Some bollocks from somewhere.

[Park Life 71]

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View From: Corporate Meeting at NUFC

By Grim_Reaper_1974 - 12/08/2008 10:45

Another new member to the forum and a very good first post on Talkofthetyne.com, but do you believe it??, Tell us what you think...

 

 

Hi all. I've been reading these pages for a while so I thought I'd finally register as I heard some interesting news this morning.

 

There has been a massive reduction in sales of corporate box renewals so last night NUFC had a meeting with 20 corporate clients last night to try to get them to renew. Ashley, Wise and Lambidas where all there to give their vision for Newcastle. My mates, fathers friend was one of the people invited. It was supposed to be an hour long meeting but it went on for 3 and Ashely didn't duck any questions.

 

On Newcastle - He was asked why he bought the Toon. He said wanted a football club but originally he was not interested in Newcastle simply because he never thought he could get it. His advisors rang him on the Friday and asked him if he was interested in the Toon, he said yes and they said he'd have to wire £150m there and then. By the following week he has also spent another 100m of his money to pay off the debts. He doesn't expect to make money as most premier league clubs haemorrhage it. Everton last season finished about 7th, spent nothing in transfers and still only made £2m, their chairman is getting sick and looking to sell. Apparently Liverpool are "in the sh!t" with no money. Benitiez has spent all his money on Keane and has no more for Barry. He also said under Shepherd's regime NUFC could have quite easily gone under.

 

On the papers - Don't believe anything you read in them, for example apparently the Sun had rang him a couple of weeks ago to ask about the takeover story that they where going to print . Ashley said it was rubbish but they still printed it anyway. The only press they do is the Sky Sports commitments. The only paper that they do talk to is the chronicle, however he said only believe them if the story is an "exclusive" and they are directly quoted.

 

On Investors - He is looking to sell 25%, preferably to Newcastle based investors. He would also be willing to loan another 100m of his own cash for transfers, this would need to be paid back. He doesn't want any Asian investors because he doesn't trust them (look at Man city) but would be willing to look at an African deal as no-one is doing that at the moment (offer them exclusive rights to market NUFC in their country) but there isn't much taking off on this so far.

 

On Keegan and Wise - Keegan makes all decisions on players coming and going. All wise is charged with is bringing in 6 under 17 players a season

 

On players - Ashley wanted to sack Barton, Keegan said no as he said he was good at Man City and expects him to be a good player here.

 

Smith - Ashley wants to sell him to Everton, Keegan said no as he said he is the best trainer, very popular in the dressing room and thinks if he scores he will get his confidence back, become better on the fans will like him ala Nicky Butt.

 

Guitterrez - There was about 7 clubs in the Premier League after him, including the top 4 but he wanted to come here. Keegan is delighted with him as he thinks he is class.

 

Coloccini - said it's a done deal. Keegan is thinking of playing him in midfield as a playmaker as apparently he is very good at it.

 

On Transfers - There is lots of money available but the trouble is attracting players because we are not in Europe. Keegan lists the players he wants and puts a valuation of them. They obviously try and get them for less but if the selling club wants more money it's Keegan decision to say if they are worth more or not. There is no wage limit, if they think someone is worth 120k a week they would get it, but at the same time they won't be held to ransom and offer more than that.

 

He still has to pay £3m a year for the next few years to Deportivo for Luque

 

Modric had agreed on terms and was willing to sign but as he was waiting at the Malmaison for the paperwork to be raised, Tottenham offered him a deal and he flew down to London, apparently Ashley is furious with spurs and Modric as once a deal has been agreed that should be sealed.

 

Aimar and his agent had agreed on 70k a week and they were delighted but his wife said no as she wouldn't move here. Apparently they had a blazing argument in front of Ashley. He moved to Benfica for half the wages we offered him.

 

He said we should get 3 big transfers in before the end of the season and one of them is going to be such a nig name that no-one will believe it. He expects it to happen nearer the end of the transfer deadline.

 

Overall the opinion was that he was very convincing and positive, so much so that this guy has decided to renew his box. It sounds good that he is backing Keegan. I'm not sure about Smith and Barton, personally I didn't want either of them when we bought them.

 

I guess the proof in the pudding regarding the transfers will be if we get these big names in. I hope we do because at the moment I think we will have another poor season as our squad is terrible and we are desperate for new players.

[Guest Stevie]

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View From: Corporate Meeting at NUFC

By Grim_Reaper_1974 - 12/08/2008 10:45

Another new member to the forum and a very good first post on Talkofthetyne.com, but do you believe it??, Tell us what you think...

 

 

Hi all. I've been reading these pages for a while so I thought I'd finally register as I heard some interesting news this morning.

 

There has been a massive reduction in sales of corporate box renewals so last night NUFC had a meeting with 20 corporate clients last night to try to get them to renew. Ashley, Wise and Lambidas where all there to give their vision for Newcastle. My mates, fathers friend was one of the people invited. It was supposed to be an hour long meeting but it went on for 3 and Ashely didn't duck any questions.

 

On Newcastle - He was asked why he bought the Toon. He said wanted a football club but originally he was not interested in Newcastle simply because he never thought he could get it. His advisors rang him on the Friday and asked him if he was interested in the Toon, he said yes and they said he'd have to wire £150m there and then. By the following week he has also spent another 100m of his money to pay off the debts. He doesn't expect to make money as most premier league clubs haemorrhage it. Everton last season finished about 7th, spent nothing in transfers and still only made £2m, their chairman is getting sick and looking to sell. Apparently Liverpool are "in the sh!t" with no money. Benitiez has spent all his money on Keane and has no more for Barry. He also said under Shepherd's regime NUFC could have quite easily gone under.

 

On the papers - Don't believe anything you read in them, for example apparently the Sun had rang him a couple of weeks ago to ask about the takeover story that they where going to print . Ashley said it was rubbish but they still printed it anyway. The only press they do is the Sky Sports commitments. The only paper that they do talk to is the chronicle, however he said only believe them if the story is an "exclusive" and they are directly quoted.

 

On Investors - He is looking to sell 25%, preferably to Newcastle based investors. He would also be willing to loan another 100m of his own cash for transfers, this would need to be paid back. He doesn't want any Asian investors because he doesn't trust them (look at Man city) but would be willing to look at an African deal as no-one is doing that at the moment (offer them exclusive rights to market NUFC in their country) but there isn't much taking off on this so far.

 

On Keegan and Wise - Keegan makes all decisions on players coming and going. All wise is charged with is bringing in 6 under 17 players a season

 

On players - Ashley wanted to sack Barton, Keegan said no as he said he was good at Man City and expects him to be a good player here.

 

Smith - Ashley wants to sell him to Everton, Keegan said no as he said he is the best trainer, very popular in the dressing room and thinks if he scores he will get his confidence back, become better on the fans will like him ala Nicky Butt.

 

Guitterrez - There was about 7 clubs in the Premier League after him, including the top 4 but he wanted to come here. Keegan is delighted with him as he thinks he is class.

 

Coloccini - said it's a done deal. Keegan is thinking of playing him in midfield as a playmaker as apparently he is very good at it.

 

On Transfers - There is lots of money available but the trouble is attracting players because we are not in Europe. Keegan lists the players he wants and puts a valuation of them. They obviously try and get them for less but if the selling club wants more money it's Keegan decision to say if they are worth more or not. There is no wage limit, if they think someone is worth 120k a week they would get it, but at the same time they won't be held to ransom and offer more than that.

 

He still has to pay £3m a year for the next few years to Deportivo for Luque

 

Modric had agreed on terms and was willing to sign but as he was waiting at the Malmaison for the paperwork to be raised, Tottenham offered him a deal and he flew down to London, apparently Ashley is furious with spurs and Modric as once a deal has been agreed that should be sealed.

 

Aimar and his agent had agreed on 70k a week and they were delighted but his wife said no as she wouldn't move here. Apparently they had a blazing argument in front of Ashley. He moved to Benfica for half the wages we offered him.

 

He said we should get 3 big transfers in before the end of the season and one of them is going to be such a nig name that no-one will believe it. He expects it to happen nearer the end of the transfer deadline.

 

Overall the opinion was that he was very convincing and positive, so much so that this guy has decided to renew his box. It sounds good that he is backing Keegan. I'm not sure about Smith and Barton, personally I didn't want either of them when we bought them.

 

I guess the proof in the pudding regarding the transfers will be if we get these big names in. I hope we do because at the moment I think we will have another poor season as our squad is terrible and we are desperate for new players.

Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink?

[Park Life 71]

Read that earlier myself

as much as you'd love such news to be true

ya really know deep down it's aload of balls

 

Funny thing is some of it rings true.

 

On the other hand the really big name before the end of the season feels like fan driven wishful thinking, hope it's true mind.

[Park Life 71]

Top stuff, enjoy

 

View From: Corporate Meeting at NUFC

By Grim_Reaper_1974 - 12/08/2008 10:45

Another new member to the forum and a very good first post on Talkofthetyne.com, but do you believe it??, Tell us what you think...

 

 

Hi all. I've been reading these pages for a while so I thought I'd finally register as I heard some interesting news this morning.

 

There has been a massive reduction in sales of corporate box renewals so last night NUFC had a meeting with 20 corporate clients last night to try to get them to renew. Ashley, Wise and Lambidas where all there to give their vision for Newcastle. My mates, fathers friend was one of the people invited. It was supposed to be an hour long meeting but it went on for 3 and Ashely didn't duck any questions.

 

On Newcastle - He was asked why he bought the Toon. He said wanted a football club but originally he was not interested in Newcastle simply because he never thought he could get it. His advisors rang him on the Friday and asked him if he was interested in the Toon, he said yes and they said he'd have to wire £150m there and then. By the following week he has also spent another 100m of his money to pay off the debts. He doesn't expect to make money as most premier league clubs haemorrhage it. Everton last season finished about 7th, spent nothing in transfers and still only made £2m, their chairman is getting sick and looking to sell. Apparently Liverpool are "in the sh!t" with no money. Benitiez has spent all his money on Keane and has no more for Barry. He also said under Shepherd's regime NUFC could have quite easily gone under.

 

On the papers - Don't believe anything you read in them, for example apparently the Sun had rang him a couple of weeks ago to ask about the takeover story that they where going to print . Ashley said it was rubbish but they still printed it anyway. The only press they do is the Sky Sports commitments. The only paper that they do talk to is the chronicle, however he said only believe them if the story is an "exclusive" and they are directly quoted.

 

On Investors - He is looking to sell 25%, preferably to Newcastle based investors. He would also be willing to loan another 100m of his own cash for transfers, this would need to be paid back. He doesn't want any Asian investors because he doesn't trust them (look at Man city) but would be willing to look at an African deal as no-one is doing that at the moment (offer them exclusive rights to market NUFC in their country) but there isn't much taking off on this so far.

 

On Keegan and Wise - Keegan makes all decisions on players coming and going. All wise is charged with is bringing in 6 under 17 players a season

 

On players - Ashley wanted to sack Barton, Keegan said no as he said he was good at Man City and expects him to be a good player here.

 

Smith - Ashley wants to sell him to Everton, Keegan said no as he said he is the best trainer, very popular in the dressing room and thinks if he scores he will get his confidence back, become better on the fans will like him ala Nicky Butt.

 

Guitterrez - There was about 7 clubs in the Premier League after him, including the top 4 but he wanted to come here. Keegan is delighted with him as he thinks he is class.

 

Coloccini - said it's a done deal. Keegan is thinking of playing him in midfield as a playmaker as apparently he is very good at it.

 

On Transfers - There is lots of money available but the trouble is attracting players because we are not in Europe. Keegan lists the players he wants and puts a valuation of them. They obviously try and get them for less but if the selling club wants more money it's Keegan decision to say if they are worth more or not. There is no wage limit, if they think someone is worth 120k a week they would get it, but at the same time they won't be held to ransom and offer more than that.

 

He still has to pay £3m a year for the next few years to Deportivo for Luque

 

Modric had agreed on terms and was willing to sign but as he was waiting at the Malmaison for the paperwork to be raised, Tottenham offered him a deal and he flew down to London, apparently Ashley is furious with spurs and Modric as once a deal has been agreed that should be sealed.

 

Aimar and his agent had agreed on 70k a week and they were delighted but his wife said no as she wouldn't move here. Apparently they had a blazing argument in front of Ashley. He moved to Benfica for half the wages we offered him.

 

He said we should get 3 big transfers in before the end of the season and one of them is going to be such a nig name that no-one will believe it. He expects it to happen nearer the end of the transfer deadline.

 

Overall the opinion was that he was very convincing and positive, so much so that this guy has decided to renew his box. It sounds good that he is backing Keegan. I'm not sure about Smith and Barton, personally I didn't want either of them when we bought them.

 

I guess the proof in the pudding regarding the transfers will be if we get these big names in. I hope we do because at the moment I think we will have another poor season as our squad is terrible and we are desperate for new players.

Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink?

 

God that would be summat.

[Park Life 71]

Things like Colocinni as playmaker??? How can that be right. DM at a stretch yes, but playmaker???

[Guest alex]

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View From: Corporate Meeting at NUFC

By Grim_Reaper_1974 - 12/08/2008 10:45

Another new member to the forum and a very good first post on Talkofthetyne.com, but do you believe it??, Tell us what you think...

 

 

Hi all. I've been reading these pages for a while so I thought I'd finally register as I heard some interesting news this morning.

 

There has been a massive reduction in sales of corporate box renewals so last night NUFC had a meeting with 20 corporate clients last night to try to get them to renew. Ashley, Wise and Lambidas where all there to give their vision for Newcastle. My mates, fathers friend was one of the people invited. It was supposed to be an hour long meeting but it went on for 3 and Ashely didn't duck any questions.

 

On Newcastle - He was asked why he bought the Toon. He said wanted a football club but originally he was not interested in Newcastle simply because he never thought he could get it. His advisors rang him on the Friday and asked him if he was interested in the Toon, he said yes and they said he'd have to wire £150m there and then. By the following week he has also spent another 100m of his money to pay off the debts. He doesn't expect to make money as most premier league clubs haemorrhage it. Everton last season finished about 7th, spent nothing in transfers and still only made £2m, their chairman is getting sick and looking to sell. Apparently Liverpool are "in the sh!t" with no money. Benitiez has spent all his money on Keane and has no more for Barry. He also said under Shepherd's regime NUFC could have quite easily gone under.

 

On the papers - Don't believe anything you read in them, for example apparently the Sun had rang him a couple of weeks ago to ask about the takeover story that they where going to print . Ashley said it was rubbish but they still printed it anyway. The only press they do is the Sky Sports commitments. The only paper that they do talk to is the chronicle, however he said only believe them if the story is an "exclusive" and they are directly quoted.

 

On Investors - He is looking to sell 25%, preferably to Newcastle based investors. He would also be willing to loan another 100m of his own cash for transfers, this would need to be paid back. He doesn't want any Asian investors because he doesn't trust them (look at Man city) but would be willing to look at an African deal as no-one is doing that at the moment (offer them exclusive rights to market NUFC in their country) but there isn't much taking off on this so far.

 

On Keegan and Wise - Keegan makes all decisions on players coming and going. All wise is charged with is bringing in 6 under 17 players a season

 

On players - Ashley wanted to sack Barton, Keegan said no as he said he was good at Man City and expects him to be a good player here.

 

Smith - Ashley wants to sell him to Everton, Keegan said no as he said he is the best trainer, very popular in the dressing room and thinks if he scores he will get his confidence back, become better on the fans will like him ala Nicky Butt.

 

Guitterrez - There was about 7 clubs in the Premier League after him, including the top 4 but he wanted to come here. Keegan is delighted with him as he thinks he is class.

 

Coloccini - said it's a done deal. Keegan is thinking of playing him in midfield as a playmaker as apparently he is very good at it.

 

On Transfers - There is lots of money available but the trouble is attracting players because we are not in Europe. Keegan lists the players he wants and puts a valuation of them. They obviously try and get them for less but if the selling club wants more money it's Keegan decision to say if they are worth more or not. There is no wage limit, if they think someone is worth 120k a week they would get it, but at the same time they won't be held to ransom and offer more than that.

 

He still has to pay £3m a year for the next few years to Deportivo for Luque

 

Modric had agreed on terms and was willing to sign but as he was waiting at the Malmaison for the paperwork to be raised, Tottenham offered him a deal and he flew down to London, apparently Ashley is furious with spurs and Modric as once a deal has been agreed that should be sealed.

 

Aimar and his agent had agreed on 70k a week and they were delighted but his wife said no as she wouldn't move here. Apparently they had a blazing argument in front of Ashley. He moved to Benfica for half the wages we offered him.

 

He said we should get 3 big transfers in before the end of the season and one of them is going to be such a nig name that no-one will believe it. He expects it to happen nearer the end of the transfer deadline.

 

Overall the opinion was that he was very convincing and positive, so much so that this guy has decided to renew his box. It sounds good that he is backing Keegan. I'm not sure about Smith and Barton, personally I didn't want either of them when we bought them.

 

I guess the proof in the pudding regarding the transfers will be if we get these big names in. I hope we do because at the moment I think we will have another poor season as our squad is terrible and we are desperate for new players.

Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink?

Not Winston or Delbert? Missed a trick there like.

[JawD 99]

This meeting is the one I think the lass at the club was telling me about. Getting the main corporate investors at a meeting to give them assurances about the clubs direction etc.

[Happy Face 29]

one of them is going to be such a nig name that no-one will believe it. He expects it to happen nearer the end of the transfer deadline.

 

But will it knock my socks off?

 

 

Strange that he starts by saying the reason for the meeting was the lack of corporate sales, when the expansion of the family enclosure was put down to the excellent support received from the corporate buyers.

 

[Guest alex]

Things like Colocinni as playmaker??? How can that be right. DM at a stretch yes, but playmaker???

I would imagine it's pulling the strings in front of the back four a la Guardiola, Hierro, Redondo, etc. rather than playing 'in the hole'. Assuming it's not bollocks.

[Flair 0]

Interesting stuff.

 

Regards,

Attain

[Park Life 71]

Things like Colocinni as playmaker??? How can that be right. DM at a stretch yes, but playmaker???

I would imagine it's pulling the strings in front of the back four a la Guardiola, Hierro, Redondo, etc. rather than playing 'in the hole'. Assuming it's not bollocks.

 

Ok that is entirely more believable.

 

The Luque thing is right, we are still paying them quite some coin.

 

And the local investors thing is right.

[Park Life 71]

Not totally sure about the Wise thing cause I've seen quotes by him about signing world class players, so it can't just be youf.

[Dr Gloom 22508]

Things like Colocinni as playmaker??? How can that be right. DM at a stretch yes, but playmaker???

I would imagine it's pulling the strings in front of the back four a la Guardiola, Hierro, Redondo, etc. rather than playing 'in the hole'. Assuming it's not bollocks.

 

 

sounds like we could spark an 'is viana a defensive midfielder' type debate if that is the case

Edited August 12, 2008 by Dr Gloom

[Park Life 71]

Things like Colocinni as playmaker??? How can that be right. DM at a stretch yes, but playmaker???

I would imagine it's pulling the strings in front of the back four a la Guardiola, Hierro, Redondo, etc. rather than playing 'in the hole'. Assuming it's not bollocks.

 

 

sounds like we could spark an 'is viana a defensive midfielder' type debate if that is the case

 

If it means Butt getting dropped then it's all good.

[Wavey Davey 0]

Things like Colocinni as playmaker??? How can that be right. DM at a stretch yes, but playmaker???

I would imagine it's pulling the strings in front of the back four a la Guardiola, Hierro, Redondo, etc. rather than playing 'in the hole'. Assuming it's not bollocks.

 

 

sounds like we could spark an 'is viana a defensive midfielder' type debate if that is the case

 

If it means Butt getting dropped then it's all good.

 

I beg you pardon??? Butt was our better players for the last 2 seasons.

 

Wash ye mouth out with soap, heathen!

[Park Life 71]

"On Transfers - There is lots of money available but the trouble is attracting players because we are not in Europe. Keegan lists the players he wants and puts a valuation of them. They obviously try and get them for less but if the selling club wants more money it's Keegan decision to say if they are worth more or not. There is no wage limit, if they think someone is worth 120k a week they would get it, but at the same time they won't be held to ransom and offer more than that."

 

 

This bit seems highly contentious as well.

Edited August 12, 2008 by Park Life

[Guest alex]

Things like Colocinni as playmaker??? How can that be right. DM at a stretch yes, but playmaker???

I would imagine it's pulling the strings in front of the back four a la Guardiola, Hierro, Redondo, etc. rather than playing 'in the hole'. Assuming it's not bollocks.

 

 

sounds like we could spark an 'is viana a defensive midfielder' type debate if that is the case

 

If it means Butt getting dropped then it's all good.

 

I beg you pardon??? Butt was our better players for the last 2 seasons.

 

Wash ye mouth out with soap, heathen!

He was, aye. But that says a lot about how poor we were too. Butt's been a good player but we need an upgrade.

[Fop 1]

Read that earlier myself

as much as you'd love such news to be true

ya really know deep down it's aload of balls

 

Funny thing is some of it rings true.

 

On the other hand the really big name before the end of the season feels like fan driven wishful thinking, hope it's true mind.

 

If that were all true that actually paints a very rosy picture of the club (not necessarily directly in league position this season, but certainly longer-term). Especially the Ashley/Keegan relationship.

 

But as usual it's all hearsay.

[Park Life 71]

Read that earlier myself

as much as you'd love such news to be true

ya really know deep down it's aload of balls

 

Funny thing is some of it rings true.

 

On the other hand the really big name before the end of the season feels like fan driven wishful thinking, hope it's true mind.

 

If that were all true that actually paints a very rosy picture of the club (not necessarily directly in league position this season, but certainly longer-term). Especially the Ashley/Keegan relationship.

 

But as usual it's all hearsay.

 

Newcastle United is a bit like trying to work out what happened at a Politburo meeting. And who's next to be shot or gulaged.

[Howay 12496]

Excellent if true especially the bits about Keegan having the opposite opinion to Ashley on certain matters and Ashley trusting Keegan enough to allow him to have his way. The bit about Luque is depressing how much did we actually pay for that useless twat? was it £9m outright then £3m a year? or has the £9m been payed in yearly amounts? or what

[triggy99 0]

If its true about us getting a really big name player that nobody would believe we would sign imo it will be berbatov

[zico martin 90]

If its true about us getting a really big name player that nobody would believe we would sign imo it will be berbatov

 

 

bound to be, suprised we've kept it all secret for so long tbh

 

[Park Life 71]

If its true about us getting a really big name player that nobody would believe we would sign imo it will be berbatov

 

That'll do me.

 

 

Although I'd rather a mahooosive bid for Diego. :icon_lol:

 

 

EDIT: Eto'o??

Edited August 12, 2008 by Park Life

[Dr Gloom 22508]

If its true about us getting a really big name player that nobody would believe we would sign imo it will be berbatov

 

not

 

 

in

 

 

a

 

 

million

 

 

years

[Fop 1]

Read that earlier myself

as much as you'd love such news to be true

ya really know deep down it's aload of balls

 

Funny thing is some of it rings true.

 

On the other hand the really big name before the end of the season feels like fan driven wishful thinking, hope it's true mind.

 

If that were all true that actually paints a very rosy picture of the club (not necessarily directly in league position this season, but certainly longer-term). Especially the Ashley/Keegan relationship.

 

But as usual it's all hearsay.

 

Newcastle United is a bit like trying to work out what happened at a Politburo meeting. And who's next to be shot or gulaged.

 

Quite a bit harder I reckon. It's the quadruple bluff based on faux-disinformation that gets me every time.