Fop 1 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Newcastle's own web archives prove Kevin Keegan is right - FACT! By Simon Bird 8/09/2008 kevin keegan Kevin Keegan will use evidence from Newcastle's own club publications to back up his £8m claim for constructive dismissal. Newcastle chiefs set about trashing Keegan at the weekend with briefings aimed at tarnishing his reputation - a move that will trigger more revulsion from fans. Owner Mike Ashley and his directors claimed Keegan had no responsibility over new signings. But Keegan yesterday insisted: "When I joined Newcastle it was made clear to me I would have the final say on player movement." And Mirror Sport has built up a strong case to prove the club's statement is misleading - using their own website archive. Fact: Ashley told Newcastle's official magazine last month: "If the deal is right - that means the right player who Kevin wants - we will do the deal. Kevin is very particular on who he wants." Fact: Wise told the club website on February 1: "He (Keegan) will say yes or no. He has the final word. No-one else. I am not going to do things like bring players in behind his back." Fact: Later that day, in a piece billed as an exclusive with the club's TV station, Wise added: "A lot of people have got a little mixed up with the reason I'm here and we need to straighten that out quite quickly. I'm not here to be involved in the first team." Fact: On January 29 then chairman Chris Mort stated: "Kevin will be responsible for ALL matters related to the first team." Fact: Keegan, proving he is being consistent in claiming he was in charge of transfers from day one, said on April 24: "If they bring players in who are not my players I wouldn't be managing this club. Ashley and Executive Director Dennis Wise are in the ludicrous position of having to claim they were misquoted by their own club officials to wriggle out of the row that led to Keegan's walk-out. The club is now left with little choice but to appoint a friend of Wise as their new boss who will take the title of 'coach'. That has led to Wise's former Chelsea team-mates Gus Poyet and the charismatic Gianfranco Zola becoming front-runners for the St James's Park job, along with Didier Deschamps and Spaniard Jose Camacho. One candidate, Real Zaragoza boss Marcelino Toral, has ruled himself out of the running. He said: "It doesn't matter what the team is, or how much money they have, no club will take me away from Zaragoza. I have made a commitment." Save that somewhere and send a copy to be mailed on your death/disappearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6594 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Fact: Later that day, in a piece billed as an exclusive with the club's TV station, Wise added: "A lot of people have got a little mixed up with the reason I'm here and we need to straighten that out quite quickly. I'm not here to be involved in the first team." There'll be an archive video of that somewhere. Damning beyond belief in the face of Saturday night's statement from the liars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 HTT on N.O. This new system you talk of has: Forced our manager to resign Failed to tie up Owen to a longer deal Failed to strengthen the squad and replace players sold Failed to add quality to key areas of the team Failed to communicate with fans Fucked up season ticket arrivals Made us the laughing stock of world football Turned us into a circus Those last 2 are the same really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 Fact: Later that day, in a piece billed as an exclusive with the club's TV station, Wise added: "A lot of people have got a little mixed up with the reason I'm here and we need to straighten that out quite quickly. I'm not here to be involved in the first team." There'll be an archive video of that somewhere. Damning beyond belief in the face of Saturday night's statement from the liars... I've canvassed ex-Mrs Parky and she reckons the way this is going KK can get punitive damages and MA is lucky this ain't the U.S. or it could run in many millions. If I were KK I'd sue for £50m and hire Mikey 'the boy' Mansfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Fact: Later that day, in a piece billed as an exclusive with the club's TV station, Wise added: "A lot of people have got a little mixed up with the reason I'm here and we need to straighten that out quite quickly. I'm not here to be involved in the first team." There'll be an archive video of that somewhere. Damning beyond belief in the face of Saturday night's statement from the liars... Maybe Xisco wasn't supposed to be a first team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Im glad that someone is taking the other side rather than what I was reading over the weekend stating KK as being wrong. We all know whats gone on and this shows just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 It is pretty hilarious that NUFC's entire defence seems to be "We always told Keegan he had no control over transfers and he knew we were lying to the fans/media through our teeth, in fact he went so far as to join in with those lies. In our opinion he's being a bit of a bad sport taking advantage of our joint public misrepresentation of the situation in order to wangle himself a payoff.... and this time we're telling the truth, honest." Fucktards. Even if that WAS the case, they deserve shitting on from a great height for putting themselves in the position to be (if you will) blackmailed. This is what happens Mike, this is what happens when you fuck 52,000 strangers in the ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 It is pretty hilarious that NUFC's entire defence seems to be "We always told Keegan he had no control over transfers and he knew we were lying to the fans/media through our teeth, in fact he went so far as to join in with those lies. In our opinion he's being a bit of a bad sport taking advantage of our joint public misrepresentation of the situation in order to wangle himself a payoff.... and this time we're telling the truth, honest." Fucktards. Even if that WAS the case, they deserve shitting on from a great height for putting themselves in the position to be (if you will) blackmailed. This is what happens Mike, this is what happens when you fuck 52,000 strangers in the ass! Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/200...115875-20728679 Legal team on that already? He's been with his legal team from the off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 We still owe on players Jimbo. Aye, but the debt being paid off tells you the money owed on players isn't the handicap they'd have us believe. It's just something to bash the old regime with and use as an excuse for not spending much at all in net terms. I know you weren't sticking up for the board here btw. I still maintain it's the personnel creating the problem here and not the structure though. Well I'm not sure about Keegan's relationship with Wise - I really have no idea. However I think Kevin is right in saying that the manager should be 100% in charge - It scares the living shit out of me that Dennis Wise has more influence than the tea lady at this club - never mind the fucking manager. He's been running the whole show from a phone box in Charing Cross. superb Thats my fucking phone number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7065 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 We still owe on players Jimbo. Aye, but the debt being paid off tells you the money owed on players isn't the handicap they'd have us believe. It's just something to bash the old regime with and use as an excuse for not spending much at all in net terms. I know you weren't sticking up for the board here btw. I still maintain it's the personnel creating the problem here and not the structure though. Well I'm not sure about Keegan's relationship with Wise - I really have no idea. However I think Kevin is right in saying that the manager should be 100% in charge - It scares the living shit out of me that Dennis Wise has more influence than the tea lady at this club - never mind the fucking manager. He's been running the whole show from a phone box in Charing Cross. superb Thats my fucking phone number going straight to voicemail....no mention of services offered. another poorly run business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldstott 0 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 We still owe on players Jimbo. Aye, but the debt being paid off tells you the money owed on players isn't the handicap they'd have us believe. It's just something to bash the old regime with and use as an excuse for not spending much at all in net terms. I know you weren't sticking up for the board here btw. I still maintain it's the personnel creating the problem here and not the structure though. Well I'm not sure about Keegan's relationship with Wise - I really have no idea. However I think Kevin is right in saying that the manager should be 100% in charge - It scares the living shit out of me that Dennis Wise has more influence than the tea lady at this club - never mind the fucking manager. I agree with Alex that the structure can work. The one thing that i read this weekend that struck me as interesting was Keegan's alleged list 'pie in the sky' transfer targets. If KK was in sole charge of player recruuitment, after three years of soccer circus, I'm really not sure whether he would have had the knowledge of who we could realistically hope to bring in to the club. Would he for instance have brought Modric across, he definitely wouldn't have known anything about Guttierez/Bassong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 We still owe on players Jimbo. Aye, but the debt being paid off tells you the money owed on players isn't the handicap they'd have us believe. It's just something to bash the old regime with and use as an excuse for not spending much at all in net terms. I know you weren't sticking up for the board here btw. I still maintain it's the personnel creating the problem here and not the structure though. Well I'm not sure about Keegan's relationship with Wise - I really have no idea. However I think Kevin is right in saying that the manager should be 100% in charge - It scares the living shit out of me that Dennis Wise has more influence than the tea lady at this club - never mind the fucking manager. I agree with Alex that the structure can work. The one thing that i read this weekend that struck me as interesting was Keegan's alleged list 'pie in the sky' transfer targets. If KK was in sole charge of player recruuitment, after three years of soccer circus, I'm really not sure whether he would have had the knowledge of who we could realistically hope to bring in to the club. Would he for instance have brought Modric across, he definitely wouldn't have known anything about Guttierez/Bassong. To be quite honest KK and his 'helpers' had a good 8 months to identify targets. Players (one or two from KK's list and 3/4 from the others) should have been unveiled in early Aug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 We still owe on players Jimbo. Aye, but the debt being paid off tells you the money owed on players isn't the handicap they'd have us believe. It's just something to bash the old regime with and use as an excuse for not spending much at all in net terms. I know you weren't sticking up for the board here btw. I still maintain it's the personnel creating the problem here and not the structure though. Well I'm not sure about Keegan's relationship with Wise - I really have no idea. However I think Kevin is right in saying that the manager should be 100% in charge - It scares the living shit out of me that Dennis Wise has more influence than the tea lady at this club - never mind the fucking manager. I agree with Alex that the structure can work. The one thing that i read this weekend that struck me as interesting was Keegan's alleged list 'pie in the sky' transfer targets. If KK was in sole charge of player recruuitment, after three years of soccer circus, I'm really not sure whether he would have had the knowledge of who we could realistically hope to bring in to the club. Would he for instance have brought Modric across, he definitely wouldn't have known anything about Guttierez/Bassong. It's not about whether the manager has to identify every target, it's about whether the manager has the final say on every target (and who is sold). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7126 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Maybe Xisco wasn't supposed to be a first team player. Yeah, we have a £12 million budget for transfers, and we'll spend £5.7 on someone who isn't even going to be a first team player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 Maybe Xisco wasn't supposed to be a first team player. Yeah, we have a £12 million budget for transfers, and we'll spend £5.7 on someone who isn't even going to be a first team player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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