sammynb 3640 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 To be honest if people are put off joining because it costs a tenner, then there heart can't be that in it. As Tom says, it's the cost of a few pints, or a couple of packs of cigarettes or whatever. I hardly think a ten pound contribution can be a genuine disincentive to someone who really wants their voice to be heard. Shame on you David... First bored, now this. It appears the wordsmith has lost his dic tionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6701 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 For the record, it's disappointing to read some people questioning the payment of £10 a year to join a supporters club which is championing what 99% of the people on here have been shouting about over the last month. The same people, some of which have spent exponentionally higher amounts on season tickets - literally lining Mr Ashley's pockets. And those who haven't have no doubt posted something in the 'Materialism' thread which has cost them a damned sight more - how much have you paid for porn storage Laz? At the end of the day, the membership is a choice - it's not mandatory. And if you think it's too much then simply don't pay it. FWIW I think it's a small price to pay to attempt to get my club back on the rails. My tenner is here waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Brannigan 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Got my tenner ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 when I say it, theres no cash on mantlepiece I dont have a mantlepiece these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 To be honest if people are put off joining because it costs a tenner, then there heart can't be that in it. As Tom says, it's the cost of a few pints, or a couple of packs of cigarettes or whatever. I hardly think a ten pound contribution can be a genuine disincentive to someone who really wants their voice to be heard. Shame on you David... First bored, now this. It appears the wordsmith has lost his dic tionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 For the record, it's disappointing to read some people questioning the payment of £10 a year to join a supporters club which is championing what 99% of the people on here have been shouting about over the last month. The same people, some of which have spent exponentionally higher amounts on season tickets - literally lining Mr Ashley's pockets. And those who haven't have no doubt posted something in the 'Materialism' thread which has cost them a damned sight more - how much have you paid for porn storage Laz? At the end of the day, the membership is a choice - it's not mandatory. And if you think it's too much then simply don't pay it. FWIW I think it's a small price to pay to attempt to get my club back on the rails. My tenner is here waiting A tenner is a different amount of money depending on what you're getting.... if someone tried to charge you a tenner for a pint, you'd tell them to get stuffed. If on the other hand you pick up an ipod for a tenner you'd think you'd got a bargain. All people like myself wanted to know is what ultimately the money would be used for and if it would be accounted for. You may know the people involved in setting up the club but many won't. People are rightly cautious about their money in these times even if it's a good cause in theory. That shouldn't offened anyone, it's not personal, just common sense. As long as reassuring noises are made (as they have been) people will feel more confident about stumping up the money. I've got my tenner here waiting too as many of my concerns have been addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 For the record, it's disappointing to read some people questioning the payment of £10 a year to join a supporters club which is championing what 99% of the people on here have been shouting about over the last month. The same people, some of which have spent exponentionally higher amounts on season tickets - literally lining Mr Ashley's pockets. And those who haven't have no doubt posted something in the 'Materialism' thread which has cost them a damned sight more - how much have you paid for porn storage Laz? At the end of the day, the membership is a choice - it's not mandatory. And if you think it's too much then simply don't pay it. FWIW I think it's a small price to pay to attempt to get my club back on the rails. My tenner is here waiting Indeed it is - i just want to make an informed choice. Thats not so outrageous is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 For the record, it's disappointing to read some people questioning the payment of £10 a year to join a supporters club which is championing what 99% of the people on here have been shouting about over the last month. The same people, some of which have spent exponentionally higher amounts on season tickets - literally lining Mr Ashley's pockets. And those who haven't have no doubt posted something in the 'Materialism' thread which has cost them a damned sight more - how much have you paid for porn storage Laz? At the end of the day, the membership is a choice - it's not mandatory. And if you think it's too much then simply don't pay it. FWIW I think it's a small price to pay to attempt to get my club back on the rails. My tenner is here waiting Indeed it is - i just want to make an informed choice. Thats not so outrageous is it? Not at all, as I've said before I fully understand. My post in reply to yours earlier though questioned what you would need to be confident? Do you have any thoughts on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6701 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 It's all relative as to how important the running of the club is to you IMO. Not paying the tenner doesn't make you any less of a fan in the same way that not buying a season ticket doesn't either. Everyone's financial situation is diffferent but I don't think a tenner over a 12 month period is a bad outlay if it will improve the running of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 This is not a list of demands or anything - just a few thoughts and ideas first of all - have you guys heard of supporters direct? http://www.supporters-direct.org/publications/ - some of the info there could be relevant. the club has to be 'not for profit' and independantly audited. will the club be audited by an outside firm independant of the board members? what about having an honoury president? maybe a former player with strong ties to the northeast (for example peter beardsley rather than asprilla). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 This is not a list of demands or anything - just a few thoughts and ideas first of all - have you guys heard of supporters direct? http://www.supporters-direct.org/publications/ - some of the info there could be relevant. the club has to be 'not for profit' and independantly audited. will the club be audited by an outside firm independant of the board members? what about having an honoury president? maybe a former player with strong ties to the northeast (for example peter beardsley rather than asprilla). 1. Yes, one of the committee is looking into the pro's and cons, my understanding of it though is that SD is for the setting up of trusts ie with a view to purchasing at least a slice of the club. Thats not something thats currently on the agenda for us, its always a possibility but I think SD insist on it being the aim of your association if you want to be part of them. More will be known next week however. 2. It is 'not for profit' and as I said in an earlier post all relevant auditing etc will be carried out, I couldnt honestly say who will be doing those audits as I dont think theyve been looked at yet. But it will all be done and done properly. 3. Im not sure on the honourary president but, we are arranging honourary memberships though. Just to confirm though are you saying you'd trust it more if we 'installed some ex player as a pretend boss'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 This is not a list of demands or anything - just a few thoughts and ideas first of all - have you guys heard of supporters direct? http://www.supporters-direct.org/publications/ - some of the info there could be relevant. the club has to be 'not for profit' and independantly audited. will the club be audited by an outside firm independant of the board members? what about having an honoury president? maybe a former player with strong ties to the northeast (for example peter beardsley rather than asprilla). 1. Yes, one of the committee is looking into the pro's and cons, my understanding of it though is that SD is for the setting up of trusts ie with a view to purchasing at least a slice of the club. Thats not something thats currently on the agenda for us, its always a possibility but I think SD insist on it being the aim of your association if you want to be part of them. More will be known next week however. 2. It is 'not for profit' and as I said in an earlier post all relevant auditing etc will be carried out, I couldnt honestly say who will be doing those audits as I dont think theyve been looked at yet. But it will all be done and done properly. 3. Im not sure on the honourary president but, we are arranging honourary memberships though. Just to confirm though are you saying you'd trust it more if we 'installed some ex player as a pretend boss'? I personally would prefer there NOT to be any ex player involved. They have loyalties and other interests which could affect impartiality IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 How about sticking the details of how to pay in your sig or something Pud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 How about sticking the details of how to pay in your sig or something Pud? Aye canny idea, (if I ever manage to get this payment thingy installed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 How about sticking the details of how to pay in your sig or something Pud? Aye canny idea, (if I ever manage to get this payment thingy installed) Lettuce know when you do. I'm happy to pay but I'm also very lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 This is not a list of demands or anything - just a few thoughts and ideas first of all - have you guys heard of supporters direct? http://www.supporters-direct.org/publications/ - some of the info there could be relevant. the club has to be 'not for profit' and independantly audited. will the club be audited by an outside firm independant of the board members? what about having an honoury president? maybe a former player with strong ties to the northeast (for example peter beardsley rather than asprilla). 1. Yes, one of the committee is looking into the pro's and cons, my understanding of it though is that SD is for the setting up of trusts ie with a view to purchasing at least a slice of the club. Thats not something thats currently on the agenda for us, its always a possibility but I think SD insist on it being the aim of your association if you want to be part of them. More will be known next week however. 2. It is 'not for profit' and as I said in an earlier post all relevant auditing etc will be carried out, I couldnt honestly say who will be doing those audits as I dont think theyve been looked at yet. But it will all be done and done properly. 3. Im not sure on the honourary president but, we are arranging honourary memberships though. Just to confirm though are you saying you'd trust it more if we 'installed some ex player as a pretend boss'? no - i just though it might be a good idea in general. doesnt have to be an ex player - i just thought a supporters club with an honourary president might sound a bit more 'official' (for want of a better word) and might have a bit more weight behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7095 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 This is not a list of demands or anything - just a few thoughts and ideas first of all - have you guys heard of supporters direct? http://www.supporters-direct.org/publications/ - some of the info there could be relevant. the club has to be 'not for profit' and independantly audited. will the club be audited by an outside firm independant of the board members? what about having an honoury president? maybe a former player with strong ties to the northeast (for example peter beardsley rather than asprilla). 1. Yes, one of the committee is looking into the pro's and cons, my understanding of it though is that SD is for the setting up of trusts ie with a view to purchasing at least a slice of the club. Thats not something thats currently on the agenda for us, its always a possibility but I think SD insist on it being the aim of your association if you want to be part of them. More will be known next week however. 2. It is 'not for profit' and as I said in an earlier post all relevant auditing etc will be carried out, I couldnt honestly say who will be doing those audits as I dont think theyve been looked at yet. But it will all be done and done properly. 3. Im not sure on the honourary president but, we are arranging honourary memberships though. Just to confirm though are you saying you'd trust it more if we 'installed some ex player as a pretend boss'? no - i just though it might be a good idea in general. doesnt have to be an ex player - i just thought a supporters club with an honourary president might sound a bit more 'official' (for want of a better word) and might have a bit more weight behind it. This could give Gazza a reason to live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mal shiels 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Hello all, thanks for the welcome to the site, great comments back from you all, we'll do our utmost to be in a position soon that wiil convince everyone that the NUSC is and always will be a properly run non profit supporters club for the fans of Newcastle United. We intend to have a further press release immeninently, then we are meeting again early next week to move further forward. Great point on Sunday for the lads, lets hope its a bit of a turning point, , i couldnt go as im plastered up with a broken ankle at the mo (thats what i get for being a 47 year old trying to play five a side with the young uns!!). Still i'll be hobbling along to help chair our next meeting. Thanks for the support so far, keep the debate up and any ideas or thoughts are welcome, all will be taken on baord and discussed. Cheers all, Mal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Are you going to set up a forum for members to put their views across? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Are you going to set up a forum for members to put their views across? We'll be setting up ways for members to put their views forward yes, whether the best way to do that is a forum is to be seen. Personally I dont think so but thats a personal view. To me its a series of simple straight forward "yes/no" or "How (on a scale of 1 - 10) etc" type questions with a facility to add comment that would be best suited. Otherwise, as we see here it ends up going off track and more importantly makes it difficult to exactly gauge the feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Are you going to set up a forum for members to put their views across? We'll be setting up ways for members to put their views forward yes, whether the best way to do that is a forum is to be seen. Personally I dont think so but thats a personal view. To me its a series of simple straight forward "yes/no" or "How (on a scale of 1 - 10) etc" type questions with a facility to add comment that would be best suited. Otherwise, as we see here it ends up going off track and more importantly makes it difficult to exactly gauge the feeling. A forum would be a terrible idea. It would be guarenteed to be taken over by contrarian bullshit artists trying to promote their own agenda. "Fans on their own website said" yadda yadda yadda. It is the opposite of what you shpould be trying to acheive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22535 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Are you going to set up a forum for members to put their views across? We'll be setting up ways for members to put their views forward yes, whether the best way to do that is a forum is to be seen. Personally I dont think so but thats a personal view. To me its a series of simple straight forward "yes/no" or "How (on a scale of 1 - 10) etc" type questions with a facility to add comment that would be best suited. Otherwise, as we see here it ends up going off track and more importantly makes it difficult to exactly gauge the feeling. A forum would be a terrible idea. It would be guarenteed to be taken over by contrarian bullshit artists trying to promote their own agenda. "Fans on their own website said" yadda yadda yadda. It is the opposite of what you shpould be trying to acheive no it isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 ANYONE QUESTIONING THE TENNER IS ALREADY ON THE TO BE SHOT LIST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 (edited) Are you going to set up a forum for members to put their views across? NO. Baggio I spit on yer tenner. Just FUCK OFF. Edited October 7, 2008 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Are you going to set up a forum for members to put their views across? We'll be setting up ways for members to put their views forward yes, whether the best way to do that is a forum is to be seen. Personally I dont think so but thats a personal view. To me its a series of simple straight forward "yes/no" or "How (on a scale of 1 - 10) etc" type questions with a facility to add comment that would be best suited. Otherwise, as we see here it ends up going off track and more importantly makes it difficult to exactly gauge the feeling. Ser5iously pud make it 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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