South African Deal

[JawD 99]

I thought you'd have the links in your favourites.

 

Not sure why I would, I haven't been on there before all of this blew up if that's what you're getting at, something to do with Leazes going into a massive rant (you know the sort) because I told Shearergol that he preferred Ricardo Fuller when he suggested that he liked Jason Roberts.

 

That and the fact that Ant and Wacky were hardly posting which left me with Leazes Mag, NE5 and Stone Cold Stevie which are all the same person, so whats the point in starting threads to try and keep the place busy? Let it die.

I was joking man. It's obvious because of the way you've gone on since Ashley fucked the club up.

 

That's because I genuinely don't think Ashley has done much wrong apart from employing Keegan in the first place.

 

Really?

[Baggio 0]

I thought you'd have the links in your favourites.

 

Not sure why I would, I haven't been on there before all of this blew up if that's what you're getting at, something to do with Leazes going into a massive rant (you know the sort) because I told Shearergol that he preferred Ricardo Fuller when he suggested that he liked Jason Roberts.

 

That and the fact that Ant and Wacky were hardly posting which left me with Leazes Mag, NE5 and Stone Cold Stevie which are all the same person, so whats the point in starting threads to try and keep the place busy? Let it die.

I was joking man. It's obvious because of the way you've gone on since Ashley fucked the club up.

 

That's because I genuinely don't think Ashley has done much wrong apart from employing Keegan in the first place.

 

Cobblers. he's brought a right bunch of nobbers who mean nothing to the club and are just his mates. The recruitment procedure seems to have involved his and/or his cronies little black book.

 

Llabia man! FFS!

 

I don't really have a problem with him bringing in people that he trusts, I've never met Llambias but apart from his PR being shite I don't know how well he was doing his job to be able to comment.

 

Jimenez seems to have his head screwed on and getting £12 million for Milner is possibly the best business we've ever done, between him, Wisa and Vetere I think we've brought some very good players in even if we didn't get all of the players that we need, but when was the last time that happened?

[Guest alex]

Xisco looks fucking wank tbf.

[peasepud 59]

We're in a mess now which is because of a few things.

 

I think Keegan walking out hurt us but it wasn't the end of the World, we had the likes of Terim and Deschamps showing interest in the job and I think if we had brought one of those in then we could have put it all behind us and moved on quite quickly as West Ham were in a similar position and they moved on with little fuss, the difference between us and West Ham was the fans protests and calls for Ashley's head which has helped push us into the state of limbo where we're now, that and Ashley agreeing to go of course.

 

I don't really have anything against Ashley but it's gone beyond the point of where he can return now, so the sooner a takeover goes through and we get some stability the better, I just hope people are happy with what they get at the end of it.

 

You're serious arent you?

 

You really do believe that a ) The likes of Deschamps was sitting there thinking "hmmm I'll have me a bit of that" and b ) he then stopped thinking it because the fans protested against the board in a sign of unity with the manager.

 

 

[Guest alex]

Aye, and most top managers who've commented said they wouldn't work under those circumstances. Still, Ashley's blueprint is flawless though.

[Baggio 0]

Xisco looks fucking wank tbf.

 

We'll have to see how he does once he gets settled in, I can't say I remember seeing him before he came here apart from a few youtube clips of his goals but it can't be the best situation to come in to.

[Baggio 0]

We're in a mess now which is because of a few things.

 

I think Keegan walking out hurt us but it wasn't the end of the World, we had the likes of Terim and Deschamps showing interest in the job and I think if we had brought one of those in then we could have put it all behind us and moved on quite quickly as West Ham were in a similar position and they moved on with little fuss, the difference between us and West Ham was the fans protests and calls for Ashley's head which has helped push us into the state of limbo where we're now, that and Ashley agreeing to go of course.

 

I don't really have anything against Ashley but it's gone beyond the point of where he can return now, so the sooner a takeover goes through and we get some stability the better, I just hope people are happy with what they get at the end of it.

 

You're serious arent you?

 

You really do believe that a ) The likes of Deschamps was sitting there thinking "hmmm I'll have me a bit of that" and b ) he then stopped thinking it because the fans protested against the board in a sign of unity with the manager.

 

 

 

That's not what I was getting at, because of the protests and Ashley agreeing to go no manager will come here now with little job security, which means we're fucked until someone else either buys the club or Ashley takes it off the market.

[Guest alex]

I'd have to say the other 3 major signings look decent. Especially Jonas. Not sure Collocini is good enough in the air though and needs a big lad alongside him. I think Faye would have been alright alongside him in the short term at least but he supposedly wanted to move back to the NW. He should have been replaced though imo.

[Baggio 0]

Aye, and most top managers who've commented said they wouldn't work under those circumstances. Still, Ashley's blueprint is flawless though.

 

I'm sure if Wenger or Ferguson didn't want to work in a job under those circumstances then they wouldn't have taken the job in the first place.

[Guest alex]

Aye, and most top managers who've commented said they wouldn't work under those circumstances. Still, Ashley's blueprint is flawless though.

 

I'm sure if Wenger or Ferguson didn't want to work in a job under those circumstances then they wouldn't have taken the job in the first place.

The club has contradicted what Wise's role is over the course of the last few months so it's not beyond the realms of possibility Keegan was misled in the same way the fans were.

Edited October 7, 2008 by alex

[Baggio 0]

I'd have to say the other 3 major signings look decent. Especially Jonas. Not sure Collocini is good enough in the air though and needs a big lad alongside him. I think Faye would have been alright alongside him in the short term at least but he supposedly wanted to move back to the NW. He should have been replaced though imo.

 

Me and NJS had this conversation the other day.

 

You're right when you say he needs a big man next to him, I think Keegan was hoping that Taylor would make the step up to being the big man who comes out and wins all of the long balls the opposition play down field but it looks like that role is being left to Colo even though he's more of a Gallas/Carvalho type ball player, a lot of people thought Faye and Taylor were too similar last season and that we needed someone better on the ground who can bring the ball out from the back, we've got one of those now but nobody to play the big man role.

 

Keegan went for Senderos but I'm not sure how much faith I'd have in him, I'd prefer someone like Samba from Blackburn if we could get him but until then I'd give Bassong a run as he looks similar in size and athleticism to Distin.

[Baggio 0]

Aye, and most top managers who've commented said they wouldn't work under those circumstances. Still, Ashley's blueprint is flawless though.

 

I'm sure if Wenger or Ferguson didn't want to work in a job under those circumstances then they wouldn't have taken the job in the first place.

The club has contradicted what Wise's role is over the course of the last few months so it's not beyond the realms of possibility Keegan was misled in the same way the fans were.

 

Yet the press has known all along what Wise's role was and that Keegan wasn't that happy about the situation, even though he denied it at the time and then left because of it. Surely that wasn't a guess?

 

I think he had a big say in players coming in which is why he was spotted watching St Etienne with Vetere, something has happened behind the scenes which is why Wise brought some players in without his say near the end of the window, I'm not sure why that was so it will be interesting if it does go to a tribunal to see what comes out.

 

Shame someone couldn't bang their heads together because up until then I was reasonably happy and thought we could have had a good season this year, even if we didn't fill all of the positions I would have liked.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

That's because I genuinely don't think Ashley has done much wrong apart from employing Keegan in the first place.

That sums up why I completely disregard anything you post.

[Big TRon 0]

Baggio's more devastated Leazes was right than he is bothered about the mess the club is in man. That's what this is all about.

 

Leazes usually takes up such a position it's hard for him to be wrong tbh. It's easy to say X amount of money should be spent by the owner, but until somebody buys the club and puts his money where his mouth is, it's hard to say how it should be done. I'm fairly sure Fat Fred, Leazes superhero took a lot more out of the club than he put in.

[Baggio 0]

That's because I genuinely don't think Ashley has done much wrong apart from employing Keegan in the first place.

That sums up why I completely disregard anything you post.

 

I don't even know who you are lad so I won't lose much sleep over it.

[peasepud 59]

Aye, and most top managers who've commented said they wouldn't work under those circumstances. Still, Ashley's blueprint is flawless though.

 

I'm sure if Wenger or Ferguson didn't want to work in a job under those circumstances then they wouldn't have taken the job in the first place.

The club has contradicted what Wise's role is over the course of the last few months so it's not beyond the realms of possibility Keegan was misled in the same way the fans were.

 

Yet the press has known all along what Wise's role was and that Keegan wasn't that happy about the situation, even though he denied it at the time and then left because of it. Surely that wasn't a guess?

 

Yet, the NUFC Press machine didnt seem to, interview after interview stating the complete opposite.

[LeazesMag 0]

And people were wanking over Mike Ashley taking over just because he appointed a DOF.

 

[LeazesMag 0]

Baggio's more devastated Leazes was right than he is bothered about the mess the club is in man. That's what this is all about.

 

exactly.

 

A DOF brings guaranteed success you know

[Guest alex]

Aye, and most top managers who've commented said they wouldn't work under those circumstances. Still, Ashley's blueprint is flawless though.

 

I'm sure if Wenger or Ferguson didn't want to work in a job under those circumstances then they wouldn't have taken the job in the first place.

The club has contradicted what Wise's role is over the course of the last few months so it's not beyond the realms of possibility Keegan was misled in the same way the fans were.

 

Yet the press has known all along what Wise's role was and that Keegan wasn't that happy about the situation, even though he denied it at the time and then left because of it. Surely that wasn't a guess?

 

I think he had a big say in players coming in which is why he was spotted watching St Etienne with Vetere, something has happened behind the scenes which is why Wise brought some players in without his say near the end of the window, I'm not sure why that was so it will be interesting if it does go to a tribunal to see what comes out.

 

Shame someone couldn't bang their heads together because up until then I was reasonably happy and thought we could have had a good season this year, even if we didn't fill all of the positions I would have liked.

I think you're misrepresenting it there. If there was a problem from day one, why did the club feel the need to lie about Wise's role to the fans? It also suggests appointing Wise was a mistake too if he couldn't work with KK / vice-versa.

I think it's quite possible the role of Wise changed over the period he was at the club, I use 'was' seeing as he's only there in name now. And if what you're saying is true, Wise took it upon himself to bring players in at the last minute which is something I can see any manager worth his salt having a problem with.

Edited October 7, 2008 by alex

[Guest alex]

Baggio's more devastated Leazes was right than he is bothered about the mess the club is in man. That's what this is all about.

 

exactly.

 

A DOF brings guaranteed success you know

Worked for Spurs.

[LeazesMag 0]

I thought you'd have the links in your favourites.

 

Not sure why I would, I haven't been on there before all of this blew up if that's what you're getting at, something to do with Leazes going into a massive rant (you know the sort) because I told Shearergol that he preferred Ricardo Fuller when he suggested that he liked Jason Roberts.

 

That and the fact that Ant and Wacky were hardly posting which left me with Leazes Mag, NE5 and Stone Cold Stevie which are all the same person, so whats the point in starting threads to try and keep the place busy? Let it die.

 

haha, makes me laugh this like.

 

I've told baggy before that I am not Stone Cold Stevie. Its pretty obvious, as obvious as him calling himself shitheadMatthew or something ?

 

I also said that if the club was strapped for cash/decided to go in among the lower priced signings/wanted a short term player while looking for the real deal then those 2 guys would do a lot better for us than the players we had ie Viduka and Ameobi specifically. As usual he bends comments. Don't quite know where he gets "rant" from ...

 

I proved him a liar last week when he said that I "couldn't wait to sell my shares to Ashley". Until I raked among my own posts [shame he didn't do it himself for a change] and found 2 posts where I said that "I didn't want to sell them and would rather keep them but if it was for the best then OK although it isn't as if I had any choice in the matter". He didn't respond to this post.

 

As for howaythetoon. Well, myself and wacky have never denied we would like more posters. Whats a good message board, what would we like ? A smattering of good posters from here and NO, with some of the skunkers type of friendly abuse disregard for PC bollocks would do for starters. We actually made baggy a mod for a while, but he himself failed to get posters onto the board, ironically he is slagging us for at least having a go, unlike himself when he told me he was himself looking to set up a website ? Where is it Baggy lad ? Did you decide it was too much for you, so you slate others instead ?

 

Thats it for the moment, I'm reading down the thread. You knew I'd reply, but unlike NO when I could get banned I'll tell you that you're a fucking tosspot and fuck off.

Edited October 7, 2008 by LeazesMag

[LeazesMag 0]

Baggio's more devastated Leazes was right than he is bothered about the mess the club is in man. That's what this is all about.

 

exactly.

 

A DOF brings guaranteed success you know

Worked for Spurs.

 

it worked a treat, Ramos won the league cup, and so according to Baggy, that makes him more qualified to manage in the premiership than Keegan.

 

He'll be telling us that Bobby Gould and Joe Royle are too by that criteria.

 

[LeazesMag 0]

I thought you'd have the links in your favourites.

 

Not sure why I would, I haven't been on there before all of this blew up if that's what you're getting at, something to do with Leazes going into a massive rant (you know the sort) because I told Shearergol that he preferred Ricardo Fuller when he suggested that he liked Jason Roberts.

 

That and the fact that Ant and Wacky were hardly posting which left me with Leazes Mag, NE5 and Stone Cold Stevie which are all the same person, so whats the point in starting threads to try and keep the place busy? Let it die.

I was joking man. It's obvious because of the way you've gone on since Ashley fucked the club up.

 

That's because I genuinely don't think Ashley has done much wrong apart from employing Keegan in the first place.

 

apart from being in the biggest shit for about 20 years.

[LeazesMag 0]

Aye, and most top managers who've commented said they wouldn't work under those circumstances. Still, Ashley's blueprint is flawless though.

 

aye, Ferguson and Wenger obviously don't realise they would be much better off if they had a DOF to answer to

[LeazesMag 0]

Baggio's more devastated Leazes was right than he is bothered about the mess the club is in man. That's what this is all about.

 

Leazes usually takes up such a position it's hard for him to be wrong tbh. It's easy to say X amount of money should be spent by the owner, but until somebody buys the club and puts his money where his mouth is, it's hard to say how it should be done. I'm fairly sure Fat Fred, Leazes superhero took a lot more out of the club than he put in.

 

sometimes you make decent comments, but just lately this sort of shite has let you down.