Terry F***ING Venables turns us down.

[wykikitoon 20860]

it comes to something when HE turns US down

 

Are you suprised atm? He is 65 and not really in need of a job really is he?

[Isegrim 9906]

it comes to something when HE turns US down

 

Are you suprised atm? He is 65 and not really in need of a job really is he?

He's at least making money out of it by selling his story to the S*n...

[paddy 17]

it comes to something when HE turns US down

 

Are you suprised atm? He is 65 and not really in need of a job really is he?

 

he ticks all the boxes tbh

 

Cockney...........CHECK

[wykikitoon 20860]

it comes to something when HE turns US down

 

Are you suprised atm? He is 65 and not really in need of a job really is he?

 

he ticks all the boxes tbh

 

Cockney...........CHECK

 

 

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

Who's next on the list then, Hoddle or George Graham?

[TheMoog 0]

I still think Harry Bassett's a good bet

[peasepud 59]

How fucking embarassing is this though?

 

Even Terry fucking Venables is turning us down!

 

He took on the nappyrippers for fucks sake!

[wykikitoon 20860]

Graham has said he wouldnt take it. He said a few years back but not now. Which in fact takes me onto my other thread about being a big club. GG said he would of a few years back "Newcastle are a massive club" now he isnt the first or last person to say it! Thats where the media get it from!!!

[Happy Face 29]

How fucking embarassing is this though?

 

Even Terry fucking Venables is turning us down!

 

He took on the nappyrippers for fucks sake!

 

 

Has Ashley once got the man he wanted?

 

Woodgate turned to Coloccini

Modric turned to Guttierez

Redknapp turned to Keegan

Venables turned to Wise

And now Venables is going to turn to god knows what

 

We got Aaron Spear, right?

[peasepud 59]

How fucking embarassing is this though?

 

Even Terry fucking Venables is turning us down!

 

He took on the nappyrippers for fucks sake!

 

 

Has Ashley once got the man he wanted?

 

 

Jimminez, Labia

[Bungle 0]

Its only a matter of time before Graham Taylor enters the frame.Everyone else has turned us down.I can`t believe Dog-leash has been contemplated,if you believe the crack.

Edited September 25, 2008 by Bungle

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

We got Aaron Spear, right?

I'm not sure, but if we did it was only because Sam Vokes went to Wolves.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

Its only a matter of time before Graham Taylor enters the frame.Everyone else has tuned us down.I can`t beleive Dog-leash has been contemplated,if you believe the crack.

Do I not like that.

[wykikitoon 20860]

According to the BBC Vegetables has rejected us.

 

Venables rejects Newcastle offer

 

Venables was England's coach between 1994 and 1996

 

Former England coach Terry Venables has turned down the chance to take over as Newcastle manager in a temporary capacity, BBC Sport understands.

 

Newcastle wanted to appoint Venables on a game-by-game deal but the 65-year-old preferred a fixed period contract.

 

Venables had been holding talks with director of football Dennis Wise and vice-president Tony Jimenez.

 

They are thought to have an alternative in mind, with Glenn Hoddle and David O'Leary both being linked with the job.

 

Newcastle had hoped to make an announcement over the vacant manager's position before the weekend as the Magpies try to find some stability in a season that is threatening to spiral out of control.

 

The club's Carling Cup exit to Tottenham on Wednesday was their third straight defeat since Kevin Keegan's resignation, while owner Mike Ashley is also intent on selling the club.

 

Venables, who is a close friend of Wise, has been out of work for nearly a year after he was sacked as assistant to former England coach Steve McClaren in November 2007.

 

In an interview with BBC Sport on 18 September, Venables said the so-called foreign model of a head coach and director of football could work but only if the roles are clearly defined.

 

He said: "It works if everyone's in agreement, if you're in agreement with the situation as a manager then fine. But if you say no and then it's implementing change that is when the problems come in.

 

"I think the parameters of a manager's job have got to be clearly defined."

 

Since Keegan left the club over a dispute regarding control of player transfers, Newcastle have lurched from one crisis to the next.

 

Billionaire Ashley, who has pumped £250m into the club, has said he is unable to watch the Newcastle team due to fears over his family's safety.

 

"I'm now a dad who can't take his kids to a football game because I am advised that we would be assaulted," he said earlier this month.

 

And their search for a manager, either on an interim or permanent basis, has proved equally problematic.

 

Venables was England's coach between 1994 and 1996.

 

He made his name in management with spells at Crystal Palace and Queens Park Rangers before his exploits saw him appointed Barcelona coach.

 

He was dubbed El Tel and guided the club to a Spanish League title, a League Cup win and a European Cup final - which they lost on penalties to Steaua Bucharest - before being sacked in September 1987.

 

He took over at Tottenham later that year and won the FA Cup with the club in 1991 before taking a role upstairs as chief executive at White Hart Lane as Sir Alan Sugar took over the club.

 

But a deteriorating relationship between the two led to his acrimonious exit in November 1993, which saw matters end up in the High Court.

 

After a two-year spell as England coach which culminated in reaching the semi-finals of Euro 96, he had an unhappy spell as consultant and chairman of Portsmouth and failed in his attempts to lead Australia to qualification for the 1998 World Cup.

 

A foray back at Palace did not go well as the club found itself struggling for money and form.

 

Venables restored some of his ailing reputation when he was brought in as Bryan Robson's assistant at Middlesbrough and helped the club avoid relegation in 2000.

 

He did not stay at the Riverside long and went on to manage Leeds in July 2002 but left less than a year later as the club spiralled into financial crisis.

 

Hull City boss Phil Brown, who hails from the North East, told the BBC: "You can't get anyone with more experience than Terry.

 

"What Newcastle need is somebody of that ilk. Whether Terry Venables is the right man, is their (Newcastle's) decision."

[Mag Numb 0]

No decent manager will touch us with a barge pole at the moment. We will get a shit stop gap.

 

The next owner will put keegan in charge again, we will survive by a whisker until keegan falls out with them and the circle starts again.

[JawD 99]

No decent manager will touch us with a barge pole at the moment. We will get a shit stop gap.

 

The next owner will put keegan in charge again, we will survive by a whisker until keegan falls out with them and the circle starts again.

 

Like Venables?

[ewerk 31229]

They wanted to appoint him on a game by game basis.

 

They really have no clue whatsoever do they? He would have accepted a contract to the end of the season imo so if a new owner had've came in and wanted rid then they wouldn't even have been faced with paying a shedload of compensation. What a fucking joke.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

They wanted to appoint him on a game by game basis.

 

They really have no clue whatsoever do they? He would have accepted a contract to the end of the season imo so if a new owner had've came in and wanted rid then they wouldn't even have been faced with paying a shedload of compensation. What a fucking joke.

Trying to do things on the cheap again.

[ewerk 31229]

Exactly, plus they're not even gonna be around to pay him off. Twats.

[Isegrim 9906]

They wanted to appoint him on a game by game basis.

 

They really have no clue whatsoever do they? He would have accepted a contract to the end of the season imo so if a new owner had've came in and wanted rid then they wouldn't even have been faced with paying a shedload of compensation. What a fucking joke.

It actually can't see the problem in trying to get some short-term solution. I do find it rather sensible tbh. Especially as they could take the approach of not caring, because if they are going to sell soon they wouldn't need to bother if and how much the new owner had to pay to get rid of the manager...

[Happy Face 29]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/se...newcastleunited

 

Only O'Leary can save us now.

 

[Scottish Mag 3]

Newcastle United’s tortuous search for a manager was in a familiar state of limbo last night after Terry Venables turned down the opportunity to succeed Kevin Keegan. After a substantive round of talks with the club’s hierarchy in London yesterday, the former England head coach rejected terms that would have had him installed on an interim basis.

 

With Newcastle up for sale, Venables had been told that his position would not go beyond the end of Mike Ashley’s involvement at the club, effectively restricting him to a match-to-match deal. While the 65-year-old was confident that he could motivate the team, the limited timescale and chaotic circumstances did not appeal.

 

“Newcastle United means too much to too many people to take the job on a short-term basis,” Venables said. “It demands total commitment and dedication from a manager prepared to throw himself heart and soul into the club. I was ready and willing to give it a real go. But all they could guarantee was I’d be in a job until Mike Ashley sells — whenever that might be.”

 

Whether Newcastle’s increasing desperation will lead them to rethink their proposal is uncertain — the public nature of Venables’s refusal has the ring of finality — although given the extraordinary nature of recent events at the club, nothing can be ruled out. That, of course, includes another return for Keegan.

 

Venables met Dennis Wise, the executive director (football), Derek Llambias, the managing director, and Tony Jimenez, the vice-president, before informing them of his decision by phone. Newcastle had been confident of an appointment before tomorrow’s match at home to Blackburn Rovers, but Chris Hughton, the caretaker manager, is set to address the media today.

 

From a similarly low league position, Venables steered Middlesbrough from relegation in the 2000-01 season, but his authority had been bolstered by a deal until the end of that campaign. This allowed him to improve confidence and change tactics, neither of which would have been easy with Newcastle’s short-term offer.

 

Ashley had offered Venables a director of football role at Newcastle before Wise’s arrival in January, but the club’s embattled owner was not directly involved in yesterday’s talks. That, the confused nature of Newcastle’s initial approach for the manager’s post and the temporary status proffered did not fill Venables with confidence that the proposition was workable.

 

Having initially drawn up a managerial shortlist featuring acolytes of Wise, such as Gustavo Poyet, Paul Ince and Didier Deschamps, Ashley subsequently failed in an attempt to tempt Keegan back to Tyneside. An experienced candidate is being sought, but Glenn Hoddle and Avram Grant, the former Chelsea manager, are also said to have dismissed Newcastle’s advances.

 

Bookmakers reinstalled Keegan as favourite for the job last night — a Nigerian consortium interested in buying the club has intimated that it would seek to reappoint him — but the situation on Tyneside has become farcical. George Graham, David O’Leary, Gérard Houllier, Dave Bassett and Alan Curbishley have been touted as possible acting managers, but credibility is an issue and none is guaranteed to energise players or fans. Newcastle have lost four matches in succession and are second-bottom of the Barclays Premier League.

 

Protests against Ashley’s regime will resume for the Blackburn fixture, with fans continuing their boycott of official club merchandise and catering outlets. The newly formed Newcastle United Supporters Club will distribute 20,000 leaflets outside the stadium before kick-off, detailing their aims and ambitions, but Ashley’s departure remains their immediate objective. Venables was keen to point out that his rejection was not influenced by concern over protests from supporters. “My decision had nothing to do with a fear of a fans’ backlash,” he said.

 

Morale in the dressing-room is low and Steven Taylor, the centre half, made an emotional apology for his role in Newcastle’s 2-1 Carling Cup defeat by Tottenham Hotspur on Wednesday night. “I hold my hands up for the second goal,” Taylor said. “It proved so costly and I want to apologise to everybody. I owe the fans and I owe my team-mates, too.”

 

Newcastle received a further blow yesterday when they learnt that Obafemi Martins, the forward, faces a layoff of up to six weeks, after his knee suffered an adverse reaction to his return to action against Tottenham.

 

Bassett!

 

Give it a few days and Barry Fry will be getting linked too....

[ewerk 31229]

They wanted to appoint him on a game by game basis.

 

They really have no clue whatsoever do they? He would have accepted a contract to the end of the season imo so if a new owner had've came in and wanted rid then they wouldn't even have been faced with paying a shedload of compensation. What a fucking joke.

It actually can't see the problem in trying to get some short-term solution. I do find it rather sensible tbh. Especially as they could take the approach of not caring, because if they are going to sell soon they wouldn't need to bother if and how much the new owner had to pay to get rid of the manager...

 

Well giving him a contract to the end of the season would have still been a short-term solution, offering a game by game contract is an insult to any self-respecting manager.

[Jimbo 175]

From The Sun: Why I turned down Newcastle united, by Verry Terribles.

 

THERE is one reason and one reason alone why I’ve turned down the chance to take temporary charge at Newcastle — time.

 

Newcastle United means too much to too many people to take the job on a short-term basis.

 

It demands total commitment and dedication from a manager who is prepared to throw himself heart and soul into the club.

 

I didn’t want to move up to Tyneside and find myself surplus to requirements before I’d even had the chance to get my teeth into the challenge.

 

The way the job was offered to me meant that I might be working at St James’ Park for two months, two years . . . or two weeks.

 

There was far too much uncertainty involved.

 

When I take on a job I need to know exactly what my goals and targets are.

 

It would have been impossible to achieve any aims in the conditions they wanted me to work under.

 

I was ready and willing to give it a real go but I was never offered the chance to do that.

 

All they could guarantee was that I’d be in a job until Mike Ashley sells the club . . . whenever that might be.

 

So as flattered and honoured as I was to be approached by Newcastle, in the end it wasn’t that difficult a decision for me to decline their offer.

 

The Newcastle supporters have suffered more than enough in recent years. I didn’t want them to think I’d gone up there just to pocket a few quid from Mike Ashley and then wave ‘cheerio’ a couple of weeks later.

 

But I want to make it absolutely clear that my decision had nothing to do with a fear of a fans’ backlash.

 

I know only too well that many of the Newcastle supporters have been protesting about the so-called ‘Cockney Mafia’ running their club.

 

But I honestly don’t believe it would have been an issue for me. All my work would have been done in the dressing room, not the boardroom. I understand the Geordies are proud of their city and their club — and rightly so.

 

But I’m sure they will warm to any manager who gives his total commitment to their team and starts winning games.

 

I could have handled one or two fans calling me a Cockney this or that. I’ve had to deal with a lot worse than that in my time, believe me. But if you are going to do that job seriously, the new man will need time to understand the club, time to get to know the players and time to work out all their strengths and weaknesses.

 

No one is going to walk into St James’ Park and turn things around overnight.

 

People might claim that was what I did when I accepted a similar fire-fighting role at Middlesbrough eight years ago.

 

But let me assure you it was a totally different set-up.

 

I went into that job at the beginning of December with the knowledge that I would be working alongside Bryan Robson for the rest of the season.

 

We were nine points adrift of safety at the time but I knew I was going to get the time I needed to have an effect and make an impact. As it happened, we avoided relegation fairly comfortably in the end.

 

During those seven months on Teesside I moved into the area with my wife, worked every day on the training ground and put all my other commitments to one side. I would have done the same for Newcastle. But that wasn’t what they wanted.

 

Let me make it clear it was Newcastle who approached me about the job rather than the other way around.

 

It was a complete shock when I received the telephone call this week asking me to meet them.

 

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I met Dennis Wise, Tony Jiminez and Derek Llambias on Wednesday and we had a long chat about what the job entailed and what they expected from me.

 

A number of senior players had told them that they needed to end the uncertainty as quickly as possible and they immediately moved into action to do that.

 

But Mike Ashley wasn’t there and it was made very clear to me that it is the owner’s intention to sell control of the club sooner rather than later.

 

And we all know that whenever a new owner takes control of a club, the first thing he does is appoint his own directors and his own manager.

 

Ashley has been hurt and upset by recent events and feels that family issues mean he has no option but to let someone else take charge of Newcastle.

 

We never discussed money, contracts or any sort of payment. I told them that I first needed to decide if I wanted the job. We could settle the financial side of things at a later date. I promised I’d give them my decision within 24 hours and thought about it long and hard over Wednesday night.

 

But deep down inside I always knew it wasn’t the right job at the right time for me. And I don’t think the Newcastle guys were that surprised when I gave them my answer yesterday. But just because the conditions weren’t right for me doesn’t mean they won’t be right for someone else.

 

I’m sure Newcastle will be inundated with applications from loads of top- quality coaches who are willing to take the job on a temporary basis.

 

And I have absolutely no doubts that it is only a matter of time before the team starts winning games and moving back up the Premier League table.

 

They have plenty of good players on board and as long as they can keep them all fit and available they won’t have any problems.

 

We’re only five games into the new season, for God’s sake.

 

A win tomorrow at home to Blackburn and they could go up as many as 10 places.

 

When I was a young manager, I always regarded Newcastle and Liverpool as the two top jobs to aim for.

 

I see no reason to change that opinion.

 

If the circumstances had been different I would have been delighted to become the manager at St James’ Park.

 

It’s been 10 months since I left my job with England and I haven’t been actively looking to get back into the game since then.

 

But this week’s developments have made me think hard and if the right opportunity and the right conditions come along, I would certainly give it serious consideration.

 

Who knows, maybe the new owners of Newcastle will want me. Somehow, though, I don’t think that is going to happen.

[ohhh_yeah 2991]

I’m sure Newcastle will be inundated with applications from loads of top- quality coaches who are willing to take the job on a temporary basis.