Guest alex Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. And it was calculated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. And it was calculated. Calculated to do what though? Undermine the man he'd just appointed? I think it's more a case of Ashley being clueless about running a football club, about KK and about NUFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6459 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 The Wise appointment baffled me. Who advised Ashley it was a good idea??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. And it was calculated. Calculated to do what though? Undermine the man he'd just appointed? I think it's more a case of Ashley being clueless about running a football club, about KK and about NUFC. Wise imo was bought in to keep an eye on KK and report to Ashley (who's never there by all accounts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. And it was calculated. Calculated to do what though? Undermine the man he'd just appointed? I think it's more a case of Ashley being clueless about running a football club, about KK and about NUFC. Wise imo was bought in to keep an eye on KK and report to Ashley (who's never there by all accounts). what from london??!!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 The Wise appointment baffled me. Who advised Ashley it was a good idea??? Apparently Ashley really likes him and they have mutual friends in London or whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. And it was calculated. Calculated to do what though? Undermine the man he'd just appointed? I think it's more a case of Ashley being clueless about running a football club, about KK and about NUFC. Wise imo was bought in to keep an eye on KK and report to Ashley (who's never there by all accounts). what from london??!!!?? The decisions are being made in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. Yeah but to be honest all he appears to have done is make a bad business decision, he has to appoint a chairman and thinks "bollocks Ill stick with someone I know, Decka did wonders with the casinos and hes a good laugh down the pub he'll be great at it oh and hold on I need someone with good knowledge of the game as well and that little cunt Dennis owes me a favour after the plumbing on the Tenerife timeshares went tits up so he can do it" Now in hindsight he must be realising that a football club isnt the same as a shop selling cheap makem shirts and you cant just stick to the same business model. Ashley will be judged on how he handles this crisis. If he comes out of this with some sensible decisions then maybe he can turn it round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. And it was calculated. Calculated to do what though? Undermine the man he'd just appointed? I think it's more a case of Ashley being clueless about running a football club, about KK and about NUFC. Wise imo was bought in to keep an eye on KK and report to Ashley (who's never there by all accounts). Aye, fair enough. Great idea like. An ambitious, snide little cunt more bothered about running the club himself than helping KK in any way. Like HM asks - who thought that was a good idea? I can guess like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. Yeah but to be honest all he appears to have done is make a bad business decision, he has to appoint a chairman and thinks "bollocks Ill stick with someone I know, Decka did wonders with the casinos and hes a good laugh down the pub he'll be great at it oh and hold on I need someone with good knowledge of the game as well and that little cunt Dennis owes me a favour after the plumbing on the Tenerife timeshares went tits up so he can do it" Now in hindsight he must be realising that a football club isnt the same as a shop selling cheap makem shirts and you cant just stick to the same business model. Ashley will be judged on how he handles this crisis. If he comes out of this with some sensible decisions then maybe he can turn it round. Aye, if he turn it round, well done him. It's still his fault though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. Yeah but to be honest all he appears to have done is make a bad business decision, he has to appoint a chairman and thinks "bollocks Ill stick with someone I know, Decka did wonders with the casinos and hes a good laugh down the pub he'll be great at it oh and hold on I need someone with good knowledge of the game as well and that little cunt Dennis owes me a favour after the plumbing on the Tenerife timeshares went tits up so he can do it" Now in hindsight he must be realising that a football club isnt the same as a shop selling cheap makem shirts and you cant just stick to the same business model. Ashley will be judged on how he handles this crisis. If he comes out of this with some sensible decisions then maybe he can turn it round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. Yeah but to be honest all he appears to have done is make a bad business decision, he has to appoint a chairman and thinks "bollocks Ill stick with someone I know, Decka did wonders with the casinos and hes a good laugh down the pub he'll be great at it oh and hold on I need someone with good knowledge of the game as well and that little cunt Dennis owes me a favour after the plumbing on the Tenerife timeshares went tits up so he can do it" Now in hindsight he must be realising that a football club isnt the same as a shop selling cheap makem shirts and you cant just stick to the same business model. Ashley will be judged on how he handles this crisis. If he comes out of this with some sensible decisions then maybe he can turn it round. Aye, if he turn it round, well done him. It's still his fault though. Its his fault for appointing the people he has, I agree that totally and I also agree the buck stops with him as overall owner. But the current mess appears to have been caused by Wise and Lambretta. The heads that need to roll are theirs, nothing will be sorted properly while they are there. We call for MA to fuck off but technically that could happen by him selling up to Lambrusco and Wise, would that be a good outcome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 If what the papers are saying is true and KK is saying its either me or them what do you think ashely is really going to do?? If he wants a long term with this club he should be side by side with KK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 i still think it's funny , the clubs in chaosit's his millions invested the fans who spend the money are going mental ....and ashley is off on holiday if it was me i'd frankly return to sort the mess out "if ya want something done right" etc since when Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2930 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 REDKNAPP URGES KEEGAN TO WALK AWAY By Mauro Galluzzo PORTSMOUTH manager Harry Redknapp has urged Kevin Keegan to walk away from Newcastle United. Newcastle today confirmed that talks between manager Kevin Keegan and the club are ongoing - but denied they had parted company. However Redknapp suspects Keegan’s second spell at St James’ Park is over. He said: “He’s a proud man and if he feels he’s been undermined then he must make a decision over his future. “Pride’s at stake and if he feels he’s not been treated with the respect he deserves then he’ll have to walk.” Redknapp admitted he was surprised by the rapid deterioration of Keegan’s relationship with the club following reported clashes over Newcastle’s transfer policy. He added: “The owner’s a nice guy who has put his money in and bought the club. “So is Kevin - he’s a popular and passionate guy and everyone loves him.” daily express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Is he on holiday??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. Yeah but to be honest all he appears to have done is make a bad business decision, he has to appoint a chairman and thinks "bollocks Ill stick with someone I know, Decka did wonders with the casinos and hes a good laugh down the pub he'll be great at it oh and hold on I need someone with good knowledge of the game as well and that little cunt Dennis owes me a favour after the plumbing on the Tenerife timeshares went tits up so he can do it" Now in hindsight he must be realising that a football club isnt the same as a shop selling cheap makem shirts and you cant just stick to the same business model. Ashley will be judged on how he handles this crisis. If he comes out of this with some sensible decisions then maybe he can turn it round. Aye, if he turn it round, well done him. It's still his fault though. Its his fault for appointing the people he has, I agree that totally and I also agree the buck stops with him as overall owner. But the current mess appears to have been caused by Wise and Lambretta. The heads that need to roll are theirs, nothing will be sorted properly while they are there. We call for MA to fuck off but technically that could happen by him selling up to Lambrusco and Wise, would that be a good outcome? I'm not calling for that. He's the owner anyway so it's a daft thing for people to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30175 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Is he on holiday??!! Overseas on business. It's just that that business involves Thai hookers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey 0 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 REDKNAPP URGES KEEGAN TO WALK AWAY By Mauro Galluzzo PORTSMOUTH manager Harry Redknapp has urged Kevin Keegan to walk away from Newcastle United. Newcastle today confirmed that talks between manager Kevin Keegan and the club are ongoing - but denied they had parted company. However Redknapp suspects Keegan’s second spell at St James’ Park is over. He said: “He’s a proud man and if he feels he’s been undermined then he must make a decision over his future. “Pride’s at stake and if he feels he’s not been treated with the respect he deserves then he’ll have to walk.” Redknapp admitted he was surprised by the rapid deterioration of Keegan’s relationship with the club following reported clashes over Newcastle’s transfer policy. He added: “The owner’s a nice guy who has put his money in and bought the club. “So is Kevin - he’s a popular and passionate guy and everyone loves him.” Cheers for that, ya droopy faced twatbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themags 0 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 REDKNAPP URGES KEEGAN TO WALK AWAY By Mauro Galluzzo PORTSMOUTH manager Harry Redknapp has urged Kevin Keegan to walk away from Newcastle United. Newcastle today confirmed that talks between manager Kevin Keegan and the club are ongoing - but denied they had parted company. However Redknapp suspects Keegan’s second spell at St James’ Park is over. He said: “He’s a proud man and if he feels he’s been undermined then he must make a decision over his future. “Pride’s at stake and if he feels he’s not been treated with the respect he deserves then he’ll have to walk.” Redknapp admitted he was surprised by the rapid deterioration of Keegan’s relationship with the club following reported clashes over Newcastle’s transfer policy. He added: “The owner’s a nice guy who has put his money in and bought the club. “So is Kevin - he’s a popular and passionate guy and everyone loves him.” daily express Does Harry want us to sack another manager, so we can be linked with him in the press and he score himself another pay raise? ................tosser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Not that I like the twat or anything but he isn't actually urging Keegan to leave, is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9692 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. And it was calculated. Calculated to do what though? Undermine the man he'd just appointed? I think it's more a case of Ashley being clueless about running a football club, about KK and about NUFC. I don't think he is totally clueless about running the club. As others have said it, he just got it totally wrong by appointing the wrong people (bar Keegan). The structure isn't bad per se. It would be alright if the people were working within the limits they allegedly were supposed to do according to the job description for the public. For example, it isn't that bad to relieve the manager (Keegan) from some business duties as long as he has the final say on matters like transfers and contract within the financial limits. Ashley probably isn't lying when he says that he bought the club to enjoy it as a football fan. It is his weekend plaything. That's why he isn't directly involved in the daily running of it and concentrating on his other business stuff. Shame that he unlike Abramowitch couldn't appoint the right people. He has no Peter Kenyon with vast experience who he can rely to. He has Labiarse. Wise isn't used to his role either. That's why those probably thought without Ashley running the club himself they can do things as they want to and gradually pushing Keegan out of things. It's just guesswork from, but if things are like this then the situation would easily resolved by getting rid of those who aren't up to their job and appoint people who have a clue and are actually caring (like in the past). The latter is probably a problem as well. I can't see for example Wise and Labiarse working on things with a fraction of enthusiasm like Shepherd did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Not that I like the twat or anything but he isn't actually urging Keegan to leave, is he? Anything but tbh all you can find in that article is He said: “He’s a proud man and if he feels he’s been undermined then he must make a decision over his future. Not exactly urging him to jack it all in like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why is it that Ashleys getting the brunt of the abuse here? You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. And it was calculated. Calculated to do what though? Undermine the man he'd just appointed? I think it's more a case of Ashley being clueless about running a football club, about KK and about NUFC. I don't think he is totally clueless about running the club. As others have said it, he just got it totally wrong by appointing the wrong people (bar Keegan). The structure isn't bad per se. It would be alright if the people were working within the limits they allegedly were supposed to do according to the job description for the public. For example, it isn't that bad to relieve the manager (Keegan) from some business duties as long as he has the final say on matters like transfers and contract within the financial limits. Ashley probably isn't lying when he says that he bought the club to enjoy it as a football fan. It is his weekend plaything. That's why he isn't directly involved in the daily running of it and concentrating on his other business stuff. Shame that he unlike Abramowitch couldn't appoint the right people. He has no Peter Kenyon with vast experience who he can rely to. He has Labiarse. Wise isn't used to his role either. That's why those probably thought without Ashley running the club himself they can do things as they want to and gradually pushing Keegan out of things. It's just guesswork from, but if things are like this then the situation would easily resolved by getting rid of those who aren't up to their job and appoint people who have a clue and are actually caring (like in the past). The latter is probably a problem as well. I can't see for example Wise and Labiarse working on things with a fraction of enthusiasm like Shepherd did. Fair comment that. I don't disagree with the structure either and I think Keegan knew about it when he was appointed. He didn't know about the personnel though and, as you allude to, they are the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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