Steve McClaren sacked as Newcastle United 'Head Coach' (Manager)

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HF, if you have the data to hand in your crypt of stats (and yes I imagine it has a hammer horror type creaking door). What is McLarens record at the clubs he's been at in last few years compared to the previous incumbent at those clubs ??

 

I think that would be a more appropriate comparison than Boro from 10+ years ago. What effect, good or bad, did Schteve have on clubs he was retained by.

 

 

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Good stuff HF, you do have a stats crypt don't you

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Good stuff HF, you do have a stats crypt don't you

 

Statto.com is a godsend.

 

I was devastated when F365 removed all their stats, hope statto don't follow suit.

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46% more wins at Derby will roughly equate to 174% more wins thanks to our recent runs of form.

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I suspect McClaren has integrity. In which case he won't come or he'll fuck off fairly sharpish.

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McClaren 'getting a war chest' to spend according to the North East's premier sports writer, Lee Ryder.

 

 

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Who's chest? Wor chest.

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A war chest to hand over to Charnley,Carr and Carver ?

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McClaren 'getting a war chest' to spend according to the North East's premier sports writer, Lee Ryder.

 

 

Lost in translation

 

War chest

 

 

Wor chest

 

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McClaren 'getting a war chest' to spend according to the North East's premier sports writer, Lee Ryder.

 

 

That bloke is absolutely ridiculous. I think I preferred it when he was Renegade Ryder, railing against injustice at the club. It is utterly pathetic how quickly he's been snapped back into line by Wendy.

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That bloke is absolutely ridiculous. I think I preferred it when he was Renegade Ryder, railing against injustice at the club. It is utterly pathetic how quickly he's been snapped back into line by Wendy.

At least he stopped doing the podcasts where he spent 90% of the time explaining how he was not a club mouthpiece.

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McLaren - not an appointment I'm creaming mesel over.

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So what type of football can we expect from McLaren? What's his style / philosophy?

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We can expect football. That in itself is a big improvement.

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At Derby he said

 

 

"What we are trying to set out to do here is something a little bit like the Swansea, Norwich and Southampton model – clubs that have come up playing football the right way."

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McLaren - not an appointment I'm creaming mesel over.

 

Aye but are you happy with Advocaat?

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They all love Dick.

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Aye but are you happy with Advocaat?

Why would I care who those tramps appoint?

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From the North East best writer, Northern Echo

 

S he sits on his holiday lounger pondering his impending appointment as Newcastle head coach, Steve McClaren must be cursing this week’s public flirtation between the Magpies and Patrick Vieira.

Prior to news of Vieira’s brief candidature breaking on Saturday night, most Newcastle supporters had grudgingly accepted that McClaren was an improvement on John Carver, whose elevation to a permanent position was still a distinct possibility in the final weeks of the season.

Now, though, with Vieira’s installation into the St James’ Park hot seat having been floated as a tantalising possibility, the former Middlesbrough and England boss feels like a retrograde step. From a French World Cup winner to the ‘Wally with the Brolly’ in the space of a couple of days. Framed like that, it is little wonder that confirmation of McClaren’s appointment is unlikely to be met with too much approval if, as expected, it arrives at the start of next week.

Posited against Vieira, and even the likes of Remi Garde, Michael Laudrup and Ronald de Boer, who have also been linked with the Newcastle job, McClaren feels like yet another uninspired decision from the Newcastle board. It should not be catastrophic, in the way that the unfathomable appointment of Joe Kinnear was, but it has already been portrayed as both safe and uninspiring.

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McClaren was a disaster during his time in charge of England, failed in the Bundesliga with Wolfsburg and was unable to lead either Nottingham Forest or Derby County to promotion from the second tier. Yet to suggest that he is an unappealing candidate is unfair. For all that his career has contained its low moments, it has also scaled some extremely notable heights. If nothing else, it can certainly be claimed that he has achieved far more than Newcastle in the last decade or so.

Unfortunately, his England experience will always cast a long shadow. He is one of only two England managers not to have led their side in a major tournament, and the chaotic manner of his side’s decisive defeat to Croatia in the final game of the qualifying campaign for Euro 2008 caused his reputation an immense amount of damage.

He is hardly the only talented manager to have failed with England though, and for all that the memories of that wet night at Wembley continue to torment, it is worth remembering that a raft of injuries meant McClaren was forced to play an untried Scott Carson in goal, with a creaking Sol Campbell and an inexperienced Joleon Lescott forming the heart of the back four.

Prior to his spell with the national team, however, McClaren’s career had followed a largely uninterrupted upward curve. He established his reputation as the assistant manager at Manchester United during a time when the Old Trafford club won the treble and a further two league titles.

At the time, he was regarded as something of a visionary, and while the use of video analysis, nutritional data and external sports psychologists might be regarded as unremarkable now, a decade-and-a-half ago it was a long way removed from the norm.

“Steve was fantastic,” said former Manchester United striker Teddy Sheringham. “He was ready to learn from other clubs, other countries and other sports. And his interest in video analysis and sports psychology gave us another dimension.”

Having gained a reputation as one of the most innovative coaches in the land, McClaren was offered the chance to step out of Sir Alex Ferguson’s shadow by taking over at Middlesbrough.

His time on Teesside is hard to sum up. He is the most successful manager in Middlesbrough’s history thanks to a two-year spell that saw the club win the Carling Cup and reach the UEFA Cup final in Eindhoven, yet his departure was hardly mourned and the final months of his reign were accompanied by mounting supporters’ discontent.

The chief criticism levelled at McClaren was that he adopted an overly negative approach, yet a decade or so on, and Boro’s subsequent struggles have led to at least a partial reassessment of his reign. Yes, he received substantial financial support from Steve Gibson. But his achievements stand out like a beacon in a wider North-East region that is hardly accustomed to success.

Significantly, McClaren was always admired by the players working under him, and again, it is the 54-year-old’s coaching abilities that are repeatedly cited as his biggest strength.

“He was the best coach I ever had,” said former Middlesbrough midfielder George Boateng. “His coaching was amazing. He would do sessions that made you think twice, rather than go through the motions without engaging your brain.

“Once, I’d been away all week with Holland, I came back and Steve did a session, and I said, ‘Hey, we just did this with the national team!’ He looked at me and said, ‘Do you think I just turn up and do any old thing?’ He knew every drill, every training method.”

It is that kind of testimony that has persuaded Newcastle that McClaren is the ideal candidate for their head coach role. They don’t want a manager – Lee Charnley could hardly have been more explicit about that – they want someone to extract the very maximum from the first-team squad on the training ground, and McClaren’s history contains plenty of examples where he has improved the players under his control and achieved a level of team success that did not appear likely when he took over.

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That was certainly the case with FC Twente, where McClaren set about restoring his reputation after his unplanned exit from England. It was a brave, if somewhat enforced, move to head to the continent in order to start again, and while Twente had never previously won the Eredivisie title prior to his arrival, McClaren guided the unfashionable Dutch side to the championship in his second season in Holland, after finishing as runner-up in his first.

As a result, he is revered in Enschede, and while he is unlikely to receive the same adoration when he is formally confirmed as Newcastle’s new head coach next week, perhaps in time his standing will alter. Having won silverware with Middlesbrough and Twente, it is hard to think of too many available contenders better placed to achieve similar success with the Magpies.

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Good article. Get the bloke in and let's see how it goes.

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I don't recall any link with the well-known coach Ronald DeBoer.

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To the point Boateng made I'm sure Carver made the players join in training sessions that made them think twice as well.

In all seriousness the article is right, he's a talented coach with better coaching pedigree than any at the club under Ashley and while he's not the most exciting choice he's still a canny one.

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According to The Sun, McClaren getting unveiled on Wednesday.

 

Let the good times roll.

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Let the adequate times trundle.