Asprilla 96 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 The most depressing thing about this current farce is with Keegan I was starting to feel how I used to again. Nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10017 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Bringing Keegan back was proof there was still room for sentiment and romance in football. And the way he has been treated by Ashley and his associates has been absolutely shocking, he deserved much more. The day when business wins over a true footballing man like Keegan is everything what is wrong with the game at the moment. Two weeks on and I still feel like something has died within myself. I am not someone condemning everything modern in football. To the contrary I do think that modern football has brought as much good as bad. There is a lot of the past that I don't need and want back. But romanticising nostalgia has probably always been a part of football (starting with the introduction of round goal posts and football boots - I blame Adi Dassler). Keegan returning was a good piece of nostalgia though. It was so great to see the glimmer of hope again after several years of darkness with football murderers like Souness and Allardyce. The terrible thing was the unexpectancy and incomprehensibility together with the lies. Keegan's resignation was not my first big disappointment. I already had to witness my local team going bancrupt and cease to exist. But this was a process of several years and you could adjust to the disappointment, even though you never believed the moment would really come. With Keegan it is different and much harder to take. It's not so much a fault of the modern game imho. As long as there has been football there have been different ideas of how to run a football club. The problem is that the change of ownership and the return of a cult hero proved to be a disappointing false dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 The final caveat for us all will be the first £100m £500k a week football and every league game televised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 The final caveat for us all will be the first £100m £500k a week football and every league game televised. Get the fuck over it man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1280 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I have to say like I'm sick of it all now. I've given up thinking about who our next manager might be or when we might be sold. I've completely lost interest and I only hope that when one/both of the above happen it will reignite me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7095 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 The final caveat for us all will be the first £100m £500k a week football and every league game televised. Is that actually a caveat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 The final caveat for us all will be the first £100m £500k a week football and every league game televised. Is that actually a caveat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fop 1 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I must admit last time I was at the southern most point of South America there was a mob of people with placards saying "Death to Israel". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_cann 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 As mentioned, keegan being here made my life start to almost revolve around newcastle united again, whereas something is definitely now missing. i hope it comes back, but even then i will always find it hard to digest the fact it's going to be so tough for us to challenge for any honours. with keegan i actually thought we had a genuine chance in the cup competition's with a good draw. as an example, since the keegan saga began the NFL started again in the USA and the salary cap and draft system has meant the competition is so much greater than in the premier league. i've been watching it over the past four season's and each time there has been a different superbowl winner and the favourite at the beginning of each season has never won it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) Bringing Keegan back was proof there was still room for sentiment and romance in football. And the way he has been treated by Ashley and his associates has been absolutely shocking, he deserved much more. The day when business wins over a true footballing man like Keegan is everything what is wrong with the game at the moment. Not only was it sentiment and romance but it was showing signs of actually being a good footballing decision, though I'm beginning to think that that was more through luck than judgement on the board's behalf. What you said. After the first five or six games I was seriously worrying about relegation, and how fate would probably come back to bite us on the arse since we did so well with Keegan the last time. That feeling disipated when he took us on a run which saw us become the form team in the Premiership for about a month and a half. Journalists will go on and on about how his win % was less than Fat Sam's, but the hangover from the BSA era was huge and the fact he turned us around rather than take us down says buckets about KK. He also put pay to the tactically naive rumours by seeing the attributes Owen had, playing him in the hole and giving him the confidence to perform like he used to. It was a masterstoke. We were playing good football and we were winning games under a manager who galvanised the whole city and that was all that mattered. We could've finished top 10 this season and i'd have been happy. Now it looks like we're in for another relegation scrap Edited September 19, 2008 by Ketsbaia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_cann 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Bringing Keegan back was proof there was still room for sentiment and romance in football. And the way he has been treated by Ashley and his associates has been absolutely shocking, he deserved much more. The day when business wins over a true footballing man like Keegan is everything what is wrong with the game at the moment. Not only was it sentiment and romance but it was showing signs of actually being a good footballing decision, though I'm beginning to think that that was more through luck than judgement on the board's behalf. What you said. After the first five or six games I was seriously worrying about relegation, and how fate would probably come back to bite us on the arse since we did so well with Keegan the last time. That feeling disipated when he took us on a run which saw us become the form team in the Premiership for about a month and a half. Journalists will go on and on about how his win % was less than Fat Sam's, but the hangover from the BSA era was huge and the fact he turned us around rather than take us down says buckets about KK. He also put pay to the tactically naive rumours by seeing the attributes Owen had, playing him in the hole and giving him the confidence to perform like he used to. It was a masterstoke. We were playing good football and we were winning games under a manager who galvanised the whole city and that was all that mattered. We could've finished top 10 this season and i'd have been happy. Now it looks like we're in for another relegation scrap precisely....i wish the media and general public would concentrate on the last two months of last season and the beginning we made to this season under keegan. it was quite apparent we were making progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) The lad who said this to me is a good lad, he knows I'm pissed off but wasn't and isn't taking the piss. What he said is what he's felt for a long time, but put it across to me in that way. Actually, pissed off is an understatement. I was very happy when Keegan came back, but never felt it was the same, and thats because I never felt Ashley had it in him to be the right person for us, or to understand football. It's like once again, this club has built you up only to smack you in the face. I'm the biggest optimist in the world me on a game by game basis. I always think we can win any game at the time, you just have to play well on the day, in that respect, over the season is different, you know its impossible to win every game of course, and you will know you a certain quality of team and are likely to finish in a particular position in the league. I'm not too confident of tomorrow at the moment, but thats because my enthusiasm has totally dived. It will pass in time, but I can't see it recovering too much until there is a change in leadership and/or direction at the top. Ashley could still yet admit where he's gone wrong, but I won't hold my breath. Overall, as Isegrim said, a bit [more] of me too has died in the last 2 weeks. Edited September 19, 2008 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31593 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Actually, pissed off is an understatement. I was very happy when Keegan came back, but never felt it was the same, and thats because I never felt Ashley had it in him to be the right person for us, or to understand football. In retrospect I agree, but the previous incumbent didn't know enough about business imo. What we need is either a happy medium or someone with enough money to not to need to worry about the business side of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) Actually, pissed off is an understatement. I was very happy when Keegan came back, but never felt it was the same, and thats because I never felt Ashley had it in him to be the right person for us, or to understand football. In retrospect I agree, but the previous incumbent didn't know enough about business imo. What we need is either a happy medium or someone with enough money to not to need to worry about the business side of the club. It's a double edged sword. If we get the former we can only hope to be a midtable side until the arse drops out of football but if we get the latter yeah, we'll win stuff but there is a high chance we'll be one of the casualties when said arse drops. Edited September 19, 2008 by Ketsbaia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31593 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 What do you mean by the 'arse dropping out of football'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 Actually, pissed off is an understatement. I was very happy when Keegan came back, but never felt it was the same, and thats because I never felt Ashley had it in him to be the right person for us, or to understand football. In retrospect I agree, but the previous incumbent didn't know enough about business imo. What we need is either a happy medium or someone with enough money to not to need to worry about the business side of the club. Well, Ashley knows even less, his business is hurtling towards the championship/2nd division [whatever the fuck its called these days] you know, the place where the club had spent years before the Halls and Shepherd rescued it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 What do you mean by the 'arse dropping out of football'? Basically, it's the point where every fucker realises that players aren't worth £150,000 a week, people switch off, stop packing out stadiums and generally lose interest en masse. No one pays as much for the rights as they used to and eventually all the clubs who were at the top find themselves "doing a Leeds". Of course it may not happen for decades yet but it will happen one day. Football can't keep wasting money like it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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