The 80s

[sammynb 3517]

EDIT: Oh, and Bladerunner is cack.

 

With every breath you mutter, my opinion of your tastes in music and film turns for the worse.

 

Oh and the Young Ones, Martin, the Young Ones!

[Happy Face 29]

EDIT: Oh, and Bladerunner is cack.

 

With every breath you mutter, my opinion of your tastes in music and film turns for the worse.

 

 

 

Looking at your list of quality films of the eighties, I'll take that as a compliment.

[sammynb 3517]

EDIT: Oh, and Bladerunner is cack.

 

With every breath you mutter, my opinion of your tastes in music and film turns for the worse.

 

 

 

Looking at your list of quality films of the eighties, I'll take that as a compliment.

 

As opposed to:

an accepted fact that the 80's was the worst decade ever for films.

 

...and music, and fashion too.

 

But then again you rate Tarantino don't you?

See more 80's quality, the Hong Kong action and horror films of the 80s that Tarantino constantly cites as influences to his film making!

You know nothing HF and you know it

[sammynb 3517]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of_Hon..._the_boom_years

[Happy Face 29]

EDIT: Oh, and Bladerunner is cack.

 

With every breath you mutter, my opinion of your tastes in music and film turns for the worse.

 

 

 

Looking at your list of quality films of the eighties, I'll take that as a compliment.

 

As opposed to:

an accepted fact that the 80's was the worst decade ever for films.

 

...and music, and fashion too.

 

But then again you rate Tarantino don't you?

See more 80's quality, the Hong Kong action and horror films of the 80s that Tarantino constantly cites as influences to his film making!

You know nothing HF and you know it

 

I love the HK stuff from the 80s.

 

Eight Diagram Pole Fighter, Encounter of the Spooky Kind, Eastern Condors, Project A, A Better Tomorrow, The Killer etc.

 

But they're none of them mainstream over here are they?

[sammynb 3517]

But they're none of them mainstream over here are they?

 

Where at any point have you mentioned mainstream until this point?

See HF that was the thing about the 80s, it was the last true decade of the underground or alternative media.

In the 90s everything became so commercialised that you couldn't tell Nirvana from Madonna. Indie record labels died.

It became harder to make independent films; companies like Hammer and Troma just disappeared because if you weren't tied into Sony/Warner etc, you had little chance of being seen.

I don't know about the UK but here the 90s was the death of the independent cinema, between DVD and the national cinema companies they couldn't compete.

 

Also technology has changed everything.

Remember when you'd go to a music shop and flick through the vinyl/CDs and sometimes pick something new because the cover interested you? Well now you don't bother because you just go to their myspace page and listen. You don't like it you try another 2 minute soundbite to form an opinion.

 

In twenty years time and when people look back on now, they won't be as favourable as they are to the 1980s because the difference between then and now is currently there is no quality control, there is so much more shite on TV or the internet and because of that there are less films produced, less "high" art media. Anyone can produce something that is broadcast somewhere now.

 

I leave you with this thought.

It wasn't until the mid 90s that television broadcasters in Australia were allowed to transmit images under a certain number of television lines, image quality was imperative.

Then it became acceptable to watch lower quality source material, hence "Funniest home video" programs.

Once the picture quality controls were lost, there were no qualms to content quality standards being ignored and the rise of reality television productions happened. Slowly all those things that were valuable to the small format medium were gone but that's ok because now any clueless twat can become famous as an ex-big brother contestant or screaming Britney supporting queen on youtube. There is so much shite that it's becoming harder and harder to wade through it to find anything decent.

Or maybe that's what makes anything produced now that is half decent more appealing.

[Happy Face 29]

I'm fully aware there was a good deal of interesting stuff being done in the 80's, the point is that almost none of it permeated into the wider public conscious at the time.

 

As a kid sat in the house with a radio and 4 tv channels there wasn't much airtime given over to bailter space.

[sammynb 3517]

I'm fully aware there was a good deal of interesting stuff being done in the 80's, the point is that almost none of it permeated into the wider public conscious at the time.

 

As a kid sat in the house with a radio and 4 tv channels there wasn't much airtime given over to bailter space.

 

By the way we were all kids in the 80s, except rob and leaze, but still your point is moot, kid or not it was out there to find.

[Jimbo 175]

was white dog shit a 70's or 80's phenomena ?

[Happy Face 29]

I'm fully aware there was a good deal of interesting stuff being done in the 80's, the point is that almost none of it permeated into the wider public conscious at the time.

 

As a kid sat in the house with a radio and 4 tv channels there wasn't much airtime given over to bailter space.

 

By the way we were all kids in the 80s, except rob and leaze, but still your point is moot, kid or not it was out there to find.

 

I've never said it wasn't. The fact that there was some good stuff, doesn't stop it being generally shit.

 

"Were the 1980s the worst years for music? NPR listeners seem to think so, according the results of our poll. When asked to pick the best year for music, nearly everyone skipped the '80s entirely. "

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...ft=1&f=1039

 

 

 

Where at any point have you mentioned mainstream until this point?

See HF that was the thing about the 80s, it was the last true decade of the underground or alternative media.

In the 90s everything became so commercialised that you couldn't tell Nirvana from Madonna. Indie record labels died.

It became harder to make independent films; companies like Hammer and Troma just disappeared because if you weren't tied into Sony/Warner etc, you had little chance of being seen.

I don't know about the UK but here the 90s was the death of the independent cinema, between DVD and the national cinema companies they couldn't compete.

 

Also technology has changed everything.

Remember when you'd go to a music shop and flick through the vinyl/CDs and sometimes pick something new because the cover interested you? Well now you don't bother because you just go to their myspace page and listen. You don't like it you try another 2 minute soundbite to form an opinion.

 

In twenty years time and when people look back on now, they won't be as favourable as they are to the 1980s because the difference between then and now is currently there is no quality control, there is so much more shite on TV or the internet and because of that there are less films produced, less "high" art media. Anyone can produce something that is broadcast somewhere now.

 

I leave you with this thought.

It wasn't until the mid 90s that television broadcasters in Australia were allowed to transmit images under a certain number of television lines, image quality was imperative.

Then it became acceptable to watch lower quality source material, hence "Funniest home video" programs.

Once the picture quality controls were lost, there were no qualms to content quality standards being ignored and the rise of reality television productions happened. Slowly all those things that were valuable to the small format medium were gone but that's ok because now any clueless twat can become famous as an ex-big brother contestant or screaming Britney supporting queen on youtube. There is so much shite that it's becoming harder and harder to wade through it to find anything decent.

Or maybe that's what makes anything produced now that is half decent more appealing.

 

Arguing that the 80's was great because there was still a spirit of independence in the same breath as denouncing the way things are now because ANYBODY can get their stuff out is a remarkable contradiction to have made with a straight face.

[Meenzer 15740]

So does anyone remember sweets?

[catmag 337]

So does anyone remember sweets?

 

Jars of sweets at the newsagents. Cola cubes, pineapple chunks etc.

 

Anyone mentioned Bros yet?

[sammynb 3517]

Arguing that the 80's was great because there was still a spirit of independence in the same breath as denouncing the way things are now because ANYBODY can get their stuff out is a remarkable contradiction to have made with a straight face.

 

Seriously I thought you actually had a brain, it appears not.

You made a "general" comment that everything in the 80s was crap, I proved you and your argument wrong, now you quote shit polls and purposely miss my point about current technology.

But that's ok because Bladerunner is cack.

Fuck off.

Edited September 20, 2008 by sammynb

[Gejon 2]

So does anyone remember sweets?

 

Jars of sweets at the newsagents. Cola cubes, pineapple chunks etc.

 

Anyone mentioned Bros yet?

 

We have a proper old school sweet shop in Hitchin, sells all the classics in the proper measurements.

[Meenzer 15740]

Arguing that the 80's was great because there was still a spirit of independence in the same breath as denouncing the way things are now because ANYBODY can get their stuff out is a remarkable contradiction to have made with a straight face.

 

Seriously I thought you actually had a brain, it appears not.

You made a "general" comment that everything in the 80s was crap, I proved you and your argument wrong, now you quote shit polls and purposely miss my point about current technology.

But that's ok because Bladerunner is cack.

Fuck off.

Mate, maybe you don't get the same kind of cobbled-together "talking head" shows we're fed in the name of entertainment over here. The whole point of them is that they're full of superficial analysis like that.

[sammynb 3517]

Arguing that the 80's was great because there was still a spirit of independence in the same breath as denouncing the way things are now because ANYBODY can get their stuff out is a remarkable contradiction to have made with a straight face.

 

Seriously I thought you actually had a brain, it appears not.

You made a "general" comment that everything in the 80s was crap, I proved you and your argument wrong, now you quote shit polls and purposely miss my point about current technology.

But that's ok because Bladerunner is cack.

Fuck off.

Mate, maybe you don't get the same kind of cobbled-together "talking head" shows we're fed in the name of entertainment over here. The whole point of them is that they're full of superficial analysis like that.

 

Martin, if you mean things like Parky and Jools, yes we get them, plus we get the shitty pop shows (London live I think is one of them) but in the 1980s we also had things like old grey whistle test.

I grew up in a regional Australian city that was a looooooooooooong way from England and the States musically/culturally and yet I was still able to learn ablut the Smiths, Talking Heads and all the rest that I cited as examples.

HF grew up in Newcastle, England and is complaining it wasn't in the general stream on consciousness so therefore it doesn't count or didn't exist!

 

Edit: Martin I've just realised they probably aren't the type of programs you are referring to, you're talking about the commercial television programs "great moments of the 80s!" or "Peter Andre is a twat because he was a shite music performer of the 90s so where is he now?!??" productions aren't you?

We get them, I just choose to watch something else.

Edited September 20, 2008 by sammynb

[Meenzer 15740]

Yes.

[Happy Face 29]

Arguing that the 80's was great because there was still a spirit of independence in the same breath as denouncing the way things are now because ANYBODY can get their stuff out is a remarkable contradiction to have made with a straight face.

 

Seriously I thought you actually had a brain, it appears not.

You made a "general" comment that everything in the 80s was crap, I proved you and your argument wrong, now you quote shit polls and purposely miss my point about current technology.

But that's ok because Bladerunner is cack.

Fuck off.

 

I've not once said everything from the 80's was crap, I've never encouraged others to say that and I've repeatedly said there was good stuff. By listing some of the good stuff, I don't see that as 'proof' of my opinion being wrong, more a confirmation.

 

You seem to be protective of a decade you clearly have a fondness for, that's fine by me. I'm sure you'll retort with another personal insult though as if I've poisoned your cat or something.

[peasepud 59]

You poisoned his cat?

 

you bastard!!!!

[sammynb 3517]

You poisoned his cat?

 

you bastard!!!!

 

My cat?

You poisioned my cat!

You cunt

[sammynb 3517]

You seem to be protective of a decade you clearly have a fondness for, that's fine by me. I'm sure you'll retort with another personal insult though as if I've poisoned your cat or something.

 

[Happy Face 29]

Just for Sammy, The Art of Noise.

 

 

[sammynb 3517]

Right back at ya' HF

 

[Fop 1]

I've not once said everything from the 80's was crap,

 

 

 

Best

They ended

 

 

 

 

[Happy Face 29]

I've not once said everything from the 80's was crap,

 

 

 

Best

They ended

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, the best of the the good things there were.