Jimbo 175 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Gutierrez deal takes new twist Mallorca demand compensation, while Velez want player back Real Mallorca are demanding £8million compensation from Newcastle for Jonas Gutierrez. The Argentina international left the Primera Liga side for the North East on Wednesday after buying out the remaining two years of his contract in Spain. With that effectively making him a free agent, cash-strapped Mallorca are threatening to report the issue to Fifa in an attempt to secure a financial package they deem suitable for a player of international pedigree. The Spanish club's president Vicente Grande claims that they will be left on the brink of administration if the deal is allowed to stand and has urged world football's governing body to intervene. Crisis "Because of our financial crisis, this could really damage us. In fact, it has come at the worst possible time," said Grande. "We cannot understand the attitude of the player who has done this to force a move to England. "This matter is not closed because the club has decided to go to FIFA to reclaim our right. The minimum we want to recuperate is the £8million Portsmouth offered us in the winter.'' Despite the president's calls for action, Gutierrez is adamant that he has done nothing wrong and is looking forward to beginning a new chapter in his career. He said: "My conscience is clear and I am not worried by the actions of Real Mallorca. I just want to play for Newcastle in the Premier League." Loan Another issue which could scupper Mallorca's plans for compensation involves the dual ownership of Gutierrez that the club shared with his first club Velez Sarsfield. The Argentinean outfit insist that the winger was due to return to them next season anyway, although they too have suggested that they will be exploring the legalities of the 25-year-old's move to England. "Jonas Gutierrez was due to return to Velez Sarsfield on 1st July in accordance with the contract signed with Mallorca, owners of a 50 per cent stake of his economic rights," said Velez president Alvaro Ballestrini. "After three seasons on loan at Mallorca he would have had to come back to Velez if Newcastle had not come in." With confusion now surrounding the transfer Ballestrini has also been quoted as saying that there still remains a possibility that Gutierrez will return to his homeland, rather than the Premier League. "I want to contact the agent of Jonas and the directors of Newcastle," he told radio station Cadena Sar. "We have requested the player's presence at training in Buenos Aires on 7th July and after that we will announce our official position." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 (edited) They can split the money he gave them when he bought out the final 2 years of his contract then . I'll be surprised if owt happens it's in Fifa rules that you can do this. I guess the 50% ownership complicates it but I still don't see us running into many problems. Edited July 4, 2008 by Barton7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadrian 0 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 this is going to drag on and on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7318 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 i dont know how its going to put them into administration, its not like we took £8mil off them, they were in the shit either way. Even more so when frdyy buys them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6702 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Smacks totally of a club totally fucked off that they didn't take Portsmouth up on their offer six months ago.... Greedy bastards - all that's happened is a loophole, which wasn't unprecedented, has been exploited. If FIFA intervene, they'd have to take action against Webster's transfer as well (which they won't). I can understand it being a bitter pill to swallow - but they need to accept it rather than whinge on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoggeordie 0 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Smacks totally of a club totally fucked off that they didn't take Portsmouth up on their offer six months ago.... Greedy bastards - all that's happened is a loophole, which wasn't unprecedented, has been exploited. If FIFA intervene, they'd have to take action against Webster's transfer as well (which they won't). I can understand it being a bitter pill to swallow - but they need to accept it rather than whinge on... It's certainly got a distinct whiff of Sheffield United-itis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen 0 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Just tell them to swivel for fucks sake. At least it means he's worth"something" though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I R Toon Fan 0 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Shrewd piece of business by us imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 Shrewd piece of business by us imo. either that or a total balls up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Smacks totally of a club totally fucked off that they didn't take Portsmouth up on their offer six months ago.... Greedy bastards - all that's happened is a loophole, which wasn't unprecedented, has been exploited. If FIFA intervene, they'd have to take action against Webster's transfer as well (which they won't). I can understand it being a bitter pill to swallow - but they need to accept it rather than whinge on... Yup. And I can't imagine the new board going ahead unless they thought it was rock solid legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31596 Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Shrewd piece of business by us imo. either that or a total balls up. Agreed. However I do feel that the new regime have a much more professional and efficient way of doing business so I'm sure that the legalities of the situation were examined before going ahead with this transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy 17 Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Shrewd piece of business by us imo. = Mike Ashley either that or a total balls up. = Fat fuckwit Shep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I don't understand any of this now. How can he just buy himself out of Mallorca if he was only on loan to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindont 0 Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I think its because his contract pays a certain amount in the future, and if he meets how much there going to pay him on the remainder of his contract he can buy it out i think anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I don't understand any of this now. How can he just buy himself out of Mallorca if he was only on loan to them? Aye his deal sounds dodgy anyway, but either way the issue should be with him and his club/clubs. It does sound like a lot of it is wishful thinking about that £8m though, admittedly this being widespread is going to make the top clubs even more powerful I guess, I always wondered how football had managed to make contracts so inescapable legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I don't understand any of this now. How can he just buy himself out of Mallorca if he was only on loan to them? Aye his deal sounds dodgy anyway, but either way the issue should be with him and his club/clubs. It does sound like a lot of it is wishful thinking about that £8m though, admittedly this being widespread is going to make the top clubs even more powerful I guess, I always wondered how football had managed to make contracts so inescapable legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I don't understand any of this now. How can he just buy himself out of Mallorca if he was only on loan to them? Aye his deal sounds dodgy anyway, but either way the issue should be with him and his club/clubs. It does sound like a lot of it is wishful thinking about that £8m though, admittedly this being widespread is going to make the top clubs even more powerful I guess, I always wondered how football had managed to make contracts so inescapable legally. We'll be ok & Real Madrid/ManU/Chelsea/etc. will be able to buy anyone (once the player can buy out anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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