Park Life 71 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) Well I think it's safe to say he never intended to invest 'his' money in the club and was trying to move toward making the club function as a viable business in it's own right (something which is fine on a level playing field but cloud cuckoo land when your competitors are speculating like wild). He has himself been quoted from time to time making remarks about "You can't make money from Newcastle" etc..But I think deep down that was always his key motivation...I tend to think he got involved in football in a rush without properly examining the core nature of the business. He has been hiding behind the figure of Keegan and he and his cohorts and minions have continued to work away to their own agenda leaving KK out front to field the press, with little information (it seems) about what was really going on. Edited September 2, 2008 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 bit too early for me to feel so analytical but broadly I agree, but he never really understood what he was walking into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I think he's basically a used car salesman that got lucky. Not one ounce of decency. Enjoy that extra few mill Mike. You achieved perfectly fuck all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontoasey 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Time for that rich Indian magnate to step in methinks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 This is the second time KK has been shit on with false promises, and I don't blame KK if he walks again tbh, I never got the bloke Ashley and what he wants out of NUFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flair 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Time for that rich Indian magnate to step in methinks!! Ambani would be good mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flair 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Well I think it's safe to say he never intended to invest 'his' money in the club and was trying to move toward making the club function as a viable business in it's own right (something which is fine on a level playing field but cloud cuckoo land when your competitors are speculating like wild). He has himself been quoted from time to time making remarks about "You can't make money from Newcastle" etc..But I think deep down that was always his key motivation...I tend to think he got involved in football in a rush without properly examining the core nature of the business. He has been hiding behind the figure of Keegan and he and his cohorts and minions have continued to work away to their own agenda leaving KK out front to field the press, with little information (it seems) about what was really going on. Problem is the cok doesn't want to take a profit on the club and sell up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Well I think it's safe to say he never intended to invest 'his' money in the club and was trying to move toward making the club function as a viable business in it's own right (something which is fine on a level playing field but cloud cuckoo land when your competitors are speculating like wild). He has himself been quoted from time to time making remarks about "You can't make money from Newcastle" etc..But I think deep down that was always his key motivation...I tend to think he got involved in football in a rush without properly examining the core nature of the business. He has been hiding behind the figure of Keegan and he and his cohorts and minions have continued to work away to their own agenda leaving KK out front to field the press, with little information (it seems) about what was really going on. Problem is the cok doesn't want to take a profit on the club and sell up. I reckon he'd have taken the money if he'd been able to have made a quick, decent profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Well I think it's safe to say he never intended to invest 'his' money in the club and was trying to move toward making the club function as a viable business in it's own right (something which is fine on a level playing field but cloud cuckoo land when your competitors are speculating like wild). He has himself been quoted from time to time making remarks about "You can't make money from Newcastle" etc..But I think deep down that was always his key motivation...I tend to think he got involved in football in a rush without properly examining the core nature of the business. He has been hiding behind the figure of Keegan and he and his cohorts and minions have continued to work away to their own agenda leaving KK out front to field the press, with little information (it seems) about what was really going on. bit too early for me to feel so analytical but broadly I agree, but he never really understood what he was walking into. That's it for me. He thought he could buy a football club, have a few laughs then sell it on for a tidy profit (probably had some knowledge of middle easterners looking at buying into English football). However, the amount of debt NUFC had really put the kybosh on his plans as he had to spend an awful lot of money to keep his toy a going concern. Once he had ploughed a load into keeping the club afloat, the selling price went drastically upwards if he was going to show a profit. This Abu Dhabi lot were scared off by Ashley's demands. Ashley is now left with something he can't sell for the profit he wanted. True?? Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 I've smoked 2 fukin packets of ciggies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Well I think it's safe to say he never intended to invest 'his' money in the club and was trying to move toward making the club function as a viable business in it's own right (something which is fine on a level playing field but cloud cuckoo land when your competitors are speculating like wild). He has himself been quoted from time to time making remarks about "You can't make money from Newcastle" etc..But I think deep down that was always his key motivation...I tend to think he got involved in football in a rush without properly examining the core nature of the business. He has been hiding behind the figure of Keegan and he and his cohorts and minions have continued to work away to their own agenda leaving KK out front to field the press, with little information (it seems) about what was really going on. bit too early for me to feel so analytical but broadly I agree, but he never really understood what he was walking into. That's it for me. He thought he could buy a football club, have a few laughs then sell it on for a tidy profit (probably had some knowledge of middle easterners looking at buying into English football). However, the amount of debt NUFC had really put the kybosh on his plans as he had to spend an awful lot of money to keep his toy a going concern. Once he had ploughed a load into keeping the club afloat, the selling price went drastically upwards if he was going to show a profit. This Abu Dhabi lot were scared off by Ashley's demands. Ashley is now left with something he can't sell for the profit he wanted. True?? Who knows. Plus he's been hit financially by a few things - the state of the UK economy impacting his business on top of England's failure to qualify for the Euros. There was also that money he lost in the stock exchange (don't know the ins and outs of that tbf) that was meant to be 100s of millions iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Well I think it's safe to say he never intended to invest 'his' money in the club and was trying to move toward making the club function as a viable business in it's own right (something which is fine on a level playing field but cloud cuckoo land when your competitors are speculating like wild). He has himself been quoted from time to time making remarks about "You can't make money from Newcastle" etc..But I think deep down that was always his key motivation...I tend to think he got involved in football in a rush without properly examining the core nature of the business. He has been hiding behind the figure of Keegan and he and his cohorts and minions have continued to work away to their own agenda leaving KK out front to field the press, with little information (it seems) about what was really going on. bit too early for me to feel so analytical but broadly I agree, but he never really understood what he was walking into. That's it for me. He thought he could buy a football club, have a few laughs then sell it on for a tidy profit (probably had some knowledge of middle easterners looking at buying into English football). However, the amount of debt NUFC had really put the kybosh on his plans as he had to spend an awful lot of money to keep his toy a going concern. Once he had ploughed a load into keeping the club afloat, the selling price went drastically upwards if he was going to show a profit. This Abu Dhabi lot were scared off by Ashley's demands. Ashley is now left with something he can't sell for the profit he wanted. True?? Who knows. yes, he didn't do his due diligence, but also - more than that - he didn't know what is involved in running a football club that desires success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I have no clue what Ashley had planned or has planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) Should have sold to Abu Dhabi when he had the chance, whatever the state of football today is, this club needs a lift like they've given Citeh, if he knew the club like KK does, then he would have done for the fans. Edited September 2, 2008 by @yourservice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Well I think it's safe to say he never intended to invest 'his' money in the club and was trying to move toward making the club function as a viable business in it's own right (something which is fine on a level playing field but cloud cuckoo land when your competitors are speculating like wild). He has himself been quoted from time to time making remarks about "You can't make money from Newcastle" etc..But I think deep down that was always his key motivation...I tend to think he got involved in football in a rush without properly examining the core nature of the business. He has been hiding behind the figure of Keegan and he and his cohorts and minions have continued to work away to their own agenda leaving KK out front to field the press, with little information (it seems) about what was really going on. bit too early for me to feel so analytical but broadly I agree, but he never really understood what he was walking into. That's it for me. He thought he could buy a football club, have a few laughs then sell it on for a tidy profit (probably had some knowledge of middle easterners looking at buying into English football). However, the amount of debt NUFC had really put the kybosh on his plans as he had to spend an awful lot of money to keep his toy a going concern. Once he had ploughed a load into keeping the club afloat, the selling price went drastically upwards if he was going to show a profit. This Abu Dhabi lot were scared off by Ashley's demands. Ashley is now left with something he can't sell for the profit he wanted. True?? Who knows. Plus he's been hit financially by a few things - the state of the UK economy impacting his business on top of England's failure to qualify for the Euros. There was also that money he lost in the stock exchange (don't know the ins and outs of that tbf) that was meant to be 100s of millions iirc. The term Due Diligence will forever be rolling around his head. I bet he loses sleep over it Ashley: 'If I had only looked at the books.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Should have sold to Abu Dhabi when he had the chance, whatever the state of football today is, this club needs a lift like they've given Citeh, if he knew the club like KK does, then he would have done for the fans. wish they fuckin had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 I think it was Chez who said very early on that KK had been hired as a distraction and a showpiece type appointment to keep the fans quiet (while he got on with his tricks). Or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) Should have sold to Abu Dhabi when he had the chance, whatever the state of football today is, this club needs a lift like they've given Citeh, if he knew the club like KK does, then he would have done for the fans. wish they fuckin had Well, if there is a multi-billion organisation out there wanting to buy a football club with massive potential now's their chance. I guess Ashley would sell tomorrow if he could just come out evens. EDIT: multi-billion organisation buys NUFC and appoints Kevin Keegan as manager. You heard it here first!!! Edited September 2, 2008 by snakehips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flair 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) I think it was Chez who said very early on that KK had been hired as a distraction and a showpiece type appointment to keep the fans quiet (while he got on with his tricks). Or something like that. What exactly are his tricks and didn't he realise that he would need to sack Keegan at the right time to not get criticism and not dig himself into a hole? Edited September 2, 2008 by Attain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 hope he sells now, he must know he isnt wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1324 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Would we want to buy success though literally throwing money at the club or building on successes and development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Would we want to buy success though literally throwing money at the club or building on successes and development? Either would be preferable to the last few seasons. I'll take either as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) Would we want to buy success though literally throwing money at the club or building on successes and development? Thats the way it is these days tho, quick fix or you get left behind, I'd like to know where the money is? edit: Just found out, it's in the casino Edited September 2, 2008 by @yourservice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4457 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 The thing is from reading about this Man City lot they haven't exactly consulted Hughes about targets - not saying it wouldn't have been fun or better in the long run but a sale to them may have brought the same tensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Should have sold to Abu Dhabi when he had the chance, whatever the state of football today is, this club needs a lift like they've given Citeh, if he knew the club like KK does, then he would have done for the fans. wish they fuckin had Well, if there is a multi-billion organisation out there wanting to buy a football club with massive potential now's their chance. I guess Ashley would sell tomorrow if he could just come out evens. EDIT: multi-billion organisation buys NUFC and appoints Kevin Keegan as manager. You heard it here first!!! ha. great idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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