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Blackwater Guards Fired at Fleeing Cars, Soldiers Say

First U.S. Troops on Scene Found No Evidence of Shooting by Iraqis; Incident Called 'Criminal'

By Sudarsan Raghavan and Josh White

Washington Post Foreign Service

Friday, October 12, 2007; Page A01

 

BAGHDAD, Oct. 11 -- Blackwater USA guards shot at Iraqi civilians as they tried to drive away from a Baghdad square on Sept. 16, according to a report compiled by the first U.S. soldiers to arrive at the scene, where they found no evidence that Iraqis had fired weapons.

 

"It appeared to me they were fleeing the scene when they were engaged. It had every indication of an excessive shooting," said Lt. Col. Mike Tarsa, whose soldiers reached Nisoor Square 20 to 25 minutes after the gunfire subsided.

 

His soldiers' report -- based upon their observations at the scene, eyewitness interviews and discussions with Iraqi police -- concluded that there was "no enemy activity involved" and described the shootings as a "criminal event." Their conclusions mirrored those reached by the Iraqi government, which has said the Blackwater guards killed 17 people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7101101030.html

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Blackwater killings 'broke rules'

By Jonathan Beale

BBC News, Washington

 

 

Blackwater is accused of the unjustified killing of Iraqi civilians

The killings of at least 14 Iraqi civilians by guards from the security firm Blackwater were unjustified, FBI officials have told the New York Times.

 

The officials are investigating the 16 September incident in which 17 Iraqis were shot by Blackwater staff guarding State Department employees.

 

The revelations come as the US State Department's inspector-general admits his brother is linked to Blackwater.

 

The official admitted the link while giving evidence to Congress.

 

Members of Congress are conducting an investigation into the activities of private security firms like Blackwater."

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7095764.stm

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ton, Bechtel, Triple canopy, Brown and Root...

 

Over a 100,000 mercenary forces now roam the streets of Iraq, with no rules of engagement, no oversight and burning billions of dollars a year of U.S. taxpayer money.

 

The biggest and ongoing war crime of the modern age?

 

 

http://iraqforsale.org/

 

To make up for my earlier petulance, Bremer gets a hell of a roasting in the documentary No End in Sight. Well worth a watch.

 

http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...mp;#entry444758

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ton, Bechtel, Triple canopy, Brown and Root...

 

Over a 100,000 mercenary forces now roam the streets of Iraq, with no rules of engagement, no oversight and burning billions of dollars a year of U.S. taxpayer money.

 

The biggest and ongoing war crime of the modern age?

 

 

http://iraqforsale.org/

 

To make up for my earlier petulance, Bremer gets a hell of a roasting in the documentary No End in Sight. Well worth a watch.

 

http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...mp;#entry444758

;)

 

 

 

The other 'war criminal' is Negroponte the former 'Butcher of El Salvdorian death squad fame'. How the fuck were these people running Iraq policy?

 

Civilian body counts...

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/world/mi...casualties.html

 

"The World Health Organization said its study, based on interviews with families, indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died. It based its estimate of 151,000 deaths on that range."

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Of course, no charges have been laid against Blackwater people.

 

Accountability:

We act ethically and legally as we work to meet our contractual commitments. We take responsibility for our behavior and our performance. We are accountable everyday. We support quality assurance and personal discipline in all our endeavors.

 

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/company_profi...ore_values.html

 

;)

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indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died

 

;)

 

What?

I think that's what he meant.

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indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died

 

;)

 

What?

I think that's what he meant.

 

He didn't read the article basically.

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indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died

 

;)

 

What?

I think that's what he meant.

 

Its just a stupid statement, they are 95percent certain that they arent certain how many people have died

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Of course, no charges have been laid against Blackwater people.

 

Accountability:

We act ethically and legally as we work to meet our contractual commitments. We take responsibility for our behavior and our performance. We are accountable everyday. We support quality assurance and personal discipline in all our endeavors.

 

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/company_profi...ore_values.html

 

;)

 

Not one mercenary convicted of any crime.

 

I said a few years ago that war logistics embedded companies would would drive American foreign policy for chaos and profit, what I didn't realise is that they would have their own armies as well. :icon_lol:

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indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died

 

;)

 

What?

I think that's what he meant.

 

He didn't read the article basically.

Neither did I. You can still pick holes in that statement though. Very easily.

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indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died

 

;)

 

What?

I think that's what he meant.

 

Its just a stupid statement, they are 95percent certain that they arent certain how many people have died

 

American military is on purpose not keeping a civilian body count, hence the accuracy issues.

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indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died

 

;)

 

What?

 

It's pretty vague, even if you ignore how the data was collected.

 

It's a bit like saying you have 95% certainty there were some bees in your garden then deciding to pick 5 as the number to publish.

 

 

 

Which is the big problem with all estimates in Iraq, no one really knew how many died in the Iran/Iraq war, or in the Kuwait war, no one knew how many Saddam bumped off directly, no one knew how many sanctions and such killed indirectly.

 

And no one knows how many or who killed who in what has been a 4 (or 5 if you count private companies too) way civil war.

 

It's just a big mess.

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indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died

 

;)

 

What?

I think that's what he meant.

 

Its just a stupid statement, they are 95percent certain that they arent certain how many people have died

 

 

You never did standard deviation and variance at school?

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