gpirlo68 0 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 You could have used that post, albeit with different players, at any point in the last 4 years and it would have fit. Ashley's doing the club no favours, he's helping his cronies and leeching this club to death. yes it was good what he did straight after buying , but that was just to stabilise us financially and have a platform to build his business brands on. Which he has done magnificently , its selling lots of his brands. Cronies? He gets free advertising for SD but he doesn't even take a salary from the club. The salary that the Halls/Shephards took was horrific He's made many, many mistakes but he isn't leeching the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35913 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 If you don't despise Ashley you might as well start supporting Sunderland tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 His wealth quadrupling during his ownership will have been unrelated I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 OMG people defending Ashley. I'm shocked, seriously I am. Cronies means his mates GPirlo, he's defo doing that, they've got salaries - I didn't know that Ashley didn't take a salary and find it hard to believe tbh. He gets free advertising for SD - has stolen the retail arm - do you have any idea how much this is worth if it was a salary? I'd rather the fucker took a salary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Hughton was a fuckin lucky appointment. Good bloke, good coach, got the defence organised and got on with influential personalities in the side, exactly what we needed at the time. But there's no chance they identified all those qualities at the time. Pure luck. Scoobos I admire your loyalty to mclaren but, as someone who has been sticking up for him longer than most, I have to admit he is tanking now. That said, wouldn't be that surprised to see us beat Bournemouth convincingly tomorrow a la west ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Gpirlo you can't be serious. Ashley has rinsed this football club, there's nothing left of what it was or once threatened to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 34422 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Unpopular opinion here but I don't necessarily want Ashley out People will disagree but he bought this football club to make it successful, yes he wanted to promote sports direct but to a certain extent I don't mind that Ashley has consistently put his money into the wrong people and that's we are where we are in the league. If Ashley brought in a top manager (Moyes for example) let him have full control over transfers then I wouldn't have a problem with Ashley at all. The problem is that he doesn't trust the manager, but has a ridiculous amount of trust in Charnley and Carr. Fuck me. He does have trust in Charnley. He trusts Charnley to DO AS HE'S FUCKING TELT. Charnley is a fucking gimp, man. He has a parameter set by Ashley and knows he's out of the best scenario he'll ever have if he goes out of it. He also knows he's the scapegoat if we go down along with McClaren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 We're about 14 hours from seeing his team sheet if he plays one up top he can sod off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31586 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Ashley has consistently put his money into the wrong people. What money is that then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47044 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Ashley is the root cause of every problem at the club. If you don't see that by this stage, it's a wonder you can get dressed in the morning. It does make you wonder whether the ground is filled each week with people of the same opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Your right Gem Ashley is the problem, even if he sacked McClaren tomorrow it won't make any difference Ashley would still be there his replacement would be somebody similar a yes man. The 2 people who imho were the right fit were either sacked (Hughton) or undermined (Keegan) again the same 2 guys weren't yes men. But I'm fairly certain we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now had either of those 2 still been in charge. I've never wanted McClaren as manager it looks like the fans are turning against McClaren & Ashley will be laughing his dick off. Because like Pardew& Carver, McClaren will be the main target for abuse not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I'm pretty sure, at least, that Ashley won't be amused by our current plight. It's potentially going to cost him a lot of money. Also, I reckon Ashley, in his own mind, believes he's trying to make us a success. The thing is, he's an incredibly poor judge of character/ability. I mean, a few months ago he handed his dipshit son in law/daughter's boyfriend something like £250m to build up a property portfolio; he's had Charnley running the club for ages, and actually thought rehiring Kinnear would be a good idea. He's one of those people who got to the top, I would argue, almost accidentally. Because it sure as shit can't have been based on good judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I never realised we've had 10 managers in just under the 9 years Ashley bought the club (May 2007). Out of those 9 years Pardew was in charge for 4 years so that makes it 9 managers in less then 5 years. I'm all for change but it hardly breeds stability, anyway based on those figures it looks like McClaren's time has come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpirlo68 0 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 What money is that then? I mean the club's money, the 80m we have spent this season. I think I worded everything I meant terribly I apologise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpirlo68 0 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I'm pretty sure, at least, that Ashley won't be amused by our current plight. It's potentially going to cost him a lot of money. Also, I reckon Ashley, in his own mind, believes he's trying to make us a success. The thing is, he's an incredibly poor judge of character/ability. I mean, a few months ago he handed his dipshit son in law/daughter's boyfriend something like £250m to build up a property portfolio; he's had Charnley running the club for ages, and actually thought rehiring Kinnear would be a good idea. He's one of those people who got to the top, I would argue, almost accidentally. Because it sure as shit can't have been based on good judgement. That's almost what I tried to say, but I worded it all wrong (and looked a bit of a twat!) I do believe that Ashley wants this football club to be successful and I don't believe just for financial reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 34422 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Ashley is the root cause of every problem at the club. If you don't see that by this stage, it's a wonder you can get dressed in the morning. It does make you wonder whether the ground is filled each week with people of the same opinion though.Fucking divvies getting offended by people outside the gallowgate protesting last season. Enjoy your second Ashley relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31586 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 If McClaren had anything about him he'd walk now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 34422 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 If McClaren had anything about him he'd walk now.He's working for Charnley but ultimately Ashley therefore he obviously has nothing about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4370 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Maybe if we put the players on the board it'd solve our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1280 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Someone tell me when he's gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21467 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Someone tell me when he's gone I cannot see him being sacked at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1280 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I cannot see him being sacked at allCan't see me bothering to watch us again while he's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4920 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 He's gone now like. Once the crowd turns like that there's no coming back. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Thank God for that training camp for him to whip them into shape for this fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7095 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 La Mangled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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