Park Life 71 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 ton, Bechtel, Triple canopy, Brown and Root... Over a 100,000 mercenary forces now roam the streets of Iraq, with no rules of engagement, no oversight and burning billions of dollars a year of U.S. taxpayer money. The biggest and ongoing war crime of the modern age? http://iraqforsale.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 Blackwater Guards Fired at Fleeing Cars, Soldiers Say First U.S. Troops on Scene Found No Evidence of Shooting by Iraqis; Incident Called 'Criminal' By Sudarsan Raghavan and Josh White Washington Post Foreign Service Friday, October 12, 2007; Page A01 BAGHDAD, Oct. 11 -- Blackwater USA guards shot at Iraqi civilians as they tried to drive away from a Baghdad square on Sept. 16, according to a report compiled by the first U.S. soldiers to arrive at the scene, where they found no evidence that Iraqis had fired weapons. "It appeared to me they were fleeing the scene when they were engaged. It had every indication of an excessive shooting," said Lt. Col. Mike Tarsa, whose soldiers reached Nisoor Square 20 to 25 minutes after the gunfire subsided. His soldiers' report -- based upon their observations at the scene, eyewitness interviews and discussions with Iraqi police -- concluded that there was "no enemy activity involved" and described the shootings as a "criminal event." Their conclusions mirrored those reached by the Iraqi government, which has said the Blackwater guards killed 17 people. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7101101030.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 Blackwater killings 'broke rules' By Jonathan Beale BBC News, Washington Blackwater is accused of the unjustified killing of Iraqi civilians The killings of at least 14 Iraqi civilians by guards from the security firm Blackwater were unjustified, FBI officials have told the New York Times. The officials are investigating the 16 September incident in which 17 Iraqis were shot by Blackwater staff guarding State Department employees. The revelations come as the US State Department's inspector-general admits his brother is linked to Blackwater. The official admitted the link while giving evidence to Congress. Members of Congress are conducting an investigation into the activities of private security firms like Blackwater." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7095764.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Topical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 Topical Sorry couldn't find a report on the specific slaughter of civilians today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Topical Like Lilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 ton, Bechtel, Triple canopy, Brown and Root... Over a 100,000 mercenary forces now roam the streets of Iraq, with no rules of engagement, no oversight and burning billions of dollars a year of U.S. taxpayer money. The biggest and ongoing war crime of the modern age? http://iraqforsale.org/ To make up for my earlier petulance, Bremer gets a hell of a roasting in the documentary No End in Sight. Well worth a watch. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...mp;#entry444758 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 (edited) ton, Bechtel, Triple canopy, Brown and Root... Over a 100,000 mercenary forces now roam the streets of Iraq, with no rules of engagement, no oversight and burning billions of dollars a year of U.S. taxpayer money. The biggest and ongoing war crime of the modern age? http://iraqforsale.org/ To make up for my earlier petulance, Bremer gets a hell of a roasting in the documentary No End in Sight. Well worth a watch. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...mp;#entry444758 The other 'war criminal' is Negroponte the former 'Butcher of El Salvdorian death squad fame'. How the fuck were these people running Iraq policy? Civilian body counts... http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/world/mi...casualties.html "The World Health Organization said its study, based on interviews with families, indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died. It based its estimate of 151,000 deaths on that range." Edited August 26, 2008 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7310 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Of course, no charges have been laid against Blackwater people. Accountability:We act ethically and legally as we work to meet our contractual commitments. We take responsibility for our behavior and our performance. We are accountable everyday. We support quality assurance and personal discipline in all our endeavors. http://www.blackwaterusa.com/company_profi...ore_values.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died What? I think that's what he meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I wonder if The World Health Organization can get me a quote on a boiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died What? I think that's what he meant. He didn't read the article basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7310 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died What? I think that's what he meant. Its just a stupid statement, they are 95percent certain that they arent certain how many people have died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 Of course, no charges have been laid against Blackwater people. Accountability:We act ethically and legally as we work to meet our contractual commitments. We take responsibility for our behavior and our performance. We are accountable everyday. We support quality assurance and personal discipline in all our endeavors. http://www.blackwaterusa.com/company_profi...ore_values.html Not one mercenary convicted of any crime. I said a few years ago that war logistics embedded companies would would drive American foreign policy for chaos and profit, what I didn't realise is that they would have their own armies as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died What? I think that's what he meant. He didn't read the article basically. Neither did I. You can still pick holes in that statement though. Very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died What? I think that's what he meant. Its just a stupid statement, they are 95percent certain that they arent certain how many people have died American military is on purpose not keeping a civilian body count, hence the accuracy issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died What? It's pretty vague, even if you ignore how the data was collected. It's a bit like saying you have 95% certainty there were some bees in your garden then deciding to pick 5 as the number to publish. Which is the big problem with all estimates in Iraq, no one really knew how many died in the Iran/Iraq war, or in the Kuwait war, no one knew how many Saddam bumped off directly, no one knew how many sanctions and such killed indirectly. And no one knows how many or who killed who in what has been a 4 (or 5 if you count private companies too) way civil war. It's just a big mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 indicated with a 95 percent degree of statistical certainty that between 104,000 and 223,000 civilians had died What? I think that's what he meant. Its just a stupid statement, they are 95percent certain that they arent certain how many people have died You never did standard deviation and variance at school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7310 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Are you this much fun in real life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 The best thing about this subject is that none of this has been discussed on here or on other message boards before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Are you this much fun in real life? I D.A.R.E. mutha fucka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7310 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Its all good and well highlighting what is happening but unless you are proactive in doing something about it its pretty pointless taking the moral high ground Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7310 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Are you this much fun in real life? I D.A.R.E. mutha fucka. That doesnt even make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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