Rayvin 5189 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I hate that expression as well. It's utterly meaningless as the players clearly don't take it on board and therefore it exists merely as something to placate the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21868 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 If they're cup finals like our two no shows in the 90s, I'd rather they didn't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Club deserves this. What the fuck were they doing offering this uselsss cunt this job THREE TIMES? Appalling incompetence. If Charnley and Carr picked him then they need to fuck off as well like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Whitehurst 894 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 He might be a good coach (allegedly) but he's tactically inept and a terrible tactician. I can't remember one game this season (perhaps Spurs away) where I thought he got his tactics right. He's also incapable of changing things halfway through a match. I suppose it's difficult to have a plan B when you don't have a plan A.  He has to go whether we stay up or not. He's had 26 games with little or no sign of improvement. It's not like this is a blip either, he failed in all but one (FC Twente) of his last 6 managerial roles. We've spent £80m on players yet we still refuse to spend money on a proper manager. It's like buying a FTSE 100 company and installing Barry Chuckle as CEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I imagine Charnley is currently hiding under his desk drenched in sweat. If there is a decisive decision to be made we can all be confident that the man will completely shirk his responsibility. Â I would have been on the phone to Moyes' agent after the second goal offering him till the end of the season and a big bonus if he keeps us up, if he agreed I'd have sacked McClaren as soon as the game finished. The man is clearly an assistant manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30395 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 We've scored less goals away from home than any other team in English league football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 But looked better doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2956 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Â His reaction when their fifth went in was disgusting too. Pure filth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Exactly, we play some alright stuff at an average of about every one half in every 3 games so that makes it alright in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30395 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Â Pure filth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4194 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I doubt that they would offer a bloke a job three times, give him a place on the board and then sack him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpossiblyDaft 1 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Also 80 millions is bog all really when taking in context with previous years of minimal outlay.  It's a case of having to balance out underinvestment, sure, but £80m properly spent is a tonne of money. Spent in a mix of "this guy becomes worth £50m on Football Manager!" and "holy shit holy shit DO SOMETHING!", even £800m wouldn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just been looking by the time we play Stoke, both Sunderland & Norwich will have played 2 games each we could well be cut adrift by then. Then to see that twat with a grin like a Cheshire cat after we've been frashed 5-1 makes you sick. The thing is he'll never be sacked as yet again he's another one of Ashley's puppets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4194 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016  It's a case of having to balance out underinvestment, sure, but £80m properly spent is a tonne of money. Spent in a mix of "this guy becomes worth £50m on Football Manager!" and "holy shit holy shit DO SOMETHING!", even £800m wouldn't help. Sorry, I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydnator 45 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Just been looking by the time we play Stoke, both Sunderland & Norwich will have played 2 games each we could well be cut adrift by then. Then to see that twat with a grin like a Cheshire cat after we've been frashed 5-1 makes you sick. The thing is he'll never be sacked as yet again he's another one of Ashley's puppetsWill we not just have one game in hand? The Man City game? Which we'll get nothing from anyway? Edited February 13, 2016 by Haydnator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30395 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Â Pure filth. By pure coincidence this episode of IASIP has just come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13842 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Scrape survival, Ian Cathro in charge in August. I might put a shiny pound on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Well as someone who has been sticking up for McClaren I have to admit that 2/3rds of the way through the season we should be seeing some signs or improvement away from home, as whatever messages he is trying to get across to the players should be sinking in and we should be seeing some evidence of it. My support for him is based less on any belief that he's the manager the club really needs (his record suggests he is almost certainly not), but more on the belief that he should be given time, especially as I would say we've been playing better football, by and large, than we have for quite a few years. After a performance like that last night though it's impossible to defend him. He is not the cause of the current situation, we all know that. We have seen enough of these howkings over the last 4-5 years under Pards and Carver to know that, but you have to have serious doubts about whether he's capable of getting rid of the losing surrendering mentality that seems to be so deeply ingrained in the club. Â I am not saying I now want him sacked immediately, because it still boils down to the two issues that it always has since Keegan left in 2008: 1) would any better manager be willing to come and work under Ashley, and 2) if they would be willing, would Charnley or whoever it is that makes these decisions be capable of picking the best candidate. If the fact that we've spent a canny bit in recent transfer windows would convince better managers that we've got a bit more ambition now, we should probably be looking to replace McLaren straight away. If Moyes was willing to come he should be given the job tomorrow with a massive bonus if he keeps us up and a guarantee about summer transfer budget, to give him these next two weeks to work with the squad. I suppose what I am saying is that although I think McLaren was probably the best we could have hoped for when we appointed him, he may not be now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32888 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Â Happy birthday to the Messiah, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4723 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Happy birthday to the Messiah, BTW. Aw thanks buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32888 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Aw thanks buddy  You win the best shared birthday with someone famous award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4723 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Â You win the best shared birthday with someone famous award. Birthday top dog award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 It's not like keeping him improves anything so might as well let him go. Get a new manager in after the Man City game because we are sure to lose that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7011 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 That picture does make you worry. If he swans into the dressing room after the game with a smile like that on his face what sort of example is that setting to the players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 That picture does make you worry. If he swans into the dressing room after the game with a smile like that on his face what sort of example is that setting to the players? Aye, I never saw the interview so no idea what prompted his shit eating grin/laugh. I don't understand how he could be anything other than furious in the immediate aftermath, unless he's not that bothered? I'd happily forgive him if this was a blip but the fact is we've been rank most of the season so he can't write this one off and smile about it. I'm at the point where I can't see what keeping him does, he hasn't had any impact on the players in two thirds of a season other than them being capable of passing the ball about a bit once every 4 games or so. The argument some make of who would we get is of course warranted as Ashley's track record is complete shit tbh, that's down to Ashley though and if he was motivated to go out and get a capable manager like David Moyes I'm sure he would come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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