If you can't beat them, join them.

[Fop 1]

Muslim convert 'recruits' inmates

By Sally Chidzoy

BBC East Home Affairs Correspondent

 

Whitemoor Prison has a high number of Muslim inmates

 

A former British National Party activist who converted to Islam in prison is trying to radicalise young prisoners, the BBC can reveal.

 

Inmate Stephen Jones is being held in a segregation unit at Whitemoor Prison, Cambridgeshire, the BBC has been told.

 

Jones was put there after being suspected of recruiting for groups allied to al-Qaeda.

 

The case has raised concerns that some radical Muslims are using prisons as a recruiting ground.

 

The BBC has been told that Jones has been held in segregation at Whitemoor for about three weeks with two other Muslim prisoners.

 

Sources have told the BBC he was caught attempting to radicalise a number of fellow inmates after he himself converted to Islam.

 

'Potential threat'

 

The BBC understands that intelligence sources believe that he is being paid by an al-Qaeda-influenced group.

 

It is thought to be the first time that an inmate has been punished by being held in segregation for activities of this kind.

 

When Whitemoor Prison opened in 1992, 14% of its prisoners were Muslim, now the figure is about 30%, the BBC has learnt.

 

Steve Gough, vice-chairman of the Prison Officers Association (POA), said the organisation had been worried about the situation for a number of years.

 

"This shows what we've been saying. If you can get someone that's so right wing converted then a normal prisoner is going to have absolutely no chance," he said.

 

"Those people come inside and they're dealt with as normal prisoners, kept on normal locations and they can radicalise."

 

The POA believes extremist Muslim prisoners should be kept apart from mainstream inmates who are often vulnerable to exploitation.

 

Youth worker Sulaiyman Matthews, an orthodox Muslim who is working against extremism, said he had talked to prisoners on their release and many of them were angry and had been radicalised.

 

Mr Matthews said the British public needed to know the "potential threat".

 

The government said it was working to improve its awareness and understanding of extremism and radicalisation to maximise public protection.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambrid...ire/7464736.stm

[Kid Dynamite 7335]

Just proves that BNP members are loners happy to be in a gang. Doesnt matter what gang it is as long as it gives them something to fill their boring little lives.

 

I grew up with a lad who was very racist. Always banging on about people taking our jobs blah blah blah. His arguments usually fell to bits 20 seconds after you challenged them but either way he lives with an asian girl now. The strength of his convictions were obvioucly not all that!!! Prat!

[Fop 1]

It's all about hate, hate in what "cause" is pretty unimportant.

 

Jihad embraces and encourages hate like nothing else in the modern world, what's more it's the only "acceptable" form of mindless prejudiced hate left.

 

 

 

Faisal likes hatred. He hates unbelievers and assumes they hate Islam. He says hatred is a human instinct.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7465201.stm

[acrossthepond 901]

It's all about hate, hate in what "cause" is pretty unimportant.

 

Jihad embraces and encourages hate like nothing else in the modern world, what's more it's the only "acceptable" form of mindless prejudiced hate left.

 

 

 

Faisal likes hatred. He hates unbelievers and assumes they hate Islam. He says hatred is a human instinct.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7465201.stm

 

Fop man, when it comes to Islam you don't half talk shite.

 

When are you going to realize there's no such thing as this nebulous "jihad" you're talking about? There's a few loons who prey on the weak-minded in every culture and every society. People like them have always existed, and although the most recognizable may be operating under the name of Islam at this point in time, there's quite a few in Europe who fly the banner of insular national identity...which is really exactly like Islamist extremism without the religious rhetoric. Enoch Powell, anyone?

 

Yes, the threat from groups such as al-Qaida is real. But notions that the Muslims are coming into our prisons and "radicalizing" the inmates, recruiting them to be soldiers of "jihad" is a ridiculous bogeyman and a grown man should no more believe it than he believes monsters are under the bed.

[Fop 1]

It's all about hate, hate in what "cause" is pretty unimportant.

 

Jihad embraces and encourages hate like nothing else in the modern world, what's more it's the only "acceptable" form of mindless prejudiced hate left.

 

 

 

Faisal likes hatred. He hates unbelievers and assumes they hate Islam. He says hatred is a human instinct.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7465201.stm

 

Fop man, when it comes to Islam you don't half talk shite.

 

When are you going to realize there's no such thing as this nebulous "jihad" you're talking about? There's a few loons who prey on the weak-minded in every culture and every society. People like them have always existed, and although the most recognizable may be operating under the name of Islam at this point in time, there's quite a few in Europe who fly the banner of insular national identity...which is really exactly like Islamist extremism without the religious rhetoric. Enoch Powell, anyone?

 

Yes, the threat from groups such as al-Qaida is real. But notions that the Muslims are coming into our prisons and "radicalizing" the inmates, recruiting them to be soldiers of "jihad" is a ridiculous bogeyman and a grown man should no more believe it than he believes monsters are under the bed.

 

Er..... you're talking and trying to pretend I'm saying things I'm not - bit like those people you mention in fact.

 

If you'd actually READ the thread you'd realise the fella in question was ex-BNP, which is (again) what you're trying to talk about.

 

As I said hate is hate and seemingly stupidity is also stupidity.

Edited June 21, 2008 by Fop