More than a quarter of scousers on benefits

[Guest Stevie]

Quarter of Liverpool on benefits

 

Jun 25 2008 by Michelle Fiddler and Helen Hunt, Liverpool Echo

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LIVERPOOL has more people on benefits than any city in England with more than a quarter out of work.

 

Shock new figures today revealed that 26% of the population were dependent on the state.

 

Birkenhead was 10th in the list.

 

Liverpool council today accepted the bleak picture, but said it was confident the city was now on the up.

 

Experts at The Centre for Cities and the Centre for Economic & Social Inclusion compiled the report into English cities amid government targets of getting 80% of the working population into a job.

 

They also highlighted Liverpool as the biggest challenge faced by Whitehall.

 

The figures for the city showed

 

26% of the working age population are on benefit, twice the national average

 

Half of those people are claiming incapacity benefit (12% of the city)

 

5% of working age people in the city are on job seekers allowance.

 

The experts also found Liverpool had an overall employment rate of just 65%, worse than any other city apart from Hull, with the rest of people out-of-work students, the early-retired or full-time carers.

 

In Birkenhead, nearly 20% of people are on benefits, the 10th highest in the country.

 

Experts today urged the government to give more powers to cities to allow job creation in local areas.

 

The report, based on figures taken April and June 2007, suggests the government will struggle to meet the 80% national employment rate unless it gives more freedom to cities.

 

Cllr Flo Clucas, Liverpool council’s executive member for economic development and Europe, said Liverpool is still climbing out of the high unemployment it suffered in the 80s, when industries such as the docks went.

 

She said: “Between 1980 and 1990 we lost something like 22% of the population and 18% of jobs in the city.

 

“We wouldn’t have been given objective one funding if the city wasn’t among the poorest, with the poorest job prospects in the whole of Europe.

 

“We know exactly where these people are and how to hone in on those who can be taken out of benefits, and we are working to do that.”

 

Not a big surprise

 

LEADER of Liverpool city council Warren Bradley said: “The statistics do not surprise me at all.

 

“We have been trying to do something quite creative and quite unique, allowing people to evolve into work at their own pace.

 

“I welcome the talk of more powers being given to the local authorities.

 

“It is my responsibility to engage people and give them confidence to come off benefits.

 

“I welcome this and I hope its a wake-up call for people who think that strategy can solve all the ills of the world.”

 

Kevin Adderley, Wirral council’s head of strategic development said: “Wirral’s Investment Strategy clearly identifies tackling increasing unemployment rates and the varying levels of skills and economic activity as a key priority.”

 

Last month, Working Wirral, a new programme aimed at creating further employment and investment opportunities in Wirral, was launched.

SHOCK new figures? Where's the shock exactly. 26% of the population on benefits, TWICE the national average, TWENTY SIX PERCENT, and people like me and you are paying for them.

[Park Life 71]

Wow! Those are bad figures.

[Tooj 17]

Stevie must have a daily subscription to the Liverpool Echo like, because as soon as some negative Scouse news comes out he's on it straight away!

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

How many of them are fiddling scroungers?

[Craig 6700]

Fucking laughable with all the development going on in the city - it's all Polish people doing that... why the fuck didn't they use that exercise to help their own unemployment figures?

[SloopJohn 0]

no wonder torres has so much spare time.

[Happy Face 29]

Funny, cos Liverpool topped that deprevation chart that Stevie called bollocks.

[Guest Stevie]

She said: “Between 1980 and 1990 we lost something like 22% of the population and 18% of jobs in the city.

 

“We wouldn’t have been given objective one funding if the city wasn’t among the poorest, with the poorest job prospects in the whole of Europe.

 

I know a good scouser personally, he really is a OK believe it or not, but he has that self pity gene in him I'll show you a msn conversation I've just had with him. He's an educated lad as well, solicitor, he is what I'd call a balanced scouser by their standards, but what he puts sums them up.

 

 

Stevie says:

steve im not having a go

Stevie says:

im not

Steve says:

what now?

Stevie says:

but do you get your local paper

Steve says:

no

Stevie says:

ok

Steve says:

its a red rag

Steve says:

you on about the benefits thing?

Stevie says:

aye link was on a toon site

Stevie says:

pasted by a wigan fan

Steve says:

what were you expecting?

Stevie says:

26%

Stevie says:

i know it said SHOCK figures

Steve says:

its not is 5% on jsa

Stevie says:

wheres the shock

Steve says:

12% on is

Stevie says:

aye twice the national average

Steve says:

what do you expect after thatcher butchered us?

Steve says:

its taken 50 or 60 years to get some investment

Steve says:

it'll be a different story in ten years time

Steve says:

typical of british mentality to sensationalise and exagerate figures, and to laugh at others

Steve says:

other countries would want to help and try to resolve the issues

Steve says:

not england, we'll isolate the problem, laugh at the scousers

Steve says:

and make it worse

Stevie says:

its in your fucking paper

Stevie says:

its hardly anyone else sensationalising it

Steve says:

its still exagerated

Steve says:

5% jsa

Stevie says:

oh dear

Stevie says:

it your fucking papers

Steve says:

5% out of work

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13% on sick

Stevie says:

THIRTEEN

Steve says:

so

Steve says:

you need a doc to certify it

Steve says:

are the docs bent?

Steve says:

actually its 12%

Stevie says:

if shipman had've worked in liverpool he'd have kept the figures down

Stevie says:

and no mistake

Steve says:

how?

Stevie says:

just reading this liverpool echo pieced

Stevie says:

“We wouldn’t have been given objective one funding if the city wasn’t among the poorest, with the poorest job prospects in the whole of Europe.

Stevie says:

poor cunts

Stevie says:

be alright in the future

Steve says:

it will be

Steve says:

we got fucked over by thatcher

Steve says:

well to be fair to her, we've been fucked over by london since the 2nd world war

Steve says:

and you wonder why i hate london so

Steve says:

did you hear about the imperial war museum?

Steve says:

built in manchester for twice the price of liverpool

Steve says:

and we fought the fucking war not those cunts

Steve says:

i mean from the seas

Steve says:

and we had all the dry docks in place, plenty of room all along the sea front, but what do you the fuckers do, give it to manchester

Steve says:

idots

Steve says:

and then manchester's second runway

Steve says:

what does it do?

Steve says:

planes circle and have to wait ages for landing

Steve says:

may as well only have one runway

Steve says:

we would have built it for a lot less and obvioulsy could take traffic away from them

Steve says:

but no

Steve says:

london gave it to them

Steve says:

fuckers

Steve says:

so many examples of the government fucking us over, and people like you laugh at our city. You should be impressed by our resolve

Steve says:

we won't let those fuckers in london do us

Steve says:

and we will get our freedom

Steve says:

regional devolution

Steve says:

i can't wait

Stevie says:

well we're in the same position manchester are in to be honest

Stevie says:

we get fucking everything in the north east

Stevie says:

teesside and sunderland fucking hate it

Stevie says:

and are just as bitter as you

Steve says:

wedgie

Steve says:

you are the bigger city and they are towns

Steve says:

it makes sense

Steve says:

we were the bigger city

Steve says:

they fucked us over

Steve says:

it made no sense

Stevie says:

sunderland's not a town

Stevie says:

its a city

Stevie says:

wearside has about 600,000 people

Stevie says:

teesside 550,000

Steve says:

its not got 1,000,000 in the city though has it

Stevie says:

neither has tyneside

Steve says:

neither do we anymore

Steve says:

fuckers

Steve says:

every other city in england is bigger than it has ever been

Steve says:

we're only at about 55% of capacity

Steve says:

i hope thatcher burns in hell

Steve says:

i really don't hate many people

Steve says:

but i hate her

Steve says:

i really do hope she suffers for all eternity

Stevie says:

her reforms made us the 4th best economy in the world

Steve says:

her reforms killed liverpool

Stevie says:

there winner short term winners and losers

Steve says:

she put my dad out of a job

Stevie says:

and mine

Steve says:

she killed my city

Steve says:

my dad has never been out of work before or since

Steve says:

she did it

Steve says:

she took pleasure in it

Steve says:

she hates liverpool

Stevie says:

shes not on record as saying that

Steve says:

she never said anything nice about it

Steve says:

came here like once

Steve says:

she hates it cos of wilson

Steve says:

loads of the great labour politicians were liverpool based

Stevie says:

derek hatton didnt help matters

Steve says:

typical outsiders view

Steve says:

he fought her and she fucked us over

Steve says:

and rewrote history

Steve says:

nothing gets away from the fact that she destroyed the north

Steve says:

and in particular liverpool

Steve says:

we were still affluent before her

Steve says:

in decline

Steve says:

but affluent

Steve says:

you should ahte her too

Steve says:

she destroyed your ship building

Steve says:

and the mining

Steve says:

do you know where wilson was mp for?

 

Steve just sent you a nudge.

 

Steve says:

don't cheat

Stevie says:

wirral

Steve says:

nope

Steve says:

huyton

Steve says:

huyton was only an area which had its own mp for a short time 20 years or so

Steve says:

and harold wilson was the only mp huyton ever had

Steve says:

how good is that?

Steve says:

not interested of course

Stevie says:

what the fuck do i want to know about scouse politics for

Stevie says:

steve its nee wonder the caal yiz self pity city

Steve says:

self pity?

Steve says:

so we get fucked over for years

Steve says:

and we just have to go "oh well"

Stevie says:

aye

Steve says:

the country turns into bigots like you who slag us at every opportunity

Steve says:

and we have to accept it

Stevie says:

but yous think you're the only cunts that have ever had hard times

Stevie says:

cunts like us did something about it

Steve says:

no one else has had hard times like us

Stevie says:

what you on about bigot you cheeky cunt

Steve says:

what did you do about it?

Stevie says:

no one else has had hard times like yous

Steve says:

name one thing your city did about it

Stevie says:

oh my god

Steve says:

no

Steve says:

not in england

Stevie says:

what about them poor cunts that got hit by that tidal wave

Steve says:

in england?

Stevie says:

what about the jocks

Steve says:

england?

Stevie says:

what about cunts in northern ireland

Steve says:

england?

Steve says:

we got fucked over by our own country

Stevie says:

well look at birmingham, they could've been given personalities by the government but they've neglected that side for over a hundred years

Stevie says:

i dont know what you're fucking moaning about anyway

Stevie says:

you got that culture city thing

Steve says:

nothing to do with england

Steve says:

its europe

Steve says:

europe is saving us

Steve says:

not england

Steve says:

fuck england

Stevie says:

and i said at the time and you said i was talking shit, it was a fucking sympathy vote because yous needed it more than us

Stevie says:

well fuck off to ireland then

Steve says:

we did need it more than yous

Stevie says:

no cunt would miss yous with your fuckin self pity

Steve says:

but we also have the most culture

Stevie says:

fuckin going on about liverpool being 60% catholic

Stevie says:

shouting for teams against england

Stevie says:

the problem with liverpool is its a port

Stevie says:

and all fucking ports are full of cunts

Stevie says:

goodnight

Steve says:

i never shouted for anyone v england

Steve says:

you have never said one nice thing about liverpool

Steve says:

not one

Stevie says:

yes i have

Steve says:

no you haven't

Stevie says:

i said mick quinn was a canny bloke

Steve says:

you love to kick us

Stevie says:

do i fuck

Steve says:

you love to see bad things happen

Stevie says:

but you can only see things from one point of view

Steve says:

and you're all like - look at this

Stevie says:

when all the mines closed in yorkshire and derbyshire

Steve says:

can't get it in quick enough

Stevie says:

whole communities died

Stevie says:

did they moan?

Stevie says:

yes

Steve says:

yes

Stevie says:

but they fuckin worked hard

Steve says:

they fucking did and still do

Stevie says:

and got on with it

Steve says:

stevie, so we don't work hard?

Steve says:

are you having a laugh?

Stevie says:

yous dont even fuckin work never mind work hard

Stevie says:

TWENTY SIX PERCENT steve

Steve says:

fuck off

Steve says:

5%

Stevie says:

and dont say there's no fucking job

Stevie says:

s

Steve says:

don't be an uneduacated dickhead

Stevie says:

go on any job board and its teaming with merseyside vacancies

Steve says:

stevie

Stevie says:

my company has loads of vacancies for liverpool and the wirral

Steve says:

you know what happened to liverpool

Steve says:

and its in the fucking 70s and 80s

Steve says:

not now

Stevie says:

same as what happened in the rest of the country

Steve says:

now its on its way back

Steve says:

no

Steve says:

no

Steve says:

mo

Steve says:

it was well worse here

Stevie says:

aye it was only liverpool

Stevie says:

you were the only cunts that suffered

Steve says:

we lost 500,000 people

Stevie says:

you suffered more than anyone fucking suffering martyrs we havent won the league for 80 years so pipe down

Stevie says:

did you fuck

Steve says:

were else did that happen?

Steve says:

yes we did

Stevie says:

22% of your population

Steve says:

no

Stevie says:

isnt 500,000

Steve says:

500,000 from 1940 to 2000

Stevie says:

and?

Steve says:

1,000,000 to 500,000

Steve says:

where else did that happen?

Steve says:

no where

Steve says:

we lost our doscks

Steve says:

we lost ship routes

Steve says:

we lost our car plants

Steve says:

we lost all our industry

Stevie says:

the canal thing fucked it when all the ships went to manchester

Steve says:

all brought on by governemtne

Stevie says:

but you're still moaning about it

Steve says:

stevie

Steve says:

the government fucked us over

Steve says:

it killed off all our industry

Steve says:

all of it

Steve says:

and once you lose major industirtes the rest follow

Steve says:

the government never helps

Steve says:

did they give us an airport to replace the docks?

Steve says:

no

Steve says:

built it in manchester for twice the price

Steve says:

built it in apoxy little city and fucked us over

Steve says:

so everyone had to leave and go to manchester or london

Steve says:

for work

Steve says:

COS WE ARE NOT LAZY BASTARDS

Steve says:

so fuck off

Stevie says:

fuckin pipe down

Stevie says:

insular cunts

Stevie says:

yous are the only cunts that have ever been shat one

Stevie says:

-e

Stevie says:

arent you

Stevie says:

you're the only cunts who lost your industry

Steve says:

we suffered more than anyone

Stevie says:

did you fuck

Steve says:

yes we did

Steve says:

and not just for a year or two

Steve says:

for 50 years

Steve says:

ever since world war 2

Stevie says:

500,000 fucked off cos its a shithole and they were sick of getting fuckin robbed and riots gann on doon the street

Stevie says:

fuckin makes me sick

Steve says:

Stevie says:

500,000 fucked off cos its a shithole and they were sick of getting fuckin robbed and riots gann on doon the street

Stevie says:

to think you're liberal as well compared to most Liverpool peoples standard

Stevie says:

s

Steve says:

you take that back

Steve says:

that is personal and i would never say such a thing about newcastle

Stevie says:

i dont care what you say about newcastle mate

Steve says:

i wouldn't becuase i am not like you

Steve says:

i don't need to run places down

Stevie says:

well you take the moral high ground

Steve says:

are you taking that back or not

Stevie says:

i havent even ran Liverpool down

Steve says:

Stevie says:

500,000 fucked off cos its a shithole and they were sick of getting fuckin robbed and riots gann on doon the street

 

Stevie says:

i just showed you the article

Steve says:

that's running liverpool down

Stevie says:

and you fuckin go on and on

Stevie says:

about its all the governments fault

Steve says:

you run us down all the time

Steve says:

its all you ever do

Stevie says:

maybe the government havebeen partly to blame

Steve says:

i live in a shithole

Stevie says:

but fuck me

Steve says:

and my teams shite

Stevie says:

your population isnt faultless

Stevie says:

your city centres not bad

Steve says:

fuck off

Steve says:

fuck off

Stevie says:

so i wouldnt say you live in a shithole

Steve says:

you know fuck all

Stevie says:

you know fuck all

Steve says:

take that comment back

Stevie says:

fuckin blinded rose tinted glasses cunt

Stevie says:

no fuck off

Stevie says:

thats the finish now

Steve says:

right

Steve says:

finished with you

[Meenzer 15737]

I always love it when Stevie posts his MSN conversations.

 

Besides, Newcastle's figure of 19.53% isn't exactly anything to write home about.

[sammynb 3517]

I always love it when Stevie posts his MSN conversations.

 

This says it all!

 

Steve says:

fuck off

Steve says:

fuck off

Stevie says:

so i wouldnt say you live in a shithole

Steve says:

you know fuck all

Stevie says:

you know fuck all

Steve says:

take that comment back

Stevie says:

fuckin blinded rose tinted glasses cunt

Stevie says:

no fuck off

Stevie says:

thats the finish now

Steve says:

right

Steve says:

finished with you

[snakehips 0]

To me, to you. To me, to you.

 

Has anyone got the mental strength to actually read all of that ???

[Holden McGroin 6785]

To me, to you. To me, to you.

 

Has anyone got the mental strength to actually read all of that ???

 

I stopped 1/2 way down.

 

Stevie has to be the most narrow minded person EVER.

[JawD 99]

I thought he was talking to himself till I looked closer

[Guest alex]

Having a pop at an area slightly worse off than Tyneside seems a bit rich to me.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

I stopped about half way down, but I think I got the gist.

 

Still blaming all their woes on Thatcher seems a bit weak.

[catmag 337]

To me, to you. To me, to you.

 

Has anyone got the mental strength to actually read all of that ???

 

Fuck no.

[MattM4 0]

The first line "im not having a go, but..." makes it pretty clear what it's all about.

[Park Life 71]

If more people phoned up/msn'd/e mailed people in Liverpool with that kind of 'look in the mirror' agenda, unemployment would be a thing of the past.

[Torres 0]

no wonder torres has so much spare time.

 

I have so much spare time because I`m fuckin loaded! Good to see everybody else paying for our season tickets though ... absolutely hilarious!

[Fop 1]

no wonder torres has so much spare time.

 

I have so much spare time because I`m fuckin loaded! Good to see everybody else paying for our season tickets though ... absolutely hilarious!

 

Your income could be under threat, they are cracking down on benefit scamming now, you can probably only get away with 4 people and 2 dead people living in the same address now, where as 10 and 4 was easy enough before.

[Torres 0]

no wonder torres has so much spare time.

 

I have so much spare time because I`m fuckin loaded! Good to see everybody else paying for our season tickets though ... absolutely hilarious!

 

Your income could be under threat, they are cracking down on benefit scamming now, you can probably only get away with 4 people and 2 dead people living in the same address now, where as 10 and 4 was easy enough before.

 

 

They`re too late ...

[Fop 1]

no wonder torres has so much spare time.

 

I have so much spare time because I`m fuckin loaded! Good to see everybody else paying for our season tickets though ... absolutely hilarious!

 

Your income could be under threat, they are cracking down on benefit scamming now, you can probably only get away with 4 people and 2 dead people living in the same address now, where as 10 and 4 was easy enough before.

 

 

They`re too late ...

 

They'll track you down, you'll be back to mugging 16 year olds in the USA.

[Torres 0]

no wonder torres has so much spare time.

 

I have so much spare time because I`m fuckin loaded! Good to see everybody else paying for our season tickets though ... absolutely hilarious!

 

Your income could be under threat, they are cracking down on benefit scamming now, you can probably only get away with 4 people and 2 dead people living in the same address now, where as 10 and 4 was easy enough before.

 

 

They`re too late ...

 

They'll track you down, you'll be back to mugging 16 year olds in the USA.

 

 

 

I only mug adults ... no money in kids.

 

But anyway, they`re far too late.

[Fop 1]

no wonder torres has so much spare time.

 

I have so much spare time because I`m fuckin loaded! Good to see everybody else paying for our season tickets though ... absolutely hilarious!

 

Your income could be under threat, they are cracking down on benefit scamming now, you can probably only get away with 4 people and 2 dead people living in the same address now, where as 10 and 4 was easy enough before.

 

 

They`re too late ...

 

They'll track you down, you'll be back to mugging 16 year olds in the USA.

 

 

 

I only mug adults ... no money in kids.

 

But anyway, they`re far too late.

 

You're probably right, I guess they don't get their hand on the benefits till they are a bit older.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

no wonder torres has so much spare time.

 

I have so much spare time because I`m fuckin loaded! Good to see everybody else paying for our season tickets though ... absolutely hilarious!

Torres on the left.