Disgraceful support?

[bobbyshinton 59]

I remember the last time we played Peterborough when we were in a lower division. We didn't take 4,000, or 6,000 or 8,000, we took over 10,000 we had fans on three sides of the ground, and the standing away bit felt like another Hillsborough was going to happen. Anyone there that day, Sheedy etc....

 

got nicked

[Redshadow 0]

I move that another board is created for "Biggest Club debate" where people can argue abstract ideas of bigness and transcendental notions of self-importance as they relate to the club they support.

 

Or everyone involved could just admit it's important to them because they only have small tig wags and forget about it.

Can you explain to me why this scouse parafin got involved please.

 

 

I confess, small tig wag

[Guest alex]

Red Shadow is a good poster iyam. I realised you don't ask me btw Stevie.

[Happy Face 29]

I move that another board is created for "Biggest Club debate" where people can argue abstract ideas of bigness and transcendental notions of self-importance as they relate to the club they support.

 

Or everyone involved could just admit it's important to them because they only have small tig wags and forget about it.

Can you explain to me why this scouse parafin got involved please.

 

Unlike the court in My Cousin Vinny, it's a forum to be cavalier.

[Redshadow 0]

I mean even though their support was wank under Souness and Houllier etc.. you can understand Liverpool coming on here abusing with their array of trophies, and superior history from 1970 onwards, but fucking Leeds ahhahahaha Yorkshire derby and they cant sell out tonight. Comparing Leeds and Newcastle is like comparing Mystic Meg to Nostradamus.

 

Jesus, does your obsession ever cease Rab/Ian?

 

Your history prior to 1970, or since for that matter, was mostly FA Cup based with only 4 titles won way back in time. By 1970 we’d won 7 titles, if you think that FA Cup wins are better or even as good as that, carry on deluding yourself. Please don’t give us your usual that the cup was more important than the title, it never was and never will be. The FA Cup was the glamour trophy; everyone wanted a day out at Wembley or the equivalent of the time. It was the end of season party when all the hard work had been done. The FA Cup, to a lesser extent ,was much like the CL is nowadays, but very few fans, then or now, would want to win the FA Cup more than the league title. So here’s one LFC fan who wouldn’t swap our history for yours, pre 1970, for anything, but each to their own of course.

 

As for attendances (your own personal wankfest subject) our attendances have always been healthy for the time they were in whether it was under Souness or Houllier or any other manager, plus the fact that we are a two club city. I know you’ll take a couple of individual attendances to try and prove your point but most people go on season averages, and take away the rebuilding, counting by turI wasn't nstile clicks or finances, Liverpool have nothing to be ashamed of whether in the 1st or 2nd division.

 

Take a look at your own attendances for once and stop the fuck using boycotts as a reason. At the end of the day attendances, good or bad, mean fuck all, there are too many other factors attached to them, but the biggest factor is that you don't win a trophy for them.

 

Newcastle

 

Liverpool

 

If your support has always been so good how come you don't even come close to Man United? How come that even with the second biggest capacity for a number of years you aren't even in the top three of this one from one of your own sites?

 

All time attendances

 

 

Even I'm not going to be that pedantic Fop

I wasn't even critcising Liverpool you pilfering, self pitying, Irish dwarf like immigrant. I was making the point that when you compare Liverpool's history from 1974 onwards we can't put an argument that we could compete, prior to 1974 our club had amassed more major trophies than Liverpool regardless how much weighting you put on the League and FA Cup and many put more weight on the FA Cup, but that wasn't the point. The point was Liverpool can come on here and abuse (in terms of the last three decades of success), but Leeds fucking hell? Nah.

 

My second point is about you, you're a cunt and consistently a cunt at that, I don't even know why you replied other than because you're a sad cunt.

 

Thirdly, attendance figures don't matter, but they are reflective of the size of a club throughout the ages regardless what slant you put on it, and again on that score Leeds don't compare, and as Andrew Flintoff rightly pointed out, had it not been for our 24 seasons outside the top flight, the all time average would probably have seen us 1st-3rd. Not that any of that matters presently, but I was retorting to Leeds' assertions that somehow they count, they don't. Alex, considering the support we have in East Durham and Hartlepool, they alone could sell 2,000 tickets for such a game, never mind our Tyneside support. It's 27 miles from Leeds to Rotherham not 40, and that's not forgetting much of Leeds support is from satelite towns like Batley and Wakefield which are even close.

 

 

I’d rather be a pilfering, self pitying Irish dwarf than a Rab C Nesbitt/Ian Paisley tribute act any day of the week, do you have the big ugly face to match, I’d imagine you do?

 

FA Cups don’t compare to league titles no matter how much you try to make it so and your last title was won 80 or so years ago, so how you can put an argument together that you were competing with Liverpool prior to 1974 is ludicrous, unless you mean purely on numbers of trophies. What shall we do bring Charity shields in to it and fairs cups, get a grip you idiotic fool. Titles are where it’s at and after that European Cups, and in both you are vastly outnumbered and outclassed, live with it. Liverpool haven’t even finished out of the top 8 (that was a bad year) for the last 45 years so your three decades comment makes no sense. As for Leeds, being the age I am, I always remember them as a title challenging side. I’ve got no stats to back it up but they were a bugbear to us many a season, and I’d imagine they have many top 3, top 5, finishes in their history.

 

Thanks very much, if the likes of you sees me as a cunt I can only be grateful, the alternative doesn’t appeal at all.

 

You’re the king of IF’s you are. Every fucking fan could place themselves anywhere in any list if they used if’s, and’s buts and maybe’s ffs.. Attendances are neither here nor there when accounting for a clubs status; it’s just one small part of it. If they are as important as you try to make them out to be then I guess you’ll have to credit Spurs with being bigger than Newcastle.

 

Spurs 4th

Regardless how much weight you feel a league title carried, we had more major trophies than you prior to 1974? Yes or no? You had less than us prior to then can you get that through your fucking dense head? As I said it's not even the point, it had fuck all to do with you, you utter tosser of a man, yet still your response is feeble.

 

Spurs are 4th because their league history started in 1903, we had been in the league more than 10 years to that point where gates of 1,000 were common place and is all factored in to the accumulative average. From the time Spurs joined the league crowds of 30,000 and upwards were the norm. Pathetic mentioning that, but once again displaying deep gaps in your armchair garnered knowledge.

 

 

Your posts get more pathetic as you go along Rab/Ian.

 

I don't FEEL the title had more weight, I KNOW it did. If you think FA Cups compare with titles then, as already said, carry on deluding yourself.

 

So, you don't want others butting in to your debates if they don't agree with you? That's too bad then isn't it because unless I'm banned I'll write where I like sonny boy, regardless of you throwing your toys and crying foul.

 

Spurs are 4th, simple as, and I'm as pathetic mentioning that as you are with your constant harping on about attendances and your idiotic if's. Armchairs are very handy when there are matches on the other side of the world.

[Tom 14011]

Red Shadow is a good poster iyam. I realised you don't ask me btw Stevie.

 

He's one of the better visitors I suppose.

 

Like Teed, Teed barely posts he just watches and then posts a smiley every now and then.

 

So after Lurking for 20 minutes....

 

 

Like clockwork

[Guest Stevie]

I remember the last time we played Peterborough when we were in a lower division. We didn't take 4,000, or 6,000 or 8,000, we took over 10,000 we had fans on three sides of the ground, and the standing away bit felt like another Hillsborough was going to happen. Anyone there that day, Sheedy etc....

 

got nicked

I remember being outside a pub (I was only 14), and this bloke walked out struggling, what he'd done is lifted up the wooden tab machine, them old ones, and took it outside, smashed it on the floor and there was a free for all for the tabs, was that you?

 

Red Shadow is a good poster iyam. I realised you don't ask me btw Stevie.

What did you want to know?

[Guest Stevie]

I mean even though their support was wank under Souness and Houllier etc.. you can understand Liverpool coming on here abusing with their array of trophies, and superior history from 1970 onwards, but fucking Leeds ahhahahaha Yorkshire derby and they cant sell out tonight. Comparing Leeds and Newcastle is like comparing Mystic Meg to Nostradamus.

 

Jesus, does your obsession ever cease Rab/Ian?

 

Your history prior to 1970, or since for that matter, was mostly FA Cup based with only 4 titles won way back in time. By 1970 we’d won 7 titles, if you think that FA Cup wins are better or even as good as that, carry on deluding yourself. Please don’t give us your usual that the cup was more important than the title, it never was and never will be. The FA Cup was the glamour trophy; everyone wanted a day out at Wembley or the equivalent of the time. It was the end of season party when all the hard work had been done. The FA Cup, to a lesser extent ,was much like the CL is nowadays, but very few fans, then or now, would want to win the FA Cup more than the league title. So here’s one LFC fan who wouldn’t swap our history for yours, pre 1970, for anything, but each to their own of course.

 

As for attendances (your own personal wankfest subject) our attendances have always been healthy for the time they were in whether it was under Souness or Houllier or any other manager, plus the fact that we are a two club city. I know you’ll take a couple of individual attendances to try and prove your point but most people go on season averages, and take away the rebuilding, counting by turI wasn't nstile clicks or finances, Liverpool have nothing to be ashamed of whether in the 1st or 2nd division.

 

Take a look at your own attendances for once and stop the fuck using boycotts as a reason. At the end of the day attendances, good or bad, mean fuck all, there are too many other factors attached to them, but the biggest factor is that you don't win a trophy for them.

 

Newcastle

 

Liverpool

 

If your support has always been so good how come you don't even come close to Man United? How come that even with the second biggest capacity for a number of years you aren't even in the top three of this one from one of your own sites?

 

All time attendances

 

 

Even I'm not going to be that pedantic Fop

I wasn't even critcising Liverpool you pilfering, self pitying, Irish dwarf like immigrant. I was making the point that when you compare Liverpool's history from 1974 onwards we can't put an argument that we could compete, prior to 1974 our club had amassed more major trophies than Liverpool regardless how much weighting you put on the League and FA Cup and many put more weight on the FA Cup, but that wasn't the point. The point was Liverpool can come on here and abuse (in terms of the last three decades of success), but Leeds fucking hell? Nah.

 

My second point is about you, you're a cunt and consistently a cunt at that, I don't even know why you replied other than because you're a sad cunt.

 

Thirdly, attendance figures don't matter, but they are reflective of the size of a club throughout the ages regardless what slant you put on it, and again on that score Leeds don't compare, and as Andrew Flintoff rightly pointed out, had it not been for our 24 seasons outside the top flight, the all time average would probably have seen us 1st-3rd. Not that any of that matters presently, but I was retorting to Leeds' assertions that somehow they count, they don't. Alex, considering the support we have in East Durham and Hartlepool, they alone could sell 2,000 tickets for such a game, never mind our Tyneside support. It's 27 miles from Leeds to Rotherham not 40, and that's not forgetting much of Leeds support is from satelite towns like Batley and Wakefield which are even close.

 

 

I’d rather be a pilfering, self pitying Irish dwarf than a Rab C Nesbitt/Ian Paisley tribute act any day of the week, do you have the big ugly face to match, I’d imagine you do?

 

FA Cups don’t compare to league titles no matter how much you try to make it so and your last title was won 80 or so years ago, so how you can put an argument together that you were competing with Liverpool prior to 1974 is ludicrous, unless you mean purely on numbers of trophies. What shall we do bring Charity shields in to it and fairs cups, get a grip you idiotic fool. Titles are where it’s at and after that European Cups, and in both you are vastly outnumbered and outclassed, live with it. Liverpool haven’t even finished out of the top 8 (that was a bad year) for the last 45 years so your three decades comment makes no sense. As for Leeds, being the age I am, I always remember them as a title challenging side. I’ve got no stats to back it up but they were a bugbear to us many a season, and I’d imagine they have many top 3, top 5, finishes in their history.

 

Thanks very much, if the likes of you sees me as a cunt I can only be grateful, the alternative doesn’t appeal at all.

 

You’re the king of IF’s you are. Every fucking fan could place themselves anywhere in any list if they used if’s, and’s buts and maybe’s ffs.. Attendances are neither here nor there when accounting for a clubs status; it’s just one small part of it. If they are as important as you try to make them out to be then I guess you’ll have to credit Spurs with being bigger than Newcastle.

 

Spurs 4th

Regardless how much weight you feel a league title carried, we had more major trophies than you prior to 1974? Yes or no? You had less than us prior to then can you get that through your fucking dense head? As I said it's not even the point, it had fuck all to do with you, you utter tosser of a man, yet still your response is feeble.

 

Spurs are 4th because their league history started in 1903, we had been in the league more than 10 years to that point where gates of 1,000 were common place and is all factored in to the accumulative average. From the time Spurs joined the league crowds of 30,000 and upwards were the norm. Pathetic mentioning that, but once again displaying deep gaps in your armchair garnered knowledge.

 

 

Your posts get more pathetic as you go along Rab/Ian.

 

I don't FEEL the title had more weight, I KNOW it did. If you think FA Cups compare with titles then, as already said, carry on deluding yourself.

 

So, you don't want others butting in to your debates if they don't agree with you? That's too bad then isn't it because unless I'm banned I'll write where I like sonny boy, regardless of you throwing your toys and crying foul.

 

Spurs are 4th, simple as, and I'm as pathetic mentioning that as you are with your constant harping on about attendances and your idiotic if's. Armchairs are very handy when there are matches on the other side of the world.

Once again feeble. Did we have more major trophies than Liverpool prior to 1974 yes or no? I know you Merseysiders have issues with the truth throughout your troubled and turbulent past, but this one is looking you in the face. You don't need to expand on it because I don't generally read more than the first sentence of your incessant bollocks, did we have more major trophies than Liverpool prior to 34 years ago? Yes or no?

[Guest alex]

I remember the last time we played Peterborough when we were in a lower division. We didn't take 4,000, or 6,000 or 8,000, we took over 10,000 we had fans on three sides of the ground, and the standing away bit felt like another Hillsborough was going to happen. Anyone there that day, Sheedy etc....

 

got nicked

I remember being outside a pub (I was only 14), and this bloke walked out struggling, what he'd done is lifted up the wooden tab machine, them old ones, and took it outside, smashed it on the floor and there was a free for all for the tabs, was that you?

 

Red Shadow is a good poster iyam. I realised you don't ask me btw Stevie.

What did you want to know?

I said iyam, i.e. 'if you ask me'.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

I'm pretty sure that Stevie is right in saying that winning the FA cup was considered far more prestigious than winning the league in the first half of the 20th century.

[Guest Stevie]

I remember the last time we played Peterborough when we were in a lower division. We didn't take 4,000, or 6,000 or 8,000, we took over 10,000 we had fans on three sides of the ground, and the standing away bit felt like another Hillsborough was going to happen. Anyone there that day, Sheedy etc....

 

got nicked

I remember being outside a pub (I was only 14), and this bloke walked out struggling, what he'd done is lifted up the wooden tab machine, them old ones, and took it outside, smashed it on the floor and there was a free for all for the tabs, was that you?

 

Red Shadow is a good poster iyam. I realised you don't ask me btw Stevie.

What did you want to know?

I said iyam, i.e. 'if you ask me'.

ahaha You're entitled to your opinion as much as the next person Alex, sometimes they're good. However to say he's a good poster is the same as saying Derek Hatton was a good politician.

[Guest Stevie]

I'm pretty sure that Stevie is right in saying that winning the FA cup was considered far more prestigious than winning the league in the first half of the 20th century.

Right up to 70's even, it's not even in doubt.

[Guest alex]

I'm pretty sure that Stevie is right in saying that winning the FA cup was considered far more prestigious than winning the league in the first half of the 20th century.

I would tend to agree. I'm not sure what that proves either way though. The best team still won the league in any case.

[Asprilla 96]

This thread....

[triggy99 0]

This thread....

 

just need Danny B to get involved

[Guest Stevie]

I'm pretty sure that Stevie is right in saying that winning the FA cup was considered far more prestigious than winning the league in the first half of the 20th century.

I would tend to agree. I'm not sure what that proves either way though. The best team still won the league in any case.

It doesn't prove anything other than we had more major trophies than Liverpool before the mid 70's, which was completely getting away from the point about Leeds. I was actually giving Liverpool a back handed compliment saying since the mid 70s we can't compete with their trophy winning, so you can understand them saying comparatively since then we have a shit history, but Leeds??! Please feel free to carry on championing and arselicking the biggest clueless cunt I've seen on this message board though.

[Guest alex]

I remember the last time we played Peterborough when we were in a lower division. We didn't take 4,000, or 6,000 or 8,000, we took over 10,000 we had fans on three sides of the ground, and the standing away bit felt like another Hillsborough was going to happen. Anyone there that day, Sheedy etc....

 

got nicked

I remember being outside a pub (I was only 14), and this bloke walked out struggling, what he'd done is lifted up the wooden tab machine, them old ones, and took it outside, smashed it on the floor and there was a free for all for the tabs, was that you?

 

Red Shadow is a good poster iyam. I realised you don't ask me btw Stevie.

What did you want to know?

I said iyam, i.e. 'if you ask me'.

ahaha You're entitled to your opinion as much as the next person Alex, sometimes they're good. However to say he's a good poster is the same as saying Derek Hatton was a good politician.

All he's done has defended his club against what he perceives as mistruths or whatever. He's argued his case well too imo. You're blinded by your bigotry as usual though.

[Guest Stevie]

I remember the last time we played Peterborough when we were in a lower division. We didn't take 4,000, or 6,000 or 8,000, we took over 10,000 we had fans on three sides of the ground, and the standing away bit felt like another Hillsborough was going to happen. Anyone there that day, Sheedy etc....

 

got nicked

I remember being outside a pub (I was only 14), and this bloke walked out struggling, what he'd done is lifted up the wooden tab machine, them old ones, and took it outside, smashed it on the floor and there was a free for all for the tabs, was that you?

 

Red Shadow is a good poster iyam. I realised you don't ask me btw Stevie.

What did you want to know?

I said iyam, i.e. 'if you ask me'.

ahaha You're entitled to your opinion as much as the next person Alex, sometimes they're good. However to say he's a good poster is the same as saying Derek Hatton was a good politician.

All he's done has defended his club against what he perceives as mistruths or whatever. He's argued his case well too imo. You're blinded by your bigotry as usual though.

How has he argued his case well?? Incredible comment. How is saying "I KNOW THE LEAGUE WAS SEEN AS MORE IMPORTANT" arguing his case well, for you to agree with Dr Kenneth by saying the FAC was seen as more prestigious. Completely contradicting yourself. Sort it out eh?

[Asprilla 96]

This thread....

 

just need Danny B to get involved

"HOUSE!!"

 

[Guest alex]

I remember the last time we played Peterborough when we were in a lower division. We didn't take 4,000, or 6,000 or 8,000, we took over 10,000 we had fans on three sides of the ground, and the standing away bit felt like another Hillsborough was going to happen. Anyone there that day, Sheedy etc....

 

got nicked

I remember being outside a pub (I was only 14), and this bloke walked out struggling, what he'd done is lifted up the wooden tab machine, them old ones, and took it outside, smashed it on the floor and there was a free for all for the tabs, was that you?

 

Red Shadow is a good poster iyam. I realised you don't ask me btw Stevie.

What did you want to know?

I said iyam, i.e. 'if you ask me'.

ahaha You're entitled to your opinion as much as the next person Alex, sometimes they're good. However to say he's a good poster is the same as saying Derek Hatton was a good politician.

All he's done has defended his club against what he perceives as mistruths or whatever. He's argued his case well too imo. You're blinded by your bigotry as usual though.

How has he argued his case well?? Incredible comment. How is saying "I KNOW THE LEAGUE WAS SEEN AS MORE IMPORTANT" arguing his case well, for you to agree with Dr Kenneth by saying the FAC was seen as more prestigious. Completely contradicting yourself. Sort it out eh?

Overall I meant. Sorry if I've missed some of minutiae but I'm not really interested. I only dipped in because I appreciate the views of other club's fans when they're good craic. Try getting to grips with people having a different opinion to you as well btw.

[triggy99 0]

This thread....

 

just need Danny B to get involved

"HOUSE!!"

 

 

stevies bird?

[Guest Stevie]

I remember the last time we played Peterborough when we were in a lower division. We didn't take 4,000, or 6,000 or 8,000, we took over 10,000 we had fans on three sides of the ground, and the standing away bit felt like another Hillsborough was going to happen. Anyone there that day, Sheedy etc....

 

got nicked

I remember being outside a pub (I was only 14), and this bloke walked out struggling, what he'd done is lifted up the wooden tab machine, them old ones, and took it outside, smashed it on the floor and there was a free for all for the tabs, was that you?

 

Red Shadow is a good poster iyam. I realised you don't ask me btw Stevie.

What did you want to know?

I said iyam, i.e. 'if you ask me'.

ahaha You're entitled to your opinion as much as the next person Alex, sometimes they're good. However to say he's a good poster is the same as saying Derek Hatton was a good politician.

All he's done has defended his club against what he perceives as mistruths or whatever. He's argued his case well too imo. You're blinded by your bigotry as usual though.

How has he argued his case well?? Incredible comment. How is saying "I KNOW THE LEAGUE WAS SEEN AS MORE IMPORTANT" arguing his case well, for you to agree with Dr Kenneth by saying the FAC was seen as more prestigious. Completely contradicting yourself. Sort it out eh?

Overall I meant. Sorry if I've missed some of minutiae but I'm not really interested. I only dipped in because I appreciate the views of other club's fans when they're good craic. Try getting to grips with people having a different opinion to you as well btw.

I'm all for visiting fans coming on here. I've said in the past I thought FCUM was the most knowledgable and interesting poster on here. I've been accomodating to Danny B on occasion, but this has had nothing to with RedShadow, I wasn't even having a go at Liverpool, and he gets emotional because I said we had more major trophies up to the mid 70's than Liverpool, we did, all I'm saying is he's a cunt, because that's what he is, and there's more than just this thread.

[Redshadow 0]

I mean even though their support was wank under Souness and Houllier etc.. you can understand Liverpool coming on here abusing with their array of trophies, and superior history from 1970 onwards, but fucking Leeds ahhahahaha Yorkshire derby and they cant sell out tonight. Comparing Leeds and Newcastle is like comparing Mystic Meg to Nostradamus.

 

Jesus, does your obsession ever cease Rab/Ian?

 

Your history prior to 1970, or since for that matter, was mostly FA Cup based with only 4 titles won way back in time. By 1970 we’d won 7 titles, if you think that FA Cup wins are better or even as good as that, carry on deluding yourself. Please don’t give us your usual that the cup was more important than the title, it never was and never will be. The FA Cup was the glamour trophy; everyone wanted a day out at Wembley or the equivalent of the time. It was the end of season party when all the hard work had been done. The FA Cup, to a lesser extent ,was much like the CL is nowadays, but very few fans, then or now, would want to win the FA Cup more than the league title. So here’s one LFC fan who wouldn’t swap our history for yours, pre 1970, for anything, but each to their own of course.

 

As for attendances (your own personal wankfest subject) our attendances have always been healthy for the time they were in whether it was under Souness or Houllier or any other manager, plus the fact that we are a two club city. I know you’ll take a couple of individual attendances to try and prove your point but most people go on season averages, and take away the rebuilding, counting by turI wasn't nstile clicks or finances, Liverpool have nothing to be ashamed of whether in the 1st or 2nd division.

 

Take a look at your own attendances for once and stop the fuck using boycotts as a reason. At the end of the day attendances, good or bad, mean fuck all, there are too many other factors attached to them, but the biggest factor is that you don't win a trophy for them.

 

Newcastle

 

Liverpool

 

If your support has always been so good how come you don't even come close to Man United? How come that even with the second biggest capacity for a number of years you aren't even in the top three of this one from one of your own sites?

 

All time attendances

 

 

Even I'm not going to be that pedantic Fop

I wasn't even critcising Liverpool you pilfering, self pitying, Irish dwarf like immigrant. I was making the point that when you compare Liverpool's history from 1974 onwards we can't put an argument that we could compete, prior to 1974 our club had amassed more major trophies than Liverpool regardless how much weighting you put on the League and FA Cup and many put more weight on the FA Cup, but that wasn't the point. The point was Liverpool can come on here and abuse (in terms of the last three decades of success), but Leeds fucking hell? Nah.

 

My second point is about you, you're a cunt and consistently a cunt at that, I don't even know why you replied other than because you're a sad cunt.

 

Thirdly, attendance figures don't matter, but they are reflective of the size of a club throughout the ages regardless what slant you put on it, and again on that score Leeds don't compare, and as Andrew Flintoff rightly pointed out, had it not been for our 24 seasons outside the top flight, the all time average would probably have seen us 1st-3rd. Not that any of that matters presently, but I was retorting to Leeds' assertions that somehow they count, they don't. Alex, considering the support we have in East Durham and Hartlepool, they alone could sell 2,000 tickets for such a game, never mind our Tyneside support. It's 27 miles from Leeds to Rotherham not 40, and that's not forgetting much of Leeds support is from satelite towns like Batley and Wakefield which are even close.

 

 

I’d rather be a pilfering, self pitying Irish dwarf than a Rab C Nesbitt/Ian Paisley tribute act any day of the week, do you have the big ugly face to match, I’d imagine you do?

 

FA Cups don’t compare to league titles no matter how much you try to make it so and your last title was won 80 or so years ago, so how you can put an argument together that you were competing with Liverpool prior to 1974 is ludicrous, unless you mean purely on numbers of trophies. What shall we do bring Charity shields in to it and fairs cups, get a grip you idiotic fool. Titles are where it’s at and after that European Cups, and in both you are vastly outnumbered and outclassed, live with it. Liverpool haven’t even finished out of the top 8 (that was a bad year) for the last 45 years so your three decades comment makes no sense. As for Leeds, being the age I am, I always remember them as a title challenging side. I’ve got no stats to back it up but they were a bugbear to us many a season, and I’d imagine they have many top 3, top 5, finishes in their history.

 

Thanks very much, if the likes of you sees me as a cunt I can only be grateful, the alternative doesn’t appeal at all.

 

You’re the king of IF’s you are. Every fucking fan could place themselves anywhere in any list if they used if’s, and’s buts and maybe’s ffs.. Attendances are neither here nor there when accounting for a clubs status; it’s just one small part of it. If they are as important as you try to make them out to be then I guess you’ll have to credit Spurs with being bigger than Newcastle.

 

Spurs 4th

Regardless how much weight you feel a league title carried, we had more major trophies than you prior to 1974? Yes or no? You had less than us prior to then can you get that through your fucking dense head? As I said it's not even the point, it had fuck all to do with you, you utter tosser of a man, yet still your response is feeble.

 

Spurs are 4th because their league history started in 1903, we had been in the league more than 10 years to that point where gates of 1,000 were common place and is all factored in to the accumulative average. From the time Spurs joined the league crowds of 30,000 and upwards were the norm. Pathetic mentioning that, but once again displaying deep gaps in your armchair garnered knowledge.

 

 

Your posts get more pathetic as you go along Rab/Ian.

 

I don't FEEL the title had more weight, I KNOW it did. If you think FA Cups compare with titles then, as already said, carry on deluding yourself.

 

So, you don't want others butting in to your debates if they don't agree with you? That's too bad then isn't it because unless I'm banned I'll write where I like sonny boy, regardless of you throwing your toys and crying foul.

 

Spurs are 4th, simple as, and I'm as pathetic mentioning that as you are with your constant harping on about attendances and your idiotic if's. Armchairs are very handy when there are matches on the other side of the world.

Once again feeble. Did we have more major trophies than Liverpool prior to 1974 yes or no? I know you Merseysiders have issues with the truth throughout your troubled and turbulent past, but this one is looking you in the face. You don't need to expand on it because I don't generally read more than the first sentence of your incessant bollocks, did we have more major trophies than Liverpool prior to 34 years ago? Yes or no?

 

 

I'd have to say no to major I'm afraid. Any club can win the FA Cup or League Cup, the best team in the country wins the league title, so no comparison for me. In number of trophies, be they whatever, then yes, I agree but I'm so glad that's your history and not ours. The Fairs cup was as mickey mouse as the league cup, so for me, your 4 league titles are your real glory, which compares favourably to many clubs.

 

I have no issues with the truth whatsoever, it's out and out liars and make believers like you that wind me up. Our troubled and turbulent past has been just a part of our also magnificent and glorious past, and all taken on board, no problem. I'm a very proud Scouser of city and team.

 

There you go telling lies AGAIN, you read every last word I post and your silly 'don't read more than the first sentence' defines your gross inability to cope with the truth.

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Honestly man

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I remember the last time we played Peterborough when we were in a lower division. We didn't take 4,000, or 6,000 or 8,000, we took over 10,000 we had fans on three sides of the ground, and the standing away bit felt like another Hillsborough was going to happen. Anyone there that day, Sheedy etc....

 

got nicked

I remember being outside a pub (I was only 14), and this bloke walked out struggling, what he'd done is lifted up the wooden tab machine, them old ones, and took it outside, smashed it on the floor and there was a free for all for the tabs, was that you?

 

Red Shadow is a good poster iyam. I realised you don't ask me btw Stevie.

What did you want to know?

I said iyam, i.e. 'if you ask me'.

ahaha You're entitled to your opinion as much as the next person Alex, sometimes they're good. However to say he's a good poster is the same as saying Derek Hatton was a good politician.

All he's done has defended his club against what he perceives as mistruths or whatever. He's argued his case well too imo. You're blinded by your bigotry as usual though.

How has he argued his case well?? Incredible comment. How is saying "I KNOW THE LEAGUE WAS SEEN AS MORE IMPORTANT" arguing his case well, for you to agree with Dr Kenneth by saying the FAC was seen as more prestigious. Completely contradicting yourself. Sort it out eh?

Overall I meant. Sorry if I've missed some of minutiae but I'm not really interested. I only dipped in because I appreciate the views of other club's fans when they're good craic. Try getting to grips with people having a different opinion to you as well btw.