Guest alex Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Back to who is world class - Pavel Nedved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 World class to me is a player that can get into any team in the world without a problem. The likes of Ronaldinho. Gary Neville isn't world class, he's a very good player but not world class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 World class to me is a player that can get into any team in the world without a problem. The likes of Ronaldinho. Gary Neville isn't world class, he's a very good player but not world class. 44843[/snapback] What if that team already has a world class player in the same position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 thierry henry is NOT world class FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Hog 518 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 thierry henry is NOT world class FACT. 44869[/snapback] That's a popular pub discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 thierry henry is NOT world class FACT. 44869[/snapback] That's a popular pub discussion. 44873[/snapback] i mean - whats he done for his country ? answer = almost as much as peter crouch ! FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 thierry henry is NOT world class FACT. 44869[/snapback] That's a popular pub discussion. 44873[/snapback] i mean - whats he done for his country ? answer = almost as much as peter crouch ! FACT 44902[/snapback] He finished as his country's leading scorer as they won the World Cup. Further success followed at EURO 2000, where he was again his country's top scorer with three strikes. Thats FACT and is a hell of a lot more than Peter Crouch has done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Henry....the ultimate choker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 thierry henry is NOT world class FACT. 44869[/snapback] That's a popular pub discussion. 44873[/snapback] i mean - whats he done for his country ? answer = almost as much as peter crouch ! FACT 44902[/snapback] He finished as his country's leading scorer as they won the World Cup. Further success followed at EURO 2000, where he was again his country's top scorer with three strikes. Thats FACT and is a hell of a lot more than Peter Crouch has done? 44904[/snapback] er - i think you'll find henry made a grand total of ZERO appearences for his country during the 98 world cup. guivarch (sp?) was regularly brought on as sub. his overall record at international level is quite good i'll admit - 30 goals from 73 appearences. i just dont think he's as good a player when he's playing in blue shirt. has henry single hadedly dragged his country through a competition ? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 er - i think you'll find henry made a grand total of ZERO appearences for his country during the 98 world cup. guivarch (sp?) was regularly brought on as sub. his overall record at international level is quite good i'll admit - 30 goals from 73 appearences. i just dont think he's as good a player when he's playing in blue shirt. has henry single hadedly dragged his country through a competition ? no 44910[/snapback] You're right, he's a lousy player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 er - i think you'll find henry made a grand total of ZERO appearences for his country during the 98 world cup. guivarch (sp?) was regularly brought on as sub. 44910[/snapback] 12.06.98 (20.00) Marseilles, Stade Vélodrome FRA - SAF 3:0 FRA: Barthéz - Lizarazu, Blanc ©, Deschamps, Desailly - Djorkaeff (82 Trézeguet), Guivarc'h (26 Dugarry), Thuram, Zidane - Henry, Petit (72 Boghossian) SAF: Vonk - Nyathi, Jackson, Issa, Radebe © - Fortune, Moshoeu, Fish, Augustine (56 Mkhalele) - McCarthy (89 Bartlett), Masinga 1:0 Dugarry 34 h, 2:0 Issa 77 o, 3:0 Henry 90+ 18.06.98 (20.00) St.Denis, Stade de France FRA - ARS 4:0 FRA: Barthéz - Thuram, Blanc, Desailly, Lizarazu - Boghossian, Deschamps ©, Henry (77 Pires), Dioméde (58 Djorkaeff) - Zidane, Dugarry (30 Trézeguet) ARS: Al Deayea - Al Jahani (75 A.Al Dosari), Al Khlaiwi, Zebramawi, Soulaimani - Al Shahrani, K.Al Dosari, Amin ©, Saleh - Al Jaber, S.Al Ouwairan (33 Maater, 63 Al Mouwalid) 1:0 Henry 36, 2:0 Trézeguet 69 h, 3:0 Henry 79, 4:0 Lizarazu 85 24.06.98 (15.00) Lens, Stade Felix Bollaert FRA - DAN 2:1 FRA: Barthéz - Karembeu, Leboeuf, Desailly ©, Candela - Vieira, Petit (65 Boghossian), Pires (72 Henry), Djorkaeff - Dioméde, Trezéguet (86 Guivarc'h) DAN: Schmeichel - Laursen (46 Colding), Rieper, Høgh, Heintze - Jørgensen (55 Sand), Helveg, Nielsen, M.Laudrup © - Schönberg, B.Laudrup (75 Tøfting) 1:0 Djorkaeff 23 p, 1:1 M.Laudrup 42 p, 2:1 Petit 56 28.06.98 (15.30) Lens, Stade Felix Bollaert FRA - PAR 1:0 (-42000) Bujsaim UEA, Wickeramatunge SRI, Fred VAN FRA: Barthéz - Lizarazu, Blanc, Thuram - Desailly, Deschamps ©, Petit (69 Boghossian), Diomede (76 Guivarc'h), Trezéguet - Djorkaeff, Henry (64 Pires) PAR: Chilavert © - Arce, Ayala, Acuña, Gamarra, Sarabia - Cardozo (91 A.Rojas), Paredes (74 Caniza), Enciso - Campos (55 Yegros), Benitez 1:0 Blanc 113 gg Quarter finals 03.07.98 (15.30) St.Denis, Stade de France FRA - ITA 0:0 FRA: Barthéz - Thuram, Blanc, Desailly, Lizarazu - Deschamps ©, Petit, Djorkaeff, Karembeu (65 Henry) - Zidane, Guivarc'h (65 Trezéguet) ITA: Pagliuca - Costacurta, Maldini ©, Bergomi, Cannavaro - D.Baggio (53 Albertini), Pessotto (90 Di Livio), Di Biagio, Moriero - Del Piero (67 R.Baggio), Vieri Penalties: 1:0 Zidane, 1:1 R.Baggio, (1:1) Lizarazu (save Pagliuca), (1:1) Albertini (save Barthéz), 2:1 Trézeguet, 2:2 Costacurta, 3;2 Henry, 3:3 Vieri, 4:3 Blanc, (4:3) Di Biaggio (out) Semifinals 08.07.98 (20.00) St.Denis, Stade de France FRA - CRO 2:1 FRA: Barthéz - Thuram, Blanc, Desailly, Lizarazu - Karembeu (31 Henry), Djorkaeff (77 Leboeuf), Deschamps ©, Zidane - Petit, Guivarc'h (68 Trézeguet) CRO: Ladić - Štimac, Bilić, Soldo, Jarni - Stanić (89 Prosinečki), Šimić, Asanović, Boban (c - 66 Marić) - Šuker, Vlaović 0:1 Šuker 46, 1:1 Thuram 47, 2:1 Thuram 69 I`ll give you the fact he never played in the final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 er - i think you'll find henry made a grand total of ZERO appearences for his country during the 98 world cup. guivarch (sp?) was regularly brought on as sub. 44910[/snapback] 12.06.98 (20.00) Marseilles, Stade Vélodrome FRA - SAF 3:0 FRA: Barthéz - Lizarazu, Blanc ©, Deschamps, Desailly - Djorkaeff (82 Trézeguet), Guivarc'h (26 Dugarry), Thuram, Zidane - Henry, Petit (72 Boghossian) SAF: Vonk - Nyathi, Jackson, Issa, Radebe © - Fortune, Moshoeu, Fish, Augustine (56 Mkhalele) - McCarthy (89 Bartlett), Masinga 1:0 Dugarry 34 h, 2:0 Issa 77 o, 3:0 Henry 90+ 18.06.98 (20.00) St.Denis, Stade de France FRA - ARS 4:0 FRA: Barthéz - Thuram, Blanc, Desailly, Lizarazu - Boghossian, Deschamps ©, Henry (77 Pires), Dioméde (58 Djorkaeff) - Zidane, Dugarry (30 Trézeguet) ARS: Al Deayea - Al Jahani (75 A.Al Dosari), Al Khlaiwi, Zebramawi, Soulaimani - Al Shahrani, K.Al Dosari, Amin ©, Saleh - Al Jaber, S.Al Ouwairan (33 Maater, 63 Al Mouwalid) 1:0 Henry 36, 2:0 Trézeguet 69 h, 3:0 Henry 79, 4:0 Lizarazu 85 24.06.98 (15.00) Lens, Stade Felix Bollaert FRA - DAN 2:1 FRA: Barthéz - Karembeu, Leboeuf, Desailly ©, Candela - Vieira, Petit (65 Boghossian), Pires (72 Henry), Djorkaeff - Dioméde, Trezéguet (86 Guivarc'h) DAN: Schmeichel - Laursen (46 Colding), Rieper, Høgh, Heintze - Jørgensen (55 Sand), Helveg, Nielsen, M.Laudrup © - Schönberg, B.Laudrup (75 Tøfting) 1:0 Djorkaeff 23 p, 1:1 M.Laudrup 42 p, 2:1 Petit 56 28.06.98 (15.30) Lens, Stade Felix Bollaert FRA - PAR 1:0 (-42000) Bujsaim UEA, Wickeramatunge SRI, Fred VAN FRA: Barthéz - Lizarazu, Blanc, Thuram - Desailly, Deschamps ©, Petit (69 Boghossian), Diomede (76 Guivarc'h), Trezéguet - Djorkaeff, Henry (64 Pires) PAR: Chilavert © - Arce, Ayala, Acuña, Gamarra, Sarabia - Cardozo (91 A.Rojas), Paredes (74 Caniza), Enciso - Campos (55 Yegros), Benitez 1:0 Blanc 113 gg Quarter finals 03.07.98 (15.30) St.Denis, Stade de France FRA - ITA 0:0 FRA: Barthéz - Thuram, Blanc, Desailly, Lizarazu - Deschamps ©, Petit, Djorkaeff, Karembeu (65 Henry) - Zidane, Guivarc'h (65 Trezéguet) ITA: Pagliuca - Costacurta, Maldini ©, Bergomi, Cannavaro - D.Baggio (53 Albertini), Pessotto (90 Di Livio), Di Biagio, Moriero - Del Piero (67 R.Baggio), Vieri Penalties: 1:0 Zidane, 1:1 R.Baggio, (1:1) Lizarazu (save Pagliuca), (1:1) Albertini (save Barthéz), 2:1 Trézeguet, 2:2 Costacurta, 3;2 Henry, 3:3 Vieri, 4:3 Blanc, (4:3) Di Biaggio (out) Semifinals 08.07.98 (20.00) St.Denis, Stade de France FRA - CRO 2:1 FRA: Barthéz - Thuram, Blanc, Desailly, Lizarazu - Karembeu (31 Henry), Djorkaeff (77 Leboeuf), Deschamps ©, Zidane - Petit, Guivarc'h (68 Trézeguet) CRO: Ladić - Štimac, Bilić, Soldo, Jarni - Stanić (89 Prosinečki), Šimić, Asanović, Boban (c - 66 Marić) - Šuker, Vlaović 0:1 Šuker 46, 1:1 Thuram 47, 2:1 Thuram 69 I`ll give you the fact he never played in the final 44934[/snapback] clearly - the websitei got my info from from full of shite. FACT he's still not the same player when hes on international duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicklee Sausage Roll 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I think Rio & Terry are top, Cole is very, very good. Gerrard is a great talent but not always on display, Lamps is too slow for me, Beckham good but not world class imo, Rooney is a bit special, Owen's a good finisher. Dunno why they just don't try someone like Gareth Barry on the left, i'd even ask Robbie Fowler! Say to him, i know your a forward but you've got a good left foot and stuck for anyone else and this is your only chance of getting a game, fancy it? Either of them must be worth a try rather trying to squeeze Beck, Stevie and Frank into a formation that doesn't work. My 1st choice 11 would be: Wes Brown..........Rio............Sol...............Cole SWP................Jenas............King,L..............Dyer .......................Defoe............Heskey............. with some as yet unheard of black genius goalkeeper. Subs: Bramble Vassell Bent, D. Jlloyd Samuel as yet, unfound back-up goalie of good caribbean ancestry. Carlton Palmer as manager. Purely my unbiased opinion of England's best chance at silverware 44382[/snapback] Wes Brown isn't black, he's orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Wes Brown isn't black, he's orange. 44978[/snapback] That's a fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 clearly - the websitei got my info from from full of shite. FACT he's still not the same player when hes on international duty. 44948[/snapback] If you're going to make a point, do try and make sure it contains some element of fact. Your grammar is also poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 clearly - the websitei got my info from from full of shite. FACT he's still not the same player when hes on international duty. 44948[/snapback] If you're going to make a point, do try and make sure it contains some element of fact. Your grammar is also poor. 45050[/snapback] I was going to suggest that he should have watched the tournament he was discussing, that would have been even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 clearly - the websitei got my info from from full of shite. FACT he's still not the same player when hes on international duty. 44948[/snapback] If you're going to make a point, do try and make sure it contains some element of fact. Your grammar is also poor. 45050[/snapback] I was going to suggest that he should have watched the tournament he was discussing, that would have been even better 45053[/snapback] Yeah true. But he'd have only been about 6 then wouldn't he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 clearly - the websitei got my info from from full of shite. FACT he's still not the same player when hes on international duty. 44948[/snapback] If you're going to make a point, do try and make sure it contains some element of fact. Your grammar is also poor. 45050[/snapback] I was going to suggest that he should have watched the tournament he was discussing, that would have been even better 45053[/snapback] Yeah true. But he'd have only been about 6 then wouldn't he! 45055[/snapback] I was only 9 and I can remember it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocChip 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I think Rio & Terry are top, Cole is very, very good. Gerrard is a great talent but not always on display, Lamps is too slow for me, Beckham good but not world class imo, Rooney is a bit special, Owen's a good finisher. Dunno why they just don't try someone like Gareth Barry on the left, i'd even ask Robbie Fowler! Say to him, i know your a forward but you've got a good left foot and stuck for anyone else and this is your only chance of getting a game, fancy it? Either of them must be worth a try rather trying to squeeze Beck, Stevie and Frank into a formation that doesn't work. My 1st choice 11 would be: Wes Brown..........Rio............Sol...............Cole SWP................Jenas............King,L..............Dyer .......................Defoe............Heskey............. with some as yet unheard of black genius goalkeeper. Subs: Bramble Vassell Bent, D. Jlloyd Samuel as yet, unfound back-up goalie of good caribbean ancestry. Carlton Palmer as manager. Purely my unbiased opinion of England's best chance at silverware 44382[/snapback] Wes Brown isn't black, he's orange. 44978[/snapback] From now on i shall refer to him as 'Wes Orange.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 you lot can fuck right off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Ahhh that's why I come on here - the cut and thrust of intellectual debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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