio frequencies as us.   Well the issue with travelling is simply the stupendously massive distances involved, especially considering we can't even get to the moon.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 174 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 "What is going on? Something very sinister is going on. Polls reveal that over 90% of the Americans people believe in UFO's and 95% of these people believe the government is keeping this knowledge from the public. But Why? Are they afraid the people will panic if an "Official" announcement were made? Hardly. Such an announcement would create interest and excitement and many questions, particularly by the churches, but do not panic. Why then the continued cover-up? Â There is overwhelming evidence in the past several years from "Whistle Blowers" retired military officers who have finally said, "Enough is enough! It's time the government told the people the truth!" These officers, such as Navy Intelligence officer, William Cooper, Major John Lear (whose father founded the Lear Jet Corp.) and Air Force officer William English, to name but a few, have all discovered the truth, and at the risk of their very lives, are trying to alert YOU to the secrets behind the UFO's and the Alien Presence on this earth. These people worked on the secret projects, had access to 'classified' Top Secret documents , had seen with there own eyes 'captured' aliens, or extraterrestrial entities, UFO's and the incredible technology they brought with them. Â Sightings of UFO's have been reported throughout history, and biblical and historic references to "Flaming Chariots" huge flying 'birds' and odd looking beings predate our history by thousands of years. In the 1940's several alien spacecraft were recovered by the U.S. and other countries, along with a few dead aliens and one live one they named EBE (a name suggested by Dr. Vannever Bush and was short for Extraterrestrial Biological Entity). Â In 1953 astronomers discovered large objects in space which were moving toward earth. At first they believed they were asteroids, but later evidence proved the objects could only be spaceships. Project Sigma and Project Plato intercepted alien radio communication and using the computer binary language, was able to arrange a landing that resulted in face-to-face contact with alien beings from another planet. Meanwhile, a race of human-looking aliens contacted the U.S. Government, warning us that the aliens orbiting the equator were hostile beings from Orion. These human-type aliens demanded we dismantle and destroy our nuclear weapons, that we were on a path of self-destruction and we must stop killing each other, stop polluting the earth, stop raping the earths natural resources and learn to live in harmony with one another. President Eisenhower rejected these demands. Â Later in 1954 the race of aliens, known as Greys, from Zeta Reticuli area in space, who had been orbiting the equator, landed at Holloman Air Force base. they stated their planet was dying and needed quarters on earth to conduct genetic experiments that might allow their race to survive; this in exchange for certain technology. President Eisenhower met with the aliens and a formal treaty was signed. The treaty stated the aliens would not interfere in our affairs and we would not interfere in theirs. We would keep their presence on earth secret; they would furnish us with advanced technology. They could abduct humans on a limited basis for the purpose of medical examination and monitoring, with the stipulation that the humans would not be harmed, would be returned to their point of abduction, that the humans have no memory of the event. It was also agreed the alien bases would be constructed underground, beneath Indian reservations in the 4 corners area of Utah, New Mexico, Arizona and Colorado. Another was to be constructed in Nevada in the area known as S-4, about 7 miles south of area 51, known as 'Dreamland'. A multi-billion dollar secret fund was organized and kept by the Military Office of the White House, supposedly to build secret underground sites for the President and the staff in case of military attacks. Â By secret Executive Memorandum, NSC5410, Eisenhower established a permanent committee known as "Majority Twelve" (MJ12) to oversee and conduct all covert activities with the aliens. This included FBI director J. Edgar Hoover and six leaders of the 'Council on Foreign Relations, known as the 'Wise Men' and later others from the Trilateral Commision. George Bush, Gordon Dean, and Brzezinski were among them. Â A major finding of the commission was the aliens were using humans and animals for a source on glandular secretions, enzymes, hormonal secretions, blood and in horrible genetic experiments. The aliens explained these actions as necessary for their survival, that if their genetic structure were not improved, their race would cease to exist. Â The ruling powers decided that one means of funding the alien project was to corner the illegal drug market. A young ambitious member of the Council on Foreign Relations was approached. His name is George Bush who at the time was president and CEO of Zapata Oil Co. based in Texas. Zapata Oil was experimenting with offshore oil drilling and it was arranged that the drugs could be shipped from South America to the offshore platforms by fishing boats, then transferred to the U.S. shore by normal transportation, thus avoiding search by customs agents. The plan worked better than anyone expected, and today the CIA controls all the world's illegal drug markets. One should remember, it was George Bush who first started selling drugs to our children. The drug money was used to finance the deep underground alien bases. Â Conclusions: the Bilderburgers, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commision are the SECRET GOVERNMENT and rule this nation through MJ-12 and the study group known as the Jason Society. Â Throughout history the aliens have manipulated and/or ruled the human race through various secret societies, religion and the occult. The CFR and the Trilateral Commision are in complete control of the alien technology and the nation's economy. Eisenhower was the last president to know the entire overview of the alien problem. Succeeding presidents were told only what MJ-12 wanted them to know, and it was NOT the truth. MJ-12 presented each new president with a picture of a lost alien culture seeking to renew itself, build a home on this planet and shower us with gifts of technology. Each president has bought the story hook, line, and sinker. Meanwhile, innocent people continue to suffer unspeakable horrors at the hands of alien and human scientists who are engaged in barbarous research that would make the Nazis pale in comparison. As if that is not enough, many people end up as food for the insatiable alien appetite for biological enzymes, hormonal secretions and blood. At least 1 in every 40 Americans have been implanted with alien devices that are used to control them if necessity calls. Â By 1989 over 3 million 'Greys' are occupying these deep multi-level underground complexes. Level 7 at Dulce is called "Nightmare Hall". They have welched on their agreement on abducting humans; today over 25 million citizens have been abducted and implanted, a literal army awaiting orders to march! (Whitley Strieber has written best selling on his personal experience as have many others). For this reason other nations were informed. Within 5 months the communist monolith Russia was dismantled to unite with the U.S. and it's technology to fight the invasion. The Hubble Space Telescope was created to keep a watchful eye on the invasion fleet; Star Wars technology has been developed to hopefully stop them in outer space before they can get to the earth. Â Today, the government is on the horns of a dilemma. Too may sources are releasing alien information. The public could get angry at continued secrecy. So MJ-12 plans soon to make an "Official" announcement, under controlled conditions, probably Area 51. Network TV will be called to meet the staged 'landing' of the aliens, these being the Greys. They will come bearing gifts, technology that supposedly will heal Cancer and AIDS, retard aging, etc. They will tell us they are 'saviors of humanity' who have come to defend the earth against an invasion of man-eating aliens called Reptoids. Â This story is a LIE, they already work for the Reptoids! Their plan is to unify the world into a One-world Government, a 'New World Order' with the argument that only this can defeat the invasion by Reptoids. This is a trap to enslave the world's population. Control will be accomplished through the money system, a universal currency controlled by certain international bankers, who for years have been lackeys of the aliens, who seized upon their greed and lust for wealth and power as a means to bring about their evil plan to control the earth. (This also being the scenario predicted in the Bible's 'Book of Revelation' wherein only those who accept the Mark of the Beast (the aliens being the 'Beast' and the 'Mark' being some sort of laser tattoo or Credit Card they will use, which will allow people to buy and sell goods). Those who do not accept this 'Mark' must live outside the money system and survive somehow on their own, through barter etc." Â http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardt...ke_invasion.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 What the fuck is this shit JImbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 174 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 What the fuck is this shit JImbo? Â Â To cut to the chase, it is suggesting that "first contact" has already taken place and that there was a trade between high-level groups on Earth with Alien beings in which it was agreed they could have territory on Earth in exchange for technological information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 What the fuck is this shit JImbo? Â Â To cut to the chase, it is suggesting that "first contact" has already taken place and that there was a trade between high-level groups on Earth with Alien beings in which it was agreed they could have territory on Earth in exchange for technological information. Â Â Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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