Douggy B 0 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 You have half a team of new players and no strikers for them to feed. Surely even you can see the problem there chief. The question is then, why did Ramos, Commoli and Levy not see it? I am sure they did. Given the choice I am sure they would have kept the two players or got in decent replacements. Levy haggling over a couple of mil for Arshavin has shot us in the foot and the unfortunate timing of defoes departure. Defoe left in January, Keane left at the start of July and the Berbatov transfer was hardly a shock. Spurs had loads of time to find replacements yet didn't, if anyone is to blame for you having no strikers then it's the three men mentioned above. Defoe had to be sold because he refused to sign a new contract. At that time we had the most successful strike partnership in the country so he couldnt break inot the team. We had an adequate 3rd striker in Bent so there was no issue. Keane was completely out of the blue and I believe Pav was supposed to be Berbas replacement. There was no way we couyld hang onto these players as after they got tapped up they became disruptive and had to be sold. We should have bought Arshavin, Pav and Militio with the money to give us a good mix of forwards. Instead we are left with two big men in Pav and Bent and a young loanee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 You have half a team of new players and no strikers for them to feed. Surely even you can see the problem there chief. The question is then, why did Ramos, Commoli and Levy not see it? I am sure they did. Given the choice I am sure they would have kept the two players or got in decent replacements. Levy haggling over a couple of mil for Arshavin has shot us in the foot and the unfortunate timing of defoes departure. Defoe left in January, Keane left at the start of July and the Berbatov transfer was hardly a shock. Spurs had loads of time to find replacements yet didn't, if anyone is to blame for you having no strikers then it's the three men mentioned above. Defoe had to be sold because he refused to sign a new contract. At that time we had the most successful strike partnership in the country so he couldnt break inot the team. We had an adequate 3rd striker in Bent so there was no issue. Keane was completely out of the blue and I believe Pav was supposed to be Berbas replacement. There was no way we couyld hang onto these players as after they got tapped up they became disruptive and had to be sold. We should have bought Arshavin, Pav and Militio with the money to give us a good mix of forwards. Instead we are left with two big men in Pav and Bent and a young loanee. That's what ewerk just said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Sunderland are ran by a consortium and they have spent over £70m in the last 18 months(albeit on shite). Do you think 70 mil will break the top four strangle hold? 100m? 200m? With City in the mixer 500m? My point is, if you want to stay in the prem fine, if you want CL...you need MEGA BUCKS Saying that you have spent £70m and probably have a squad valuing at £150m spent and you are bottom. So fuck knows. Net spend minus 10mil. I thought you lot didnt believe the rubbish you read in the red tops. the net spend doesn't really matter does it? It's the fact you have £70m worth of new players and you would expect these to perform under a ''tactical genius'' like ramos. Not if you sell your two only decent forwards to finance it. You have half a team of new players and no strikers for them to feed. Surely even you can see the problem there chief. To be honest you can't pull that one on me. Pavlyachenko was £14m, Bent was £16m and Giovanni was £12m. That's a £42m strike force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douggy B 0 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 And I told him we had relacements in Bent and Pav. Its selling Keane that killed us....no continuity. Come on lads, its not hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douggy B 0 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) Sunderland are ran by a consortium and they have spent over £70m in the last 18 months(albeit on shite). Do you think 70 mil will break the top four strangle hold? 100m? 200m? With City in the mixer 500m? My point is, if you want to stay in the prem fine, if you want CL...you need MEGA BUCKS Saying that you have spent £70m and probably have a squad valuing at £150m spent and you are bottom. So fuck knows. Net spend minus 10mil. I thought you lot didnt believe the rubbish you read in the red tops. the net spend doesn't really matter does it? It's the fact you have £70m worth of new players and you would expect these to perform under a ''tactical genius'' like ramos. Not if you sell your two only decent forwards to finance it. You have half a team of new players and no strikers for them to feed. Surely even you can see the problem there chief. To be honest you can't pull that one on me. Pavlyachenko was £14m, Bent was £16m and Giovanni was £12m. That's a £42m strike force. GDS isnt a striker, Pav has played a season already, Bent has three so far, so hes not doing too bad Edited September 30, 2008 by Danny B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30167 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 You have half a team of new players and no strikers for them to feed. Surely even you can see the problem there chief. The question is then, why did Ramos, Commoli and Levy not see it? I am sure they did. Given the choice I am sure they would have kept the two players or got in decent replacements. Levy haggling over a couple of mil for Arshavin has shot us in the foot and the unfortunate timing of defoes departure. Defoe left in January, Keane left at the start of July and the Berbatov transfer was hardly a shock. Spurs had loads of time to find replacements yet didn't, if anyone is to blame for you having no strikers then it's the three men mentioned above. Defoe had to be sold because he refused to sign a new contract. At that time we had the most successful strike partnership in the country so he couldnt break inot the team. We had an adequate 3rd striker in Bent so there was no issue. Keane was completely out of the blue and I believe Pav was supposed to be Berbas replacement. There was no way we couyld hang onto these players as after they got tapped up they became disruptive and had to be sold. We should have bought Arshavin, Pav and Militio with the money to give us a good mix of forwards. Instead we are left with two big men in Pav and Bent and a young loanee. That's what ewerk just said. Pretty much aye. Danny, I'll put this very simply, who at your club do you blame for not replacing the strikers sold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 And I told him we had relacements in Bent and Pav. Its selling Keane that killed us....no continuity. Come on lads, its not hard. Aye and you had two months to get a replacement. Although I'm sure you were down playing Keane's importance when he left. Mind, I also seem to recall 'your man' telling you Arshavin was in the bag so you probably weren't too worried given he's never wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Sunderland are ran by a consortium and they have spent over £70m in the last 18 months(albeit on shite). Do you think 70 mil will break the top four strangle hold? 100m? 200m? With City in the mixer 500m? My point is, if you want to stay in the prem fine, if you want CL...you need MEGA BUCKS Saying that you have spent £70m and probably have a squad valuing at £150m spent and you are bottom. So fuck knows. Net spend minus 10mil. I thought you lot didnt believe the rubbish you read in the red tops. the net spend doesn't really matter does it? It's the fact you have £70m worth of new players and you would expect these to perform under a ''tactical genius'' like ramos. Not if you sell your two only decent forwards to finance it. You have half a team of new players and no strikers for them to feed. Surely even you can see the problem there chief. To be honest you can't pull that one on me. Pavlyachenko was £14m, Bent was £16m and Giovanni was £12m. That's a £42m strike force. GDS isnt a striker, Pav has played a season already, Bent has three so far, so hes not doing too bad GDS looked enough of a striker when he scored that Hat trick for Barcelona.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douggy B 0 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 You have half a team of new players and no strikers for them to feed. Surely even you can see the problem there chief. The question is then, why did Ramos, Commoli and Levy not see it? I am sure they did. Given the choice I am sure they would have kept the two players or got in decent replacements. Levy haggling over a couple of mil for Arshavin has shot us in the foot and the unfortunate timing of defoes departure. Defoe left in January, Keane left at the start of July and the Berbatov transfer was hardly a shock. Spurs had loads of time to find replacements yet didn't, if anyone is to blame for you having no strikers then it's the three men mentioned above. Defoe had to be sold because he refused to sign a new contract. At that time we had the most successful strike partnership in the country so he couldnt break inot the team. We had an adequate 3rd striker in Bent so there was no issue. Keane was completely out of the blue and I believe Pav was supposed to be Berbas replacement. There was no way we couyld hang onto these players as after they got tapped up they became disruptive and had to be sold. We should have bought Arshavin, Pav and Militio with the money to give us a good mix of forwards. Instead we are left with two big men in Pav and Bent and a young loanee. That's what ewerk just said. Pretty much aye. Danny, I'll put this very simply, who at your club do you blame for not replacing the strikers sold? Levy, the players we wanted had been scouted and identified. Levy decided to quibble over a couple of mil and we wind up with Frazer Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Bit harsh on the young lad, I mean have any of Spurs' new signings not looked shit so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7066 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 change the name of this site to spudtastic tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douggy B 0 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 GDS looked enough of a striker when he scored that Hat trick for Barcelona.... Hes a winger mate, SWP scored a brace for City the other day, would you call him a striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douggy B 0 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Bit harsh on the young lad, I mean have any of Spurs' new signings not looked shit so far? Corluka's looked OK, bar one mistake the keepers been fantastic, GDS / Modric have looked bright in spells. Bentley and Pav have been decidedly average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 GDS looked enough of a striker when he scored that Hat trick for Barcelona.... Hes a winger mate, SWP scored a brace for City the other day, would you call him a striker? Either way you can't complain you don't have enough strikers - at the end of the day you sold players that were too good for you, Berbatov and Keane simply went the same way as Carrick. Pav,Campell and Bent will have to do - the money was there and it's Tottenham's own fault if they are lacking. The same way our three tier management system is to blame for the lack of a left back and the small squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douggy B 0 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 GDS looked enough of a striker when he scored that Hat trick for Barcelona.... Hes a winger mate, SWP scored a brace for City the other day, would you call him a striker? Either way you can't complain you don't have enough strikers - at the end of the day you sold players that were too good for you, Berbatov and Keane simply went the same way as Carrick. Pav,Campell and Bent will have to do - the money was there and it's Tottenham's own fault if they are lacking. The same way our three tier management system is to blame for the lack of a left back and the small squad. Its a good job that you havent got anybody the top four are interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30167 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Levy, the players we wanted had been scouted and identified. Levy decided to quibble over a couple of mil and we wind up with Frazer Campbell. Now that wasn't so hard was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) GDS looked enough of a striker when he scored that Hat trick for Barcelona.... Hes a winger mate, SWP scored a brace for City the other day, would you call him a striker? Either way you can't complain you don't have enough strikers - at the end of the day you sold players that were too good for you, Berbatov and Keane simply went the same way as Carrick. Pav,Campell and Bent will have to do - the money was there and it's Tottenham's own fault if they are lacking. The same way our three tier management system is to blame for the lack of a left back and the small squad. Its a good job that you havent got anybody the top four are interested in. Fair dos. We are both in the same boat now. Edited September 30, 2008 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 GDS looked enough of a striker when he scored that Hat trick for Barcelona.... Hes a winger mate, SWP scored a brace for City the other day, would you call him a striker? Either way you can't complain you don't have enough strikers - at the end of the day you sold players that were too good for you, Berbatov and Keane simply went the same way as Carrick. Pav,Campell and Bent will have to do - the money was there and it's Tottenham's own fault if they are lacking. The same way our three tier management system is to blame for the lack of a left back and the small squad. Its a good job that you havent got anybody the top four are interested in. Arsenal were sniffing round Martins and Manchester United were going to go for Owen if they didn't get Berbatov. Other than that it is a good job. Because if they were interested we wouldn't have any bugger left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 You forgot about Arsenal and Livepool being after Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Sunderland are ran by a consortium and they have spent over £70m in the last 18 months(albeit on shite). Do you think 70 mil will break the top four strangle hold? 100m? 200m? With City in the mixer 500m? My point is, if you want to stay in the prem fine, if you want CL...you need MEGA BUCKS Saying that you have spent £70m and probably have a squad valuing at £150m spent and you are bottom. So fuck knows. Net spend minus 10mil. I thought you lot didnt believe the rubbish you read in the red tops. the net spend doesn't really matter does it? It's the fact you have £70m worth of new players and you would expect these to perform under a ''tactical genius'' like ramos. Not if you sell your two only decent forwards to finance it. You have half a team of new players and no strikers for them to feed. Surely even you can see the problem there chief. To be honest you can't pull that one on me. Pavlyachenko was £14m, Bent was £16m and Giovanni was £12m. That's a £42m strike force. GDS isnt a striker, Pav has played a season already, Bent has three so far, so hes not doing too bad GDS looked enough of a striker when he scored that Hat trick for Barcelona.... Aye. Like Steve Watson did that time he scored a hat-trick for Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 GDS looked enough of a striker when he scored that Hat trick for Barcelona.... Hes a winger mate, SWP scored a brace for City the other day, would you call him a striker? Either way you can't complain you don't have enough strikers - at the end of the day you sold players that were too good for you, Berbatov and Keane simply went the same way as Carrick. Pav,Campell and Bent will have to do - the money was there and it's Tottenham's own fault if they are lacking. The same way our three tier management system is to blame for the lack of a left back and the small squad. Its a good job that you havent got anybody the top four are interested in. We're not Tottenham mate. In the Premiership era we have been a better side than Tottenham, had better players etc.. that much can not be doubted. How many have the big four managed to poach?? Two, and one of them was the clubs decision in Andy Cole. Hamann left because he felt he could win trophies quicker and he was right. This big four thing, we were part of the big four...recent history shows when the bigger clubs come calling you can not hold on to your players, and that's an undeniable fact...Campbell, Carr, Klinsmann, Berba, Keane, Carrick...the list is pretty much endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douggy B 0 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 You forgot about Arsenal and Livepool being after Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douggy B 0 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 We're not Tottenham mate. In the Premiership era we have been a better side than Tottenham, had better players etc.. that much can not be doubted. How many have the big four managed to poach?? Two, and one of them was the clubs decision in Andy Cole. Hamann left because he felt he could win trophies quicker and he was right. This big four thing, we were part of the big four...recent history shows when the bigger clubs come calling you can not hold on to your players, and that's an undeniable fact...Campbell, Carr, Klinsmann, Berba, Keane, Carrick...the list is pretty much endless. Gazza, Ginola, Les Ferdinand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 We're not Tottenham mate. In the Premiership era we have been a better side than Tottenham, had better players etc.. that much can not be doubted. How many have the big four managed to poach?? Two, and one of them was the clubs decision in Andy Cole. Hamann left because he felt he could win trophies quicker and he was right. This big four thing, we were part of the big four...recent history shows when the bigger clubs come calling you can not hold on to your players, and that's an undeniable fact...Campbell, Carr, Klinsmann, Berba, Keane, Carrick...the list is pretty much endless. Gazza, Ginola, Les Ferdinand.... While I agree you're right about it being lucky we've got no one the top four is particularly interested in, if you're trying to say we sold off the last two against our wishes to a bigger club (at the time) it shows how clueless you really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 We're not Tottenham mate. In the Premiership era we have been a better side than Tottenham, had better players etc.. that much can not be doubted. How many have the big four managed to poach?? Two, and one of them was the clubs decision in Andy Cole. Hamann left because he felt he could win trophies quicker and he was right. This big four thing, we were part of the big four...recent history shows when the bigger clubs come calling you can not hold on to your players, and that's an undeniable fact...Campbell, Carr, Klinsmann, Berba, Keane, Carrick...the list is pretty much endless. Gazza, Ginola, Les Ferdinand.... When did Gazza play for Newcastle or Tottenham in the Premiership era you mug. Ginola left because of private reasons for an inifinitely smaller club, and Ferdinand saaid it was the worst day of his life when he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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