Disgraceful support?

[Tom 14011]

To be fair it's the Johnsons Paint trophy and the ground is 25k.

[Guest Stevie]

To be fair it's the Johnsons Paint trophy and the ground is 25k.

If there;s 4000 there no more than 2000 are Leeds. The game is 10 miles down the road. Any senior game 10 miles from us, can you imagine only 2,000 people being interested enough to fucking go?

[trophyshy 7083]

I mean even though their support was wank under Souness and Houllier etc.. you can understand Liverpool coming on here abusing with their array of trophies, and superior history from 1970 onwards, but fucking Leeds ahhahahaha Yorkshire derby and they cant sell out tonight. Comparing Leeds and Newcastle is like comparing Mystic Meg to Nostradamus.

 

Fair point but howay Stevie, modern vs ancient bunkum?

 

...keep your analogies out of fantasy no matter how fitting it may seem

Edited October 8, 2008 by trophyshy

[AmericanMag 0]

For some reason... every time I read his posts and "LEEDS" I would hear it in an Eddie Izzard voice when he was doing that bit about bees..

 

 

"I am covered in BEEEEEEES"

[MrBass 2651]

I could gather statistics and facts to prove you wrong, mention various decent and factual excuses but I'm going to whack my Ipod in the dog and come back to see if it has gotten interesting.

 

[Tooj 17]

The most you have ever averaged is about 40'000 and that was at your very peak.

 

Everton was a televised match on a Sunday....

 

*Yawn*

 

thats because our stadium is a 40,000 capacity shit brick!

 

and because everton is a televised match isnt an excuse... its not like ur playin portsmouth or someone at the other end of the country. we are talking over 2000 2 see leeds play the mighty rotherham 2nite in the paint trophy!!!

 

just shows how our support are willing 2 follow our team through thick and thin. god knows what ur support would be like in our position.... typical cartoon army!

[Redshadow 0]

I mean even though their support was wank under Souness and Houllier etc.. you can understand Liverpool coming on here abusing with their array of trophies, and superior history from 1970 onwards, but fucking Leeds ahhahahaha Yorkshire derby and they cant sell out tonight. Comparing Leeds and Newcastle is like comparing Mystic Meg to Nostradamus.

 

Jesus, does your obsession ever cease Rab/Ian?

 

Your history prior to 1970, or since for that matter, was mostly FA Cup based with only 4 titles won way back in time. By 1970 we’d won 7 titles, if you think that FA Cup wins are better or even as good as that, carry on deluding yourself. Please don’t give us your usual that the cup was more important than the title, it never was and never will be. The FA Cup was the glamour trophy; everyone wanted a day out at Wembley or the equivalent of the time. It was the end of season party when all the hard work had been done. The FA Cup, to a lesser extent ,was much like the CL is nowadays, but very few fans, then or now, would want to win the FA Cup more than the league title. So here’s one LFC fan who wouldn’t swap our history for yours, pre 1970, for anything, but each to their own of course.

 

As for attendances (your own personal wankfest subject) our attendances have always been healthy for the time they were in whether it was under Souness or Houllier or any other manager, plus the fact that we are a two club city. I know you’ll take a couple of individual attendances to try and prove your point but most people go on season averages, and take away the rebuilding, counting by turnstile clicks or finances, Liverpool have nothing to be ashamed of whether in the 1st or 2nd division.

 

Take a look at your own attendances for once and stop the fuck using boycotts as a reason. At the end of the day attendances, good or bad, mean fuck all, there are too many other factors attached to them, but the biggest factor is that you don't win a trophy for them.

 

Newcastle

 

Liverpool

 

If your support has always been so good how come you don't even come close to Man United? How come that even with the second biggest capacity for a number of years you aren't even in the top three of this one from one of your own sites?

 

All time attendances

 

 

Even I'm not going to be that pedantic Fop

[Andrew Flintoff 0]

Amount of time spent outside the top tier would probably have an impact on that, I'd suggest.

[Guest alex]

To be fair it's the Johnsons Paint trophy and the ground is 25k.

If there;s 4000 there no more than 2000 are Leeds. The game is 10 miles down the road. Any senior game 10 miles from us, can you imagine only 2,000 people being interested enough to fucking go?

No it isn't, it's more like 40 miles away. And it's perfectly conceivable that if we were in League One and we were playing someone like Hartlepool in this competition on a Wednesday night in October that we'd struggle to take 2000 fans.

[Redshadow 0]

Amount of time spent outside the top tier would probably have an impact on that, I'd suggest.

 

 

I wouldn't disagree at all Andrew, as far as I'm concerned attendances don't mean a great deal. So many other things come in to it. Take the likes of Bolton or Blackburn, they aren't only competing with other Premiership clubs in their region but also two of the biggest in the world.

 

Newcastle on the whole have had a great attendance record through their history but using them as a substitute for a trophy, as this guy does, will always leave room for other fans to pick holes.

[Teed 0]

i couldnt believe this when i heard on saturday when you guys didnt sell your 3000 allocation at everton, on the same day leeds took over 4200 to peterborough.

disgraceful support. i suppose you guys have had it bad though... unlike leeds!

 

WE ARE LEEDS

 

ON ON ON

 

 

http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/08-09/comm...bmissionID=9634

We had what turned out to be 1,600, at a place where you couldn't get back home by train given the time, live on SKY at a time when there is a boycott on and people are waiting for Ashley to leave, during a run of five consequitive defeats. You fucking ugly Yorkshire miners strike, fuckin drinkin 10 pint beat up t'wife and kids Yorkshire bastard. It would've been criminal not to take 4,000 to Peterborough for you, on a Saturday, 1 hour away on the train, on the right line. Contrast that with our 5,000+ at Doncaster in the summer, for a pre season friendly.

 

Leeds are a nothing club, never averaged over 40,000 in your history, never will, average gates of THIRTEEN THOUSAND in THREE seasons in living memory, you are grimy Rugby League town which lacks individuality and personality. Know your place you fuckin Yorkshire nobhead. No disrespect to the many Leeds born and based Toon fans on here.

all im saying is we would of filled our allocation no matter what, not find a cop out that we 'couldn't get the train home on time' ... bull shit. we would have filled our allocation whether it was away at yeovil on a tuesday night in the jpt, or a t scum in the semi final of the fa cup. but thats leeds... wer not like other clubs.

 

and again the reason why we have never averaged above 40,000 is because our stadium is capacity 40,000 soft lad.

 

anyway whether you accept it or not leeds are a bigger club with the best fans in the country. on and off the pitch. FACT!

 

i am now going to delete my account from this feeble forum and continue posting on the leeds equivalent. waccoe.co.uk which i might add has over 25,000 members, again showing our superiority. fell free to post anytime.

 

see u guys at saint johns next year!

 

ON ON ON

Sunderland know in their hearts they are not, never have been, or ever will be as big as Newcastle United. well.

 

 

Sunderland 75,118 Roker Park Derby County FA Cup 6 R FA Cup sixth round replay 01933-03-08 8 March 1933

 

Newcastle United 68,386 St James' Park Chelsea League 1 First Division 01930-09-03 3 September

 

Get your facts right!....

 

 

Leeds highest atts = Leeds United 57,892 Elland Road Sunderland FA Cup 5 R FA Cup fifth round replay 01967-03-15 15 March 1967

 

 

PS. we won 6 league titles to your 4..enough said i think!

[Tom 14011]

The most you have ever averaged is about 40'000 and that was at your very peak.

 

Everton was a televised match on a Sunday....

 

*Yawn*

 

thats because our stadium is a 40,000 capacity shit brick!

 

and because everton is a televised match isnt an excuse... its not like ur playin portsmouth or someone at the other end of the country. we are talking over 2000 2 see leeds play the mighty rotherham 2nite in the paint trophy!!!

 

just shows how our support are willing 2 follow our team through thick and thin. god knows what ur support would be like in our position.... typical cartoon army!

 

 

Ours is 52k, so how did we squeeze 68K through the door in 1930...

 

Oh yeah, stadiums change...

[Gemmill 44852]

Arguments about football match attendances are a worthwhile pursuit. Discuss.

[Meenzer 15524]

Arguments about football match attendances are a worthwhile pursuit. Discuss.

Depends. How many loyalty points have you got?

[Gemmill 44852]

Arguments about football match attendances are a worthwhile pursuit. Discuss.

Depends. How many loyalty points have you got?

They're like one time at band camp stories. And then this one time, in the 70s, only 26,000 people showed up. But then this one time, in the 80s etc etc.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

Arguments about football match attendances are a worthwhile pursuit. Discuss.

Depends. How many loyalty points have you got?

They're like one time at band camp stories. And then this one time, in the 70s, only 26,000 people showed up. But then this one time, in the 80s etc etc.

How come you're posting through the day again?

[Gemmill 44852]

Arguments about football match attendances are a worthwhile pursuit. Discuss.

Depends. How many loyalty points have you got?

They're like one time at band camp stories. And then this one time, in the 70s, only 26,000 people showed up. But then this one time, in the 80s etc etc.

How come you're posting through the day again?

iphone.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

Arguments about football match attendances are a worthwhile pursuit. Discuss.

Depends. How many loyalty points have you got?

They're like one time at band camp stories. And then this one time, in the 70s, only 26,000 people showed up. But then this one time, in the 80s etc etc.

How come you're posting through the day again?

iphone.

Nice.

[Guest Stevie]

I mean even though their support was wank under Souness and Houllier etc.. you can understand Liverpool coming on here abusing with their array of trophies, and superior history from 1970 onwards, but fucking Leeds ahhahahaha Yorkshire derby and they cant sell out tonight. Comparing Leeds and Newcastle is like comparing Mystic Meg to Nostradamus.

 

Jesus, does your obsession ever cease Rab/Ian?

 

Your history prior to 1970, or since for that matter, was mostly FA Cup based with only 4 titles won way back in time. By 1970 we’d won 7 titles, if you think that FA Cup wins are better or even as good as that, carry on deluding yourself. Please don’t give us your usual that the cup was more important than the title, it never was and never will be. The FA Cup was the glamour trophy; everyone wanted a day out at Wembley or the equivalent of the time. It was the end of season party when all the hard work had been done. The FA Cup, to a lesser extent ,was much like the CL is nowadays, but very few fans, then or now, would want to win the FA Cup more than the league title. So here’s one LFC fan who wouldn’t swap our history for yours, pre 1970, for anything, but each to their own of course.

 

As for attendances (your own personal wankfest subject) our attendances have always been healthy for the time they were in whether it was under Souness or Houllier or any other manager, plus the fact that we are a two club city. I know you’ll take a couple of individual attendances to try and prove your point but most people go on season averages, and take away the rebuilding, counting by turI wasn't nstile clicks or finances, Liverpool have nothing to be ashamed of whether in the 1st or 2nd division.

 

Take a look at your own attendances for once and stop the fuck using boycotts as a reason. At the end of the day attendances, good or bad, mean fuck all, there are too many other factors attached to them, but the biggest factor is that you don't win a trophy for them.

 

Newcastle

 

Liverpool

 

If your support has always been so good how come you don't even come close to Man United? How come that even with the second biggest capacity for a number of years you aren't even in the top three of this one from one of your own sites?

 

All time attendances

 

 

Even I'm not going to be that pedantic Fop

I wasn't even critcising Liverpool you pilfering, self pitying, Irish dwarf like immigrant. I was making the point that when you compare Liverpool's history from 1974 onwards we can't put an argument that we could compete, prior to 1974 our club had amassed more major trophies than Liverpool regardless how much weighting you put on the League and FA Cup and many put more weight on the FA Cup, but that wasn't the point. The point was Liverpool can come on here and abuse (in terms of the last three decades of success), but Leeds fucking hell? Nah.

 

My second point is about you, you're a cunt and consistently a cunt at that, I don't even know why you replied other than because you're a sad cunt.

 

Thirdly, attendance figures don't matter, but they are reflective of the size of a club throughout the ages regardless what slant you put on it, and again on that score Leeds don't compare, and as Andrew Flintoff rightly pointed out, had it not been for our 24 seasons outside the top flight, the all time average would probably have seen us 1st-3rd. Not that any of that matters presently, but I was retorting to Leeds' assertions that somehow they count, they don't. Alex, considering the support we have in East Durham and Hartlepool, they alone could sell 2,000 tickets for such a game, never mind our Tyneside support. It's 27 miles from Leeds to Rotherham not 40, and that's not forgetting much of Leeds support is from satelite towns like Batley and Wakefield which are even close.

[Fop 1]

Even I'm not going to be that pedantic Fop

 

 

So you were lying then.

 

 

There's 398 trains daily directly to Mars you know.

[Park Life 71]

Even I'm not going to be that pedantic Fop

 

 

So you were lying then.

 

 

There's 398 trains daily directly to Mars you know.

 

via uranus?

[Redshadow 0]

I mean even though their support was wank under Souness and Houllier etc.. you can understand Liverpool coming on here abusing with their array of trophies, and superior history from 1970 onwards, but fucking Leeds ahhahahaha Yorkshire derby and they cant sell out tonight. Comparing Leeds and Newcastle is like comparing Mystic Meg to Nostradamus.

 

Jesus, does your obsession ever cease Rab/Ian?

 

Your history prior to 1970, or since for that matter, was mostly FA Cup based with only 4 titles won way back in time. By 1970 we’d won 7 titles, if you think that FA Cup wins are better or even as good as that, carry on deluding yourself. Please don’t give us your usual that the cup was more important than the title, it never was and never will be. The FA Cup was the glamour trophy; everyone wanted a day out at Wembley or the equivalent of the time. It was the end of season party when all the hard work had been done. The FA Cup, to a lesser extent ,was much like the CL is nowadays, but very few fans, then or now, would want to win the FA Cup more than the league title. So here’s one LFC fan who wouldn’t swap our history for yours, pre 1970, for anything, but each to their own of course.

 

As for attendances (your own personal wankfest subject) our attendances have always been healthy for the time they were in whether it was under Souness or Houllier or any other manager, plus the fact that we are a two club city. I know you’ll take a couple of individual attendances to try and prove your point but most people go on season averages, and take away the rebuilding, counting by turI wasn't nstile clicks or finances, Liverpool have nothing to be ashamed of whether in the 1st or 2nd division.

 

Take a look at your own attendances for once and stop the fuck using boycotts as a reason. At the end of the day attendances, good or bad, mean fuck all, there are too many other factors attached to them, but the biggest factor is that you don't win a trophy for them.

 

Newcastle

 

Liverpool

 

If your support has always been so good how come you don't even come close to Man United? How come that even with the second biggest capacity for a number of years you aren't even in the top three of this one from one of your own sites?

 

All time attendances

 

 

Even I'm not going to be that pedantic Fop

I wasn't even critcising Liverpool you pilfering, self pitying, Irish dwarf like immigrant. I was making the point that when you compare Liverpool's history from 1974 onwards we can't put an argument that we could compete, prior to 1974 our club had amassed more major trophies than Liverpool regardless how much weighting you put on the League and FA Cup and many put more weight on the FA Cup, but that wasn't the point. The point was Liverpool can come on here and abuse (in terms of the last three decades of success), but Leeds fucking hell? Nah.

 

My second point is about you, you're a cunt and consistently a cunt at that, I don't even know why you replied other than because you're a sad cunt.

 

Thirdly, attendance figures don't matter, but they are reflective of the size of a club throughout the ages regardless what slant you put on it, and again on that score Leeds don't compare, and as Andrew Flintoff rightly pointed out, had it not been for our 24 seasons outside the top flight, the all time average would probably have seen us 1st-3rd. Not that any of that matters presently, but I was retorting to Leeds' assertions that somehow they count, they don't. Alex, considering the support we have in East Durham and Hartlepool, they alone could sell 2,000 tickets for such a game, never mind our Tyneside support. It's 27 miles from Leeds to Rotherham not 40, and that's not forgetting much of Leeds support is from satelite towns like Batley and Wakefield which are even close.

 

 

I’d rather be a pilfering, self pitying Irish dwarf than a Rab C Nesbitt/Ian Paisley tribute act any day of the week, do you have the big ugly face to match, I’d imagine you do?

 

FA Cups don’t compare to league titles no matter how much you try to make it so and your last title was won 80 or so years ago, so how you can put an argument together that you were competing with Liverpool prior to 1974 is ludicrous, unless you mean purely on numbers of trophies. What shall we do bring Charity shields in to it and fairs cups, get a grip you idiotic fool. Titles are where it’s at and after that European Cups, and in both you are vastly outnumbered and outclassed, live with it. Liverpool haven’t even finished out of the top 8 (that was a bad year) for the last 45 years so your three decades comment makes no sense. As for Leeds, being the age I am, I always remember them as a title challenging side. I’ve got no stats to back it up but they were a bugbear to us many a season, and I’d imagine they have many top 3, top 5, finishes in their history.

 

Thanks very much, if the likes of you sees me as a cunt I can only be grateful, the alternative doesn’t appeal at all.

 

You’re the king of IF’s you are. Every fucking fan could place themselves anywhere in any list if they used if’s, and’s buts and maybe’s ffs.. Attendances are neither here nor there when accounting for a clubs status; it’s just one small part of it. If they are as important as you try to make them out to be then I guess you’ll have to credit Spurs with being bigger than Newcastle.

 

Spurs 4th

[Happy Face 29]

I move that another board is created for "Biggest Club debate" where people can argue abstract ideas of bigness and transcendental notions of self-importance as they relate to the club they support.

 

Or everyone involved could just admit it's important to them because they only have small tig wags and forget about it.

Edited October 9, 2008 by Happy Face

[Guest Stevie]

I mean even though their support was wank under Souness and Houllier etc.. you can understand Liverpool coming on here abusing with their array of trophies, and superior history from 1970 onwards, but fucking Leeds ahhahahaha Yorkshire derby and they cant sell out tonight. Comparing Leeds and Newcastle is like comparing Mystic Meg to Nostradamus.

 

Jesus, does your obsession ever cease Rab/Ian?

 

Your history prior to 1970, or since for that matter, was mostly FA Cup based with only 4 titles won way back in time. By 1970 we’d won 7 titles, if you think that FA Cup wins are better or even as good as that, carry on deluding yourself. Please don’t give us your usual that the cup was more important than the title, it never was and never will be. The FA Cup was the glamour trophy; everyone wanted a day out at Wembley or the equivalent of the time. It was the end of season party when all the hard work had been done. The FA Cup, to a lesser extent ,was much like the CL is nowadays, but very few fans, then or now, would want to win the FA Cup more than the league title. So here’s one LFC fan who wouldn’t swap our history for yours, pre 1970, for anything, but each to their own of course.

 

As for attendances (your own personal wankfest subject) our attendances have always been healthy for the time they were in whether it was under Souness or Houllier or any other manager, plus the fact that we are a two club city. I know you’ll take a couple of individual attendances to try and prove your point but most people go on season averages, and take away the rebuilding, counting by turI wasn't nstile clicks or finances, Liverpool have nothing to be ashamed of whether in the 1st or 2nd division.

 

Take a look at your own attendances for once and stop the fuck using boycotts as a reason. At the end of the day attendances, good or bad, mean fuck all, there are too many other factors attached to them, but the biggest factor is that you don't win a trophy for them.

 

Newcastle

 

Liverpool

 

If your support has always been so good how come you don't even come close to Man United? How come that even with the second biggest capacity for a number of years you aren't even in the top three of this one from one of your own sites?

 

All time attendances

 

 

Even I'm not going to be that pedantic Fop

I wasn't even critcising Liverpool you pilfering, self pitying, Irish dwarf like immigrant. I was making the point that when you compare Liverpool's history from 1974 onwards we can't put an argument that we could compete, prior to 1974 our club had amassed more major trophies than Liverpool regardless how much weighting you put on the League and FA Cup and many put more weight on the FA Cup, but that wasn't the point. The point was Liverpool can come on here and abuse (in terms of the last three decades of success), but Leeds fucking hell? Nah.

 

My second point is about you, you're a cunt and consistently a cunt at that, I don't even know why you replied other than because you're a sad cunt.

 

Thirdly, attendance figures don't matter, but they are reflective of the size of a club throughout the ages regardless what slant you put on it, and again on that score Leeds don't compare, and as Andrew Flintoff rightly pointed out, had it not been for our 24 seasons outside the top flight, the all time average would probably have seen us 1st-3rd. Not that any of that matters presently, but I was retorting to Leeds' assertions that somehow they count, they don't. Alex, considering the support we have in East Durham and Hartlepool, they alone could sell 2,000 tickets for such a game, never mind our Tyneside support. It's 27 miles from Leeds to Rotherham not 40, and that's not forgetting much of Leeds support is from satelite towns like Batley and Wakefield which are even close.

 

 

I’d rather be a pilfering, self pitying Irish dwarf than a Rab C Nesbitt/Ian Paisley tribute act any day of the week, do you have the big ugly face to match, I’d imagine you do?

 

FA Cups don’t compare to league titles no matter how much you try to make it so and your last title was won 80 or so years ago, so how you can put an argument together that you were competing with Liverpool prior to 1974 is ludicrous, unless you mean purely on numbers of trophies. What shall we do bring Charity shields in to it and fairs cups, get a grip you idiotic fool. Titles are where it’s at and after that European Cups, and in both you are vastly outnumbered and outclassed, live with it. Liverpool haven’t even finished out of the top 8 (that was a bad year) for the last 45 years so your three decades comment makes no sense. As for Leeds, being the age I am, I always remember them as a title challenging side. I’ve got no stats to back it up but they were a bugbear to us many a season, and I’d imagine they have many top 3, top 5, finishes in their history.

 

Thanks very much, if the likes of you sees me as a cunt I can only be grateful, the alternative doesn’t appeal at all.

 

You’re the king of IF’s you are. Every fucking fan could place themselves anywhere in any list if they used if’s, and’s buts and maybe’s ffs.. Attendances are neither here nor there when accounting for a clubs status; it’s just one small part of it. If they are as important as you try to make them out to be then I guess you’ll have to credit Spurs with being bigger than Newcastle.

 

Spurs 4th

Regardless how much weight you feel a league title carried, we had more major trophies than you prior to 1974? Yes or no? You had less than us prior to then can you get that through your fucking dense head? As I said it's not even the point, it had fuck all to do with you, you utter tosser of a man, yet still your response is feeble.

 

Spurs are 4th because their league history started in 1903, we had been in the league more than 10 years to that point where gates of 1,000 were common place and is all factored in to the accumulative average. From the time Spurs joined the league crowds of 30,000 and upwards were the norm. Pathetic mentioning that, but once again displaying deep gaps in your armchair garnered knowledge.

[Guest Stevie]

I move that another board is created for "Biggest Club debate" where people can argue abstract ideas of bigness and transcendental notions of self-importance as they relate to the club they support.

 

Or everyone involved could just admit it's important to them because they only have small tig wags and forget about it.

Can you explain to me why this scouse parafin got involved please.